I can't read any brand of DVD after it's been burned.

[David9799]

I've tried to burn a data DVD on Verbatim DVD+RW / DVD+R data life plus and Memorex DVD+RW they always burn right but whenever i try to read the disc it wont read i always get a error about a sector.

My DVD burner is a Plextor and a Sony DRU-510A i use Nero to burn them. I have the same trouble with Movies i burned at spots it wont play.
I have tried different DVD disc same thing happens.

Is the problem Nero? Any suggestions?

[overloaded_ide]

Try some other program to burn with and see if it has the same problem.

That's a wierd one, different brands of disks, different burners, all with the same problem? Narrow down the one thing they all have in common and that's possably the problem.

[Poppa_Meth]

use image tools classic to make an ISO of the disk and use DVD Decryptor to burn it. that'll determine if its nero causing the problem or not.

[wulf109]

What version of Nero are you using and what template are you using for the burning??

[David9799]

I'm using Nero 6.23..Template? What i do is use nero express and put the files in the video_ folder and then burn.

The movies will play fine on a Apex DVD Player but on my compuer towards the end they hang up or if i use DVD decrypter to put the movie back on my computer at the end the read speed will drop down to 0.1 at the beginning it's at 2.5 or 3.0.

These are home movies by the way. I'm ready to go back to VHS!

Thanks for the help.

[pharlap]

what aspi level does nero report with infotool

[MysticE]

Why don't you run one or the problem discs thru Nero CD/DVD Speed and run a transfer test. It should like this:



As opposed to a bad one which shows many read problems like this:



If they look bad try a burn with burnatonce (free) and test again.
http://www.burnatonce.com/

[David9799]

This one was burned with Nero 6.28


This one was burned with Sonic record now Dx



Bad DVD right? If that's what it is most all the DVD's i buy are no good? The ones i used are brand new the above test was done on a Verbatim Data Life Plus DVD+RW i got it from buy.com

I'll run Nero CD/DVD speed on the others to see if they are any good. It takes forever!

If the CD/DVD is good the lines should not drop right?

[David9799]

What i don't understand is if the DVD is bad why didn't i get any errors when it was burned? Sonic even verified the disk after it was burned.

[David9799]

Heres another try on a different Verbatim DVD



Any suggestions? All of these have been data DVD's

What does the yellow line and green line mean by the way?

[David9799]

Verbatim DVD+R Has a home movie on it.





Plays fine though on computer and DVD player

[MysticE]

Never saw a burned disk look like that. Are you doing the 'Tranfer Rate' test (sure looks like it)?. If I pop a blank in it resembles that (where it starts tells you the speed it will burn at, don't have to finish the test).

Basically your drive starts out reading at 4X (like mine), but then appears to be having major problems reading your burn. On mine you see that it starts picking up read speed (CAV) till at the end it's at about 9X. Yours not only drops in speed (trying real hard to read the disc), but can't even make it the very end. I'm confused. The 'bad' chart I showed at least made it to the end with a few dips along the way. Maybe Nero Speed isn't working right, you can get a fresh copy here:
http://www.cdspeed2000.com/
Those results you posted show that something is drastically wrong. You said the last one played in your standalone? You should have something that resembles mine to have any kind of playing compatability. Have you updated the firmware on your burners?

[David9799]

Yes i'm using the lastest firmware. I don't know whats going this is from the software cd that came with the DVD Burner.

[MysticE]

Well that one looks much better (normal). I would suggest you try to burn a -R, but it seems there is a problem with your drive, at least with the discs you tried to burn.

[David9799]

Is that Nero tool very accurate? The disc below will play on my computer and on a Apex dvd player with no trouble. It has a home movie on it. The other disc where data. Could it be the data? To many folders? Nothing is running in the background i have no screen saver. I have a 1 GB of Ram and a P4 at 2.8. The Plextor drive i have does the same thing.

Even Sony DVD+R disc do it.

[defense]

Never saw a burned disk look like that. Are you doing the 'Tranfer Rate' test (sure looks like it)?. If I pop a blank in it resembles that (where it starts tells you the speed it will burn at, don't have to finish the test).

