Buggy result : Writer or software problem?

[Kim Jespersen]

I really hope someone out there can help me.

I have a playback problem with my rips. the playback stalls several times and then variously :
1. Jumps playback to another scene or
2. Reengage playback after 1-5 seconds.

It can do this 1-2 times pr. disc or multiple times pr. disc (Sometimes every 10 minutes)

I use DVDShrink 3.1.2, BHA recorder gold5 and CopytoDVD 2.4.17.

My writer is a LG GSA-4040B with firmware upgrade to A302.

What I do know :
My rips to HD seems to be fine. When I playback from HD there doesn't seem to be a problem, so I really think the problem comes with the writing.

I have burned +RW media's with no problem at all, this is why it is odd to me that it makes problems on my -R and +R media. (It makes no difference using other media, I have tried)

When I use BHA recorder I am able to watch a counter (Sectors) while burning and it counts fx. from 600 to 1200, then stalls for ½ a sec and then continues for the next 600 and does the same again until the disc is done.
Maybe this could be the reason and in that case my drive must be defect?

I hope someone can help.

[indolikaa]

Actually, it sounds like poor media rather than a burner or software problem.

When your discs are done burning in B's, do you get a window telling you there were Transmission Speed errors?

[Kim Jespersen]

About the media : It is funny if that should be the problem 'cause I have used both + and - media. I used Princo -R the last time and a friend has no problem using those. Some media is worse of than others I know, but the fact that I get no (none whatsoever) errors with +RW is to strange for me.
I'm about to blame it on the fireware because it happens with +/-R, so I'll try to downgrade the A302 to 301.

About error messages : I get none. The disc are recorded perfectly.

[Kim Jespersen]

I should say that I often get a playback message in my Sony Standalone player, saying the disc is dirty and then I have no playback at all

[indolikaa]

You wouldn't happen to be getting a C:13:00-type message, would you?

[Kim Jespersen]

I've get that on 3 discs

[indolikaa]

It could be your DVD player. Sony has had some issues with this error code, and there's a large community of Sony owners who believe this is the result of a defective product.

What model number is your Sony DVD player?

[Kim Jespersen]

This is maybe the best news I have gotten in a looooong time

My player is the DVP-NS410 and I've actually tried to get a firmware update for the model because I can play most of the discs without a problem in my computer drives.

But still I have reservations because the widescreen picture enlarges on my Philips DVDR880 during playback of the same error discs. The picture becomes a split between widescreen and pan/scan, a lot like zooming in.

[indolikaa]

Read www.benmorris.net/dvd and enjoy his experiences with the dreaded C:13:00 error.

And then check out that ridiculously low-priced Norcent/Cyberhome/Apex unit at Wal-Mart. It doesn't matter what you get, it's the best $29 you can spend. At least when it fails you won't feel too emotional about it.

.indolikaa.
Apex AD-1100W
Still Going...

[Kim Jespersen]

Thank u so much, I'll try that

[jamerican]

Read www.benmorris.net/dvd and enjoy his experiences with the dreaded C:13:00 error.

And then check out that ridiculously low-priced Norcent/Cyberhome/Apex unit at Wal-Mart. It doesn't matter what you get, it's the best $29 you can spend. At least when it fails you won't feel too emotional about it.

.indolikaa.
Apex AD-1100W
Still Going...

I get that same error on a Sony combo Player/Receiver, but only with DVD-R's recorded on a LiteOn 811S. Discs recorded on a Pioneer 106D play flawlessly. Very strange.

[Jemboy]

First Princo DVDs really sukxxx. DVD/CDs are cut from a plate. The knives to do this are very expensive. Princo seems to cut double the amount good brands do with the knives. After that I have heard the knifes are refurbished used again or sold to other "cheaper" brands.

When the knives are (becoming) blunt the outer edge of the DVD is strained and eventually at the end, if the knives get really blunt even the hole DVD is strained. This straining makes the DVDs BAD!

If only you knew witch DVDs were from the "first" batches, you could alway buy top Princo's at a bargain, but there isn't a way to just recognize them at the shop.
Hence, that's why some people say they love Princo's and others just hate them!

