DVD2One output too big?

[PaulStation]

I have authored a DVD that is around 12Gb in size- it's big, I know- but as it's a cartoon with very flat colours it would be possible to get it to a decent size and it to still look alright. The problem is, whenever I use DVD2One and the 1 DVD-R template, it always ends up at around 5Gb- a problem I've never had before. This is obviously too big for a DVD-R, but no matter what size I set it to its always this size.

However, if I then re-encode this 5Gb template (which looks fantastic- almost as good as the 12Gb template believe it or not) with DVD2One again it comes out the correct size- but as its been compressed twice it looks very poor in some places. Is there a reason why DVD2One won't get it to the correct size in the first place? I have also tried DVDShrink but to no avail- even that won't get it to the correct size...

Also, can somebody please tell me the EXACT size of the 1 DVD-R template on DVD2One- as I accidentally deleted it and I'm now using 4400Mb

Thanks!

[edguy]

the default size in dvd2one is 4472MB...

about the other problem, a guess would be that the size difference is too big? 12GB -> 4,3GB...

have you tried to set it lower? and are you using the latest version? earlier versions i've seen problems.. but mostly the result was alot smaller.. like 3,9GB... also in the latest version there's a "constant ratio" mode... i would suspect that helps with the precision of the target size...

[PaulStation]

the default size in dvd2one is 4472MB...

about the other problem, a guess would be that the size difference is too big? 12GB -> 4,3GB...

have you tried to set it lower? and are you using the latest version? earlier versions i've seen problems.. but mostly the result was alot smaller.. like 3,9GB... also in the latest version there's a "constant ratio" mode... i would suspect that helps with the precision of the target size...

Cheers for the speedy reply!

I'm using the newsest version of DVD2One and I've just started it with the constant setting- but for some reason it's taking a lot longer than normal (about 80 minutes), is it supposed to take this long?

The lowest I've actually set it to is 4000Mb, which gave the same results (4.98Gb)- though I could possibly try something dramatically lower once this has finished... I'll let you know!

Another thing that I should mention is that I opened the originally authored DVD with DVDShrink 3.0 beta5 and it came up with an error: "VOB reading error" or something. Using DVDShrink 2.3 it was fine though... It also came up with an error using the trial version of Pinnacle Instant Copy. I used TMPGEnc DVD Author to make the disc, and I haven't had any problems with it before.

[edguy]

constant ratio takes about twice the time on my system... ~40 minutes for a normal 7-8GB DVD... variable takes about 15-20... so i guess it's normal

the constant ratio usually gets better overall results on longer movies also..

DVD Shrink and Pinnacle IC can be alittle picky on some DVD's... i usually use IC for most movies, if it doesn't work for some reason, i just use DVD2one in Movie only mode and get done with it... i haven't used TMPG dvd author for any serious work tho...

let me know how it turns out

[wulf109]

DVD2ONE like all DVD compression programs has a limit to it's compression %. 12GB's to 4.37GB's is simply beyond it's compression limit. In my expierence the maximum compression level in DVD2ONE is 55-60%. DVD Shrink about 45-50%.

[PaulStation]

True, 12Gb is even bigger than a dual-layer DVD so it's a tad optimistic to assume DVD2One would be able to compress it in one go. What I ended up doign though, is converting it to about 6Gb in size, and then again to 4.36Gb. Now while I had to compress it twice (and because of that there is quite a lot of compression artefacts), as least I have a working copy- I'm just burning it now!

I tried constant compression and it turned out to be the right size, funnily enough, but it did look awful. I think that because it's a cartoon with flat colours, the still sections didn't have enough compression and the moving section had too little- so they had a lot of macro blocking.

Thanks a lot for all the help!

[Gazorgan]

You are beyond the minimum %. Try 70%, which will take you donw to DVD9 size, then shrink normally. Alternately, kick yousrself for making the source files too big. 3:1 for DVD compression is huge, you would be better off to re-encode to 1/2 D1 resolution.

[Mrdogno8]

I've backed up my LOTR FOTR and Two Towers Extended editions with VOBedit and DVD2One to give very acceptable quality. 'DVD' before shrinking was 11+Gb - just got a message warning that quality may be affected.