Highest Quality DVD9-DVD5 Program

[tonymx3]

Hello, great forom you guys have here!
Is Pinnacle InstantCopy the highest quality DVD9-DVD5 program out there?

I have a 4-hour long movie on a DVD9 that I want to put on a DVD5 and EVERY SINGLE program that I have used has given me a really poor quality DVD5. I thought that InstantCopy would be different but the result is the same. Should I consider maybe using CCE? I've heard that it performs pretty well.

I'm not concerned about time at all, even if the encoding takes 2 full days I couldn't care less. I'm more concerned about quality. What do you guys recomment?

[MachineMan]

Download and try DVDshrink v3 beta 5. Its free and the quality is good if you use the deep analysis feature.

Do a Re-Author to take out all the menus, extras and Audio formats that you don't want so you have more room for the video.

You will have to do a direct comparison to see which is best program quality for you.

Tools section review: https://www.videohelp.com/tools.php?tool=155#comments

- I RIP complete disc(s) to the hard drive with DVDdecryptor
- Shrink DVD9 to DVD5 with DVDShrink v3
- Burn with Nero Xpress

[BJ_M]

if quality is main concern .. why not just split it to 2 disks ?

[tonymx3]

MachineMan:
Thx for the tip on DVD Shrink, i had tried that program before but wasn't too keen on the quality that it gave me, maybe this new version will be better.

BJ_M:
I can't split it into 2 disks. It has to be on 1 DVD-R
I've tried CloneDVD, DVDShrink, InstantCopy and a few other methods, but i've never been too crazy about the quality.... it always comes out very crappy and wanted to know what the highest quality method of fitting a 7.8gig DVD9 to a 4.3gig DVD5

[obeck]

Hello, great forom you guys have here!
Is Pinnacle InstantCopy the highest quality DVD9-DVD5 program out there?

I have a 4-hour long movie on a DVD9 that I want to put on a DVD5 and EVERY SINGLE program that I have used has given me a really poor quality DVD5. I thought that InstantCopy would be different but the result is the same. Should I consider maybe using CCE? I've heard that it performs pretty well.

I'm not concerned about time at all, even if the encoding takes 2 full days I couldn't care less. I'm more concerned about quality. What do you guys recomment?

A four hour movie on an (almost) two hour dvdr is going to need better than 50% compression. It is going to look crappy compared to the original. Period.

[Skynet107]

The only way you have any hope of getting reasonable quality is to re-encode the video using CCE with at least a 5 pass setting. I did an educational DVD that was 3.5 hours using CCE and it turned out nice even though the bit-rate was about 2.5 mbits/sec average. There were very few artifacts. Any bit rate lower than this will look pretty ugly.

[aglips]

... it always comes out very crappy and wanted to know what the highest quality method of fitting a 7.8gig DVD9 to a 4.3gig DVD5

You can't expect to have good quality if you're gonna be compressing that DVD9 from 7.8gb to 4.3gb. You'll just have to content w/ what you get.

I would also suggest using 2 DVDs if you're concerned with the quality. You didn't explain why you couldn't use 2 DVDs.

[dap]

I successfully backed up Gangs of New York using DVD Shrink v3 b5 to one DVD-R and while you can notice in some cases that it is not the original, overall the quality is very high at least on my 35 inch TV. FYI my wife did not know she was watching a copy until she noticed that we did not have to swap the disk during playback. So, perhaps I’m being too critical.

This was my very first attempt at backing up a DVD and I did a google search and found a couple of guides using LOTR_FOTR as an example.

[tonymx3]

Yeah, i'm starting to think that you guys are right. I cant expect to have a high quality 4 hour long movie on a single DVD-5.

However, I'm going to give CCE a shot and try a 5-pass and see if the results are any better than InstantCopy.

Is there a good guide out there for CCE? I know Robshot has one on doom9. Is the process pretty straightforward? i know CCE does all the encoding but do i need any other programs to author the dvd and to prepare the dvd for CCE to use it?

Thanks guys

[Vejita-sama]

For best quaility spilt to two DVDR discs. If you really want to back it up to a single DVDR disc I would recommend re-encoding with CCE (or TMPGenc). Unless you are really committed to anamorphic discs you might want to re-size to 352x480 and letterbox (if necessary) the video. This will results in a higher bitrate/pixel ratio then trying to keep the video at 720x480.

Go to doom9.org and look up the guides for the big3.

[Faustus]

2 disc split = perfect quality.

Movie only with CCE and DVD2DVDR or DVD2SVCD (as I use) = Next best thing.

[Kovster]

wierd, I have a 42" HDTV, and I've used high compression, and it still looks good on my tv.

[tonymx3]

Alright, so i've narrowed that CCE would be the best thing to use. Would you guys recommend using the Robshot method or the other one on doom9?

[tonymx3]

any ideas boys?

[Adder_78]

any ideas boys?

Use this method:
http://www.mpegit.net/dvdr_opv.php

It's fast and gives you great quality. 8)

(the guide is very old but you can use the same method with latest avisynth version too)

And if you got very long movie but you still want to use only one DVDR then you could do a High quality SVCD rip and burn that to the DVDR:
http://www.mpegit.net/eng_svcd.php

DVDlab is good for SVCD -> DVDR authoring... 8)

[tito13kfm]

my method is to encode to half res dvd compliant mpeg2 files using tmpg. (I used to use CCE but the difference to me in money isn't worth it). at equal frame rates they appear less artifact filled but slightly less sharp than 720x480's. which on my 25" tv look perfectly fine unless u sit 3 feet from the screen.