Hauppauge PVR250 Problems?

[top1percent]

I recently installed a new PVR250 card into my system. Installation went very smooth. I made sure I had all the new software updates as well.

I made my first MPEG2 capture on the DVD Long Play setting for a 30min. TV Show. Where I run into problems is when I try to edit the commercials out. I tried using their nanoedit program, but the edit points were all screwed up. So, I decided to use TMPEG (which I used to use for editing my vcd/svcd quality captures on my avertv card just fine) but had the same problems.

Then, I tried MPEG2cut and had good success with 2 of the three edits. Unfortunately, when I try to play the 2nd edit I don't get any video playback only audio in Windows Media Player. The other two edits play fine.

I've even re-encoded the entire file in TMPEG and then tried to edit and had the same problems.

I've also tried Sagerecorder, but had sync problems.

According to Hauppage I should be able to capture, edit, and burn with their included software, but I haven't accomplished anything but capture successfully. I'm tempted to take the card back and use my old avertv card, but I really wanted the mpeg2 encoding so I thought I'd try here first.

Any help is greatly appreciated,

Brad

[Barnabas]

Don't use the DVD presets for recording, instead, make up your own presets and use "Program". Those files will edit MUCH better. Also, pickup NanoFix. The BEST way to edit without problems is with TMPGenc DVD author.

[Coopervid]

If the file is very big, chop it into several pieces (~1GB) with DVTool (can be found in the Tools section on the left of the DVDRHELP page.
I then cut the commercials out with Cyberlink's PowerVCR II. Works perfect. Their software is crap. Just forget about it. The card is great and recordings are very good. But any postprocessing with their software screws up big time.

Vid

[FOO]

I have tried them all (almost ) and I find
that Womble MPEG2VCR is the best MPEG2 editor.
If there are no pulldown flags in the video ( no IVTC was done )
it edits accurate to the frame and never screws up audio.

Im glad to know that NanoPeg doesn't work. I won't have to check
it out.

I guess I have to try TMPG Author. I doubt it is frame accurate

[Rickyblaze]

I have to agree with Foo, I have a PVR-250 and since using mpeg2vcr I have'nt had any problems what so ever with synch after cuts and it's very easy to use.

Rick

[Brainiac]

I also use Womble MPEG2VCR to edit my MPEG-2 captures. I was having sync problems before and after edits, but solved the problem by setting audio to 48 Khz.

[top1percent]

I forgot to mention that I had made changes last night to the presets per the shspvr forum. Such as, changing from dvd to program and changing the audio to 224. It was after these changes that Windows Media Player and Ulead DVD Factory won't even recognize the file.

I'm d/l the trial version of TMPEG DVD Author now, and will try it in a few minutes.

I've heard great things about Womble, but they don't offer a trial version to see if it works. I don't want to drop $120 on something that might not work. Ex. I was always told that TMPEG was the best, and it worked fine for me on VCD/SVCD's but not on MPEG2. I would be pretty upset if I had spent $1495.00 like they used to want for their software. I noticed now you can get it for $88.00. I wonder why?

Anyway, I'll check Womble's website and see what their return policy is I suppose if TMPEG DVD doesn't work.

As far as custom capture settings, what do you guys use?

Thanks so much for the help!

[top1percent]

My mistake re: Womble. I must have d/l the wrong file. Anyway I sent them an email re: a full-featured trial of their software. We'll see what happens.

As for TMPEG DVD Author, it is almost perfect. Unfortunately, after setting up all my clips and burning the disc, it still won't play the 2nd clip. This is weird because it's there when I look at the preview of the clip, but after I burn it and put it in my dvd player, when it comes to this clip it will skip over it and go to the next one. All the other clips work fine except this one. There must be a problem with the original file at this point of the show, because I've had the same problem with this one particular clip in every editor I've tried. It's strange because it's right in the middle of the original show and the clips before and after it work fine.

Thanks for your help,

Brad

[thayne]

I use SageRecorder and the DVD pre-sets with no problems. I use Womble MPEG2VCR to edit and it workes perfectly. What OS are you using? I would suggest Win 2000 or XP only.

[top1percent]

I'm running WinXP with all the updates on Athlon XP 1600+ with 528mb DDR ram, 2 HD's (one is dedicated for video) both 7200rpm ATA100.

