I've only updated the drivers and software of my ATi All-in-Wonder Radeon 8500 a few times because it always seems to be a hassle. Even in the best of circumstances, I usually need about 6 very slow reboots (W2K), and have to be careful to fully replace all the little drivers.
But now I need the card to capture to DVD spec mpegs, which required moving up to at least MMC 7.7. So a couple days ago I got the latest set of supported drivers from ATi and MMC 8.7. It was a pain to install as expected, and ever since I moved the launchpad to dock as a collapsed bar at the top or bottom of the screen, launchpad fails to start. The only way I can get it to run is to uninstall all the drivers and software (at least ATi does this in one step now) and re-install. Then launchpad once again seems to run without an error.
On top of that, when using the latest driver set, Catalyst fails to install after reporting a severe "no video driver" error. I have to manually add the driver by itself and re-run the Catalyst install. So - I installed the previous version driver set (which still uses MMC 8.7) and it was a very smooth install. However, the launchpad error persists, so I'm not convinced that I've found the sweetspot yet.
Is this a problem with MMC 8.7? Is there a "best" version of MMC as far as reliability is concerned? Any comments or suggestions?
Thanks,
Tim
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MMC 8.1 runs fine on my system. LordSmurf's website says 8.1 and 8.6 are used successfully on two separate machines he owns. However, I seem to remember reading somewhere that 8.7 is hideously buggy and notorious for causing all sorts of fun problems.
Interesting. I run MMC in Win2000 and never had any slow boot-ups when trying ATI's latest drivers. It took awhile to get all those hardware devices drivered, but the boot-up speeds were fine.... -
Thanks for the tip. I remember reading that Lordsmurf used 8.1 in his guide, and if he's using 8.6 as well I think I'll give that a try.
I don't think my W2K machine boots any slower with the ATi drivers. I think the main reason I complain about the slow reboots is that it takes a lot longer to boot than my XP Pro machine. It really adds up when you're rebooting a number of times to get clean starts. -
WinME, P4 = MMC 8.1
WinXP Pro, Celeron = MMC 8.6
No problems.
Since my drive on the XP system crashed yesterday, I may revert to MMC 8.1 on it, depending on how it takes. That's my chore for the day, buy new HD, redo OS install, new ATI install. Barf.
I didn't like the 8.6 MPEG-1 captures.Want my help? Ask here! (not via PM!)
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There was a bug in the MMC 8.6 MPEG1 captures (wrong aspect ratio), but that was fixed in 8.7.
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It seems as though the problem I was having with installation was in the Catalyst 3.9 bundle. Catalyst 3.8 installed without a hitch. Unfortunately, it will only allow me to have the launchpad in it's default position. Any relocation seems to cause an error which prohibits it from running ever again unless I do a complete uninstall and reinstall
. Uninstalling MMC 8.7 alone doesn't seem to get it back to life when I reinstall.
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Running MMC 8.7 with no problems.
System is P4 3GHz, Win XP Pro, 1Gig RAM, with AIW 8500 DV.
Definitely BIG pain installing upgrades. Only had AIW for a short time so I have only upgraded twice. No experience with versions prior to 8.x -
I'm using MMC 8.7 on my AIW 8500 Radeon with the settings from lordsmurf and get great mpeg2 captures. As for installing drivers and upgrades I had nothing but problems when trying to remove the old ones first. Now I just install over the old ones and haven't had a problem since. I'm not recommending this but it works for me.
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I had 8.5 , went to 8.6 , had dropped frames , and went back to
8.5 (with much trouble )
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