Basically your drive starts out reading at 4X (like mine), but then appears to be having major problems reading your burn. On mine you see that it starts picking up read speed (CAV) till at the end it's at about 9X. Yours not only drops in speed (trying real hard to read the disc), but can't even make it the very end. I'm confused. The 'bad' chart I showed at least made it to the end with a few dips along the way. Maybe Nero Speed isn't working right, you can get a fresh copy here:
http://www.cdspeed2000.com/
Those results you posted show that something is drastically wrong. You said the last one played in your standalone? You should have something that resembles mine to have any kind of playing compatability. Have you updated the firmware on your burners?

Gee mysticE, you've never seen a disk look like that..that's odd....you make it seem like you've seen it all. Well..low and behold..i've seen PLENTY of disks look like that...so let me explain to the original poster what they're problem is since you continued to want to B.S them.

First, their "FIRSTread speed results NEVER read or started out @4x. Where the hell did you even get that from MysticE? The graph CLEARLY SHOWS the read starts out at 2x and remains constant....a pretty clear indicator that they are probably using NEROCDSPEED on their WRITER which has a max rip speed which is usually pretty low. Either that or they are using NEROCDSPEED on a DVD-ROM that doesn't rip tremendously fast. NEROCDSPEED can't show a steady increase to 8x if the drive doesn't rip at 8x MYSTICE...come on..you should know that.

I loved how you said there was something "DRASTICALLY" wrong with the first graph....LMAO....the guys WRITER/ROM rips slow and there's something "DRASTICALLY" wrong....keep em' comin'.

[MysticE]

Well defense, I guess you sure showed me. Except for his one DVD+R disc they all started at about 4X (one started higher).

First, their "FIRSTread speed results NEVER read or started out @4x. Where the hell did you even get that from MysticE? The graph CLEARLY SHOWS the read starts out at 2x and remains constant....a pretty clear indicator that they are probably using NEROCDSPEED on their WRITER which has a max rip speed which is usually pretty low. Either that or they are using NEROCDSPEED on a DVD-ROM that doesn't rip tremendously fast. NEROCDSPEED can't show a steady increase to 8x if the drive doesn't rip at 8x MYSTICE...come on..you should know that.

His chart shows what he's using a DRU 510. His Sony is a 12X CAV reader. What does ripping and all your other mumbo jumbo explanations have to do with a read/tansfer rate test? Nothing. The first chart I posted came from a similiar burner with a 12X CAV reader (LG4040b). His results should be similiar, your 'ripping' comment is completely irrelevant to the problem at hand (to which you have contributed nothing except for scenarios which do not apply).

Once again (except for the prerecorded one which read normally) his charts show discs that have major problems being read, and some can't even complete the test in some instances, drastic problems as evidenced by his inabilty to produce readable discs. It could just be a disc/burner mismatch, but he says he has tried a few brands.

You sir should add MORON to your sig.

[defense]

@MysticE...you are one brainless idiot. First, I have the SONY DRU-510A....and it DOES NOT READ AT 12x. And in order to have it read faster then 2x you need the DSS UTILITY in OVERDRIVE mode. Does his chart show that? The DRU-510A WILL NOT read burned media or dual layer media past 4x "USUALLY"..EVEN WITH THE DSS UTILITY. But of course you'd know that too...lmao.

IN addition..they also said they had the "PLEXTOR"..so they have TWO BURNERS...obviously BOTH aren't likely to be defective.

It's one thing to be brainless..but it's another to not be able to comprehend basic sentences. I didn't say anything about "ripping" ignoramus. I said your comment regarding their chart was completely inaccurate..just like the majority of the posts i've read from you. I have no clue where you get the crap you come with....especially on the media post I already responded to where your head was so far up your ass...I guess the only thing you could do was eat shit.

I'll explain this post again in 5th grade terms...hopefully that won't be too advanced for you. I never said anything about "ripping" specifically......I said "reading"...and gave a very "OBVIOUS" relation. You obviously can't put the two together because you have no clue what the hell you're talking about. You said you've never seen any graph like that and something was "DRASTICALLY" wrong.