If I can't get this problem solved, I may upgrade to a Athlon XP 2600+ and get an ATI AIW card and just do software MPEG2 encoding. Hopefully It won't come to that. I'm so close with TMPEG DVD Author, it's just missing one clip. The one that has given me problems from the beginning.

[thayne]

I'm running WinXP with all the updates on Athlon XP 1600+ with 528mb DDR ram, 2 HD's (one is dedicated for video) both 7200rpm ATA100.

If I can't get this problem solved, I may upgrade to a Athlon XP 2600+ and get an ATI AIW card and just do software MPEG2 encoding. Hopefully It won't come to that. I'm so close with TMPEG DVD Author, it's just missing one clip. The one that has given me problems from the beginning.

I don't think it's your cpu or hard drive. the pvr-250 has on board harware mpeg-2 encoding and with sagerecorder uses almost zero cpu. I have mine installed in a P3 733 machine running windows 2000 server (it's in my server cause it's running 24/7). Have you installed the absolute latest hauppaug drivers? the drivers on the cd are crap. I have used the standard dvd, extended SVCD and standard CVD, and a custom CVD pre-sets and never had audio sync problems. Are the sync problems there before you edit the commercials or only after? You might also post a question on sagerecorders forum. I had an issue when I first used it and installing the latest drives fixed it.

[handiman876]

i have the pvr-350 so these observations may not apply. i've come to find. for no understandable reason, the nanopeg editor you use must be the hauppage modified version. i tried using the newest editor off the nanocosmos website thinking i was smart. let's just say that everytime i tried to burn the compilation with ulead movie factory it would burn the menu with no clips. when using umf if you get to the menu setup page and the clip square is black and doesn't show a preview it means that clip won't burn to the dvd. at least it wouldn't for me . just a few thoughts and observations. peace out.

[Coopervid]

Forget nano.

Womble is very good but slow. PowerVCR II does a perfect job and is fast.
Don't even try their tools. They are crap! The card is great but the software sucks.

[top1percent]

thayne... The sync problems I had with sage were before I made any edits to the video. I may try it again in the next few days to see if it happens again. I did make sure I had the current drivers from the Hauppauge site. I even used their clear program to delete the old drivers before installing the new ones.



Womble sent me an email with their full-featured trial version so I'll try it out tomorrow. Hopefully this works.

Like I mentioned earlier, I think it may be a problem with my first show capture. The second show I captured last night seems to work okay with TMPEG DVD Author. So it's only the first show.

It's like it lost frames or went out of sync about 13 minutes into the capture and then corrected itself. Because, when I try to edit the second clip right where the commercials end and the show starts again, it won't play correctly. However, if I try the second edit about 15 seconds after the show starts again, it works. It's just this one trouble spot.

Anyway, I'll try womble and see how it works.

Thanks for the help,

Brad

[FOO]

Coopervid
Womble is the fastest thing on the planet. It is however capable of completely
re-encoding a movie. If you change any of the settings it WILL do that
instead of just editing. That's probably why you think it's slow.
For a 2.5 hour movie with 10 commercials cut out it takes less than
5 minutes to run for me. If you think that's slow try TMPGenc

[Coopervid]

FOO,

yes, I haven't used Womble in a long time. Back then doing VCDs and SVCDs where I had to reencode the material. I give it a shot. Thanks a lot for the hint!

Vid

[top1percent]

Allright everyone the good news is in!! Womble worked where all others had failed. I loaded the clips into womble, made my edits, saved the files, and then loaded them into Ulead DVD Factory and burned my disc with no problems whatsoever!

Womble is the hands down winner for MPEG2 editing.

I appreciate everyone's support and recommendations in this crazy editing adventure. I would have never figured it out without you guys.

Thanks again,

Brad

[FOO]

OK now run an IVTC on the video and see if it stiil edits and stays in sync.

[top1percent]

Foo... I'm not sure what an IVTC is. However, I made the edits and burned to disc using Ulead DVD Factory and when I watched the DVD on my cheap Mintek DVD Player everything was in sync and looked perfect.

Like I said earlier Womble is certainly the best editor I've tried, and I've tried most I think.

Brad