Ulead Movie Factory 2 odd problem

[Kevin Henry]

Hmm. I've got an odd problem.

I can convert the .avi no problems to mpg ... well, mostly no problems. TMPGENC makes a real hash of doing 25fps to NTSC standard but my SA DVD players will play the PAL fine to NTSC TV.

Anyway ... my real problem is - lotsa skips & 'back tracks' when playing the DVD.

Like, the movie is playing fine then it sorta skips a few frames, back & forward then keeps playing - perfectly in sync.

I'm assuming it's something to do with the MUXing that UMF2 does. The source is 'compliant' SVCD with 48000 224 audio, but it insists on converting & remuxing it.

HOWEVER ... I've just done a test using element streams, & adding 'background' music to the m2v file. WIll that work? Can I do that for say 10 movies on one DVD?

Above method seems faster too

[FOO]

So , You you are converting to PAL MPEG ?
You never said what you are finally using

You problem sounds like wrong field order.
What is the original AVI from , a capture ?

If you drop the original AVI or the MPEG on MF2 and right click for properties
does it say "Field B" or progressive

SVCD format is not a legal DVD format.
It has to be 720 x 576 or 352 x 576 that's why MF2 re-encodes

[Kevin Henry]

Here's what I do :

Downloaded PAL .avi - probably capture
Convert to xSVCD 352x480 25fps with 48000 224 audio with TMPGENC
Add to UMF2, convert to NTSC DVD

So UMF2 is actually re-encoding the video? According to the guide it should ignore the format if you check that box

The original .avi doesnt give a field order, but the converted .mpg is Field B according to UMF2. Also, the converted .mpg plays fine on the PC but it's the SA where it occasionally does the warp back & forward thing.

[FOO]

You can save a lot of time and quality by converting directly to
DVD compliant MPEG2 on your TMPGenc operation.
Just set it to DVD comliant instead of SVCD .
Why would you convert to SVCD and then to DVD, they are different.
MF2 only ignores the format IF it's Correct to start with.

Converting to NTSC is probably why your video Jitters. It's not trivial to
do it right. If your TV plays PAL , just keep it that way. It will be better

Ulead has it backwards so Field B is Top Field which is right

[Kevin Henry]

how do i convert directly to dvd compliant???

the original is only 512x384 ...

[FOO]

I'm sorry. I can't read. You said xSVCD 352 x 480
That is already DVD NTSC compliant. In that case
MF2 shouldn't have to re-encode. Just set the "do not convert" box.

Your jitter problem is probably because TMPGenc didn't convert to
NTSC the best way. The way to do it is to change the framerate
from 25 to 24 and then Telecine it , which makes it 30 fps. Note
that doesnt require a re-encode.
You have to change the audio when you do it like that.

There are guides on how to do that . The good news is that is the
good direction. Going the other way has more problems.

I think all it amounts to is tell TMPGenc to encode your original AVI
as 23.97 fps but set "do not framerate convert" and also set
"pulldown on playback"

[Kevin Henry]

I just tried a direct conversion to NTSC DVD with TMPGENC using the wizard.

It was much smoother than before and a whole lot less hassle

I think the problem with the re-encoding in UMF2 was that the video was 25fps but the project was trying to do NTSC - didnt like the framerates ...

... now the question is - can I use the wizard but save the .tpr so I can batch encode later???

[FOO]

Going in and out of the wizard changes settings.
You can load a Template (MCF) , modify it and save it to a new name.

[Kevin Henry]

Great, thanks for your help Foo!