:?: Video Transfer doesn't fit on DVD

[raptor]

Hello Everybody,

I am trying to convert some VHS tapes to DVD. I’ve been using the guides found on this site, but it has still been a long, hard frustrating few months I’ve been trying to do this. Today I read the thread advising someone to use a stand-alone recorder. I think I’d like more control over my menu’s, and stand-alones are priced out of my budget here in Canada still. Also two years ago when I built my current computer system, I had video making in mind, and I want to get my money’s worth out of the system. Over the holidays I thought I had finally accomplished everything and was ready to burn my first transfer, but I hit a snag.

I used ATI MMC 8.8 to capture the tape, employing the DVD High map present. I had tried HuffyUV and MJPEG, but I was dropping frames like crazy. The DVD High setting was satisfactory. Then I used Ulead DVD Movie Factory 2 to create some beautiful menu’s. When I hit output to start the burn from Movie Factory I got an error saying there was not enough room on the disc.

The video is 1 hour 39 minutes long.
The captured mpeg file shows 4,611,910 KB. If I do properties on it, it shows:
4.39 GB (4,722,595,840 bytes).

Movie Factory says ‘Required/Available disc space: 4.5 GB/ 4.4 GB.


I burning to a 4.7 GB disc. Can someone please tell me where I went wrong? How can I correct it? I would have thought I could fit several VHS tapes onto one DVD.

Thank you in Advance for your Advice,
Raptor.

[FulciLives]

A DVD only holds approximately 4.38GB not 4.7GB

Same thing as computer HDD drives. They always format smaller than what is advertisec. My 80GB HDD when formatted is only 76.3GB

So in the future you want to shoot for 4.38GB or approximately 4400MB although when I encode I always use 4300MB as a shooting point because obviously it is better to underestimate than to overestimate and NOT be able to fit it.

For now with this file your best bet (so as not to start over) would be to author it to a VIDEO_TS folder than use DVDShrink to compress/transcode it down to around 4400MB

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[raptor]

Thank you for your answer FulciLives. Can you or someone please tell me how to author it to a video TS folder? Will I lose the menus I created?

Thanks again,
Raptor

[raptor]

Sorry, one more question...Why is the file so big? Did I do something wrong capturing it? I mean shouldn't I be able to fit more than two hours on a DVD? The video I have is only 1 hour 39 minutes.

Thanks,
Raptor

[billbath]

Use dvd shrink- free to get it to size

You will not lose anything.

Just because the movie, video or whatever is 2 hours does not mean it will fit on a two hour dvd as is. The file size is dependent on many things. So if you can compress the file to fit the disk, it will be whatever time length it originally was. Quality is another issue.

[FOO]

The final output step in MF2 has a choice as to where and how to
put the output. Tell it DVD Folders , and then Shrink it some.

You can edit the MMC capture presets to change the capture bitrate.
I use 352 x 480 at 4000kbits/sec. This just about guarantees I can
fit 95% of movies on a DVD without thinking at all.

[bugster]

The file size is dependent on many things.

That seems to be a common misconception. Actually file size of an mpeg is dependant on two things only. They are bitrate and playing time. Nothing else matters.