----- enough Princo bashing ------

I use -- DVDSpeed -- from http://www.cdspeed2000.com/ to test my DVD's in a fast way. When the read and rpm curves are smooth it means that my DVD-rom has no problem reading the DVD.

If there are a lot of spikes in the curves, than those spikes are the problem areas on this particulary DVD. This is often at the end of the DVD or where someone has smuge it with his/her fingers.

When having large spikes, my standalone player often freeze or skips when at it reaches the bad areas.

I have found that burning a good DVD (spikeless), depends on:
1. the burner and the (latest) firmware
2. the quality of the DVDs
3. speed (a lower speed in generalburns better)

Try diffrent brand at diffrent speeds and just test them with DVDspeed to see the quality combination of the burner and DVD. Or test the working ones and see what's the diffirent with the non-working DVDs.

I hope this helps you out.

CU, Jem.

[indolikaa]

First Princo DVDs really sukxxx. DVD/CDs are cut from a plate. The knives to do this are very expensive. Princo seems to cut double the amount good brands do with the knives. After that I have heard the knifes are refurbished used again or sold to other "cheaper" brands.

When the knives are (becoming) blunt the outer edge of the DVD is strained and eventually at the end, if the knives get really blunt even the hole DVD is strained. This straining makes the DVDs BAD!

If only you knew witch DVDs were from the "first" batches, you could alway buy top Princo's at a bargain, but there isn't a way to just recognize them at the shop.
Hence, that's why some people say they love Princo's and others just hate them!

No disrespect, but where the hell did you hear that?!

[Jemboy]

No disrespect, but where the hell did you hear that?!

A few months ago I was having quite some trouble with Princo media. I decided to search the Internet on Princo problems and found a few referals to this story. I haven't checked it out with the Princo company, but it seems reasonable enough because from experience often the outer edge of CDs or DVDs are burnded unreadable!

[pippocalo]

I have a Pioneer 106 and I did had problems with Princo DVD-R 4x media.

Normally over the half of burned DVD starts with some littles hangs (of video only) and at the end of DVD hangs totally (video and audio) the DVD player.

But this happens only on one of my DVD player; on the other the media works without any problems.

So I suppose that Princo media are not really defective (otherway no player will be able to read it) but little more difficult to read; so some players reads it and some not.

I did tried also DVD+R ricoh (brand fron Fuji, TDK and other; many many today's DVD+R are from ricoh) and i did had not problems in any player that I did found.

Princo have not a good reputations in DVD e CD and what happens also to me confirm that; but this don't mean that all people will have problem with Princo; means only that the risult is not sure.

Bye

[otokoyama]

Try changing the software. Try using Nero, Discjuggler, or some other stuff. You can get trial versions of those. Also, buy a really good brand of DVD-RW (such as Pioneer) to test this all out. That way, you won't keep wasting discs. I personally have had never had any problems with Princos and I must have burned like a 100 discs.

[instigator_008]

Try changing the software. Try using Nero, Discjuggler, or some other stuff. You can get trial versions of those. Also, buy a really good brand of DVD-RW (such as Pioneer) to test this all out. That way, you won't keep wasting discs. I personally have had never had any problems with Princos and I must have burned like a 100 discs.

Princo is known shite. Do yourself a favour and check out the Media section on the left.

I'd go with Maxell, Ritek, TDK, Apple or Fuji (Taiyo Yuden).

[Dr. Swirl]

BHA software came bundled with a burner I got. It didn't work that well for me. It dropped frames on videos and left peculiar "skips" when I burned audio CDs. I uninstalled it and went to Nero and RecordNow. It works much better, now.

[DTSL06]

I have mixed results with all Princo discs. I used their -R 4x white tops in a Pioneer A05. The A05 is very tollerant of mediocre media and is compatible with a lot of questionalble ones. Using the Princo's I get about 3/5 ratio of perfect burens to coasters. Usally the outer edge (end of recordings) would be screwed up. LordSmurf has a good writeup on how discs are manufacture and its a good read. I use nothing but Memorex ( RICOHJPNR01) +R 4x on the Plex 708a burner at 6-8x and only had ~5 coasters outa 200+ burns. The 5 were either a keyboard chair interface problem and/or some hiccups with Nero, firmware and/or USB cases .