I explained the reason their graph was at a constant level was because it was obvious their ripper OR writer can't rip past a certain speed. If they did use the DRU-510A for all tests, then i've explained the situation already.

NERO CD SPEED reads a disk at a gradually increasing speed....it will have peaks and pits. Regardless of how bad media is burned..as long as it's 100% readable...Nero CD SPEED will get to around 6x minimal...and usually more like 8-9x.

Those speeds go hand in hand with ripping speeds. It's obvious for anyone but someone as braindead as you....that the reason David9799 had that graph which was almost a paralell 4x was because their ripper/writer could NOT read any faster. Ripping is also reading ignoramus...you with me so far? That's why it was a horizontal line as opposed to a "peak/pit" type graph. IF they had a DVD-ROM that was capable of ripping at higher speeds then NERO CD SPEED would of read their disk at higher speeds and there would either be A) more Peaks...or B) more pits....but there was niether because the drive he used for the test was incapable of RIPPING/READING, OR should I say... OR FOR NERO CD SPEED TESTS.

I hope you're able to comprehend the very basic 5th grade post MysticE....you probably confused poor ole David with your bogus B.S. Hopefully they'll read this post and see they have nothing to worry about, and the only "DRASTIC" thing was your joke of a B.S post.

[MysticE]

defense (or should I call you Playa ) you are such an ass. His drive is clearly capable of higher, CAV read speeds as is shown by this chart he posted.



I can't imagine the wealth of misinformation your 2000+ posts have spread. Time to get a life. Sell the blowup doll and get a real woman.

Good bye lil' Playa (how cute!).

You are in breach of the forum rules and are being issued with a formal warning.
/ Moderator Baldrick

[defense]

MysticE...do you read...boy you are braindead. I didn't SAY the DRU-510A COULDN'T READ at 8x. Learn to read....I think i've already called you out..so your B.S posts won't be taken seriously.

If you had the slightest ability to read, you'd see that I said the DRU-510A "USUALLY"..won't read dual layer or BURNED media past 4x....I have gotten it to 7x at times..but I use my LITE-ON to rip. But "USUALLY" is the key word there..again....learn to read.

Read my post ignoramus....lmao...it's hard to believe you can be this stupid. I'll say it again...I NEVER SAID THE DRU-510A could NOT read @8x INGORAMUS...I said it was CLEAR THAT ON THEIR FIRST GRAPH it couldn't READ PAST 2X...you know the graph you said clearly starts out @4X.

You are making yourself sound DUMB AND DUMBERERERER with each post...lmao.....again, in 5TH GRADE TERMS...what I said was that ON THAT GRAPH that has the horizontal 4x line...it was CLEAR THEY COULD "NOT" read past 4x. AGAIN, that is WHY the graph was somewhat paralell and 2x CAPPED.......NOT BECAUSE OF SOMETHING "DRASTIC."

ONE MORE TIME handyman.......they had a paralell graph because on that specific chart, the disk could NOT BE READ AT MORE THEN 2x!

Now that question is....on the last chart did they download and enable the DSS UTILITY....PROBABALY...or they probably didn't have it enabled on the first read. That's common sense to ANYONE except you...at least with the info i've already supplied regarding DSS. ... lol.

WITHOUT DSS executed the DRU-510A IS "LOCKED" @2x...just like the first graph...no..it's NOTHING DRASTIC...just that DSS wasn't enabled.

Of course, you don't know DSS FROM SOS..your posts clearly exhibit that.

Because it's damn sure not "DRASTIC" because the DRU-510A read that disk at a constant 2x probably because DSS wasn't enabled. "DRASTIC"....LMAO.

Nothing you've said has proved anything i've said incorrect...but everything i've said shows you to be a complete ignoramus. I hope you've learned your lesson....two things...first...LEARN TO READ...and second....make sure you have a SLIGHT clue before you start posting all your total B.S.

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[Baldrick]