The fastest SVCD software encoder

[ejai]

Does anyone know what the fastest SVCD software encoder is?

[adam]

Recently in another thread someone claimed the latest version of Ulead Mediastudio Pro is faster than cce (cinema craft encoder.) I havent tried the latest version yet because all previous versions were terrible in my opinion but if so I suppose that would be the fastest. Other than that cce is definitely the fastest encoder by far and actually produces arguably the highest quality video possible.

[Jeomite]

Just curious, I never tried any other MPEG-2 Encoder other than TMPGEnc, how much faster is Cinema Craft Encoder? An estimate of time difference? And it outputs an even better quality result? So it's faster AND better? Hm.. sounds interesting... =)

[Vejita-sama]

It does appear that Ulead is a little faster than CCE. But CCE produces a better quaility MPEG. There's always a trade off

[septor]

Great program
I just started using it today
And i personally love it

[adam]

Jeomite cce is significantly faster than TMPGenc. I can do 4 pass vbr in cce in about the same time it takes me to do 2 pass vbr in TMPGenc with the highest quality settings. Depending on the hardware cce can literally be twice as fast as TMPGenc.

As far as cce quality versus TMPGenc its very very close. Each program has its benefits over the other and your results depend largely on your source. In my opinion TMPGenc preserves the source's color better and overall appears crisper and more vibrant. CCE on the other hand allows you to achieve an overall higher bitrate since it supports as many passes as you want, although any more than 4 passes is pretty pointless. Also CCE gives you tons more options as far as how your bitrate gets allocated. I think if you really took the time to tweak the bitrate allocation to your specific video then the quality would beat TMPGenc easily, but that takes ALOT of time to configure and its pretty complicated stuff too.

[ejai]

Thanks for the help, by the way Uleads MediaStudio LSX mpeg encoder sucks! Its quality is terrible in comparison to Tmpgenc. I'm gonna check out CCE.

[Jeomite]

I just tried CCE v2.62 SP. And I must say, I am INCREDIBLY impressed with it. On a primary test, it provides great results. I'm didn't do a thorough examination on the quality, but for sure, it's atleast as good as TMPGEnc's quality. And then the encoding time, whew... It took about HALF the time as if I used TMPGEnc. I must say it's an great program, but hard to believe it will be worth that $4,000 price tag!

=)

[homerpez]

$100 would be about right for CCE. Maybe $110 if it had some more options.

It is very very good, but NO software in the world is worth $4,000.

[themamboman]

On my AMD Thunderbird 1.2ghz system, I find that TMPGEnc 12a is faster with it's CQ_VBR encoding than CCE SP's 3-pass VBR.

CCE is terrific at controlling bitrate, so you can get an SVCD onto 2 discs, but it takes so much longer and I've had no end of troubles getting audio and video sync'ed up. Also, I have to disable audio encoding on CCE, else it'll crash (it's version 2.50). Anyway, I've heard that CCE's audio quality isn't very good.

With TMPGEnc, I don't have any of those problems.

Ulead's MediaStudio uses an older version of the LSX encoder. It's quality is poor compared to CCE and TMPGEnc. You might try dropping in the latest lsx dll's into the Ulead folder and see if they are better? I know the standalone LSX encoder (latest version) is much improved over previous ones).



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[kcbronc]

Quick question... What is CQ_VBR? Everything I have seen says to use 2Pass_VBR, Is the quality as good using CQ_VBR? Thanks for the info.

[Jeomite]

CQ_VBR (Constant Quality Variable BitRate) is equivlant to 1-Pass VBR. So 2-Pass VBR would be better than CQ_VBR (aka 1-Pass VBR). =)

themamboman,
You should do a test: TMPGEnc's CQ_VBR vs CCE CQ_VBR (1-Pass VBR), and check those results, instead of comparing TMPGEnc's CQ_VBR vs CCE's 3-Pass VBR. =)


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[Harpreet]

Does anyone have a copy of CCE that supports Pentium II

If you do, could you please send it to me at HSingh@Softhome.net

Thanks.

[kid07]

i hope you know that CCE has a minimum requirement of a PIII.

[pocholin]

LSX-Mpeg encoder 3.5 does it quick and nice, using the best possible quality still does it faster than TCMPENC.

I've got it figured out and it does very good quality.

Alfonso

[Jeomite]

VCDHelp.com just recently put up a comparsion between MPEG-2 Encoders (include the new Nero MPEG-2 Plugin). Seems like LSX doesn't output too much of a high-quality result.

TMPGEnc seems to be the best choice for anyone who doesn't have $4000 to spend on CCE. =P

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(What's TCMPENC? lol)

[magicbrain]

Question, which version of CCE is everyone using? Pro, SB or light.

[The_Flash]

Use Pro v2.50, it accepts .avs files as v2.62 does not.

[kcbronc]

One thing I noticed about 2.50 is that it allows multiple passes when creating MPEG-1 files, but from what I could tell 2.62 only allows for multiple passes on MPEG-2 files.

Please tell me if I have overlooked something because I can get version 2.62 "registered" but I can't seem to get 2.50 "registereed" .

[kcbronc]

Never mind. I just found what I was looking for.

[2pac]

I have LsX v3.5 too. What's the setting for the best quality and still have the fastest encoding?

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On 2001-09-24 12:42:40, pocholin wrote:
LSX-Mpeg encoder 3.5 does it quick and nice, using the best possible quality still does it faster than TCMPENC.

I've got it figured out and it does very good quality.

Alfonso
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[Harpreet]

While asking for a CCE version that supports Pii, I thought there might have been an earlier version that did that. The current versions (on the website) all require Piii minimum.

[strep]

I can't get CCE to take my DV avi capture (from Sony DVMC). Is there any way of getting this to work?
-Thanks

[taco]

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On 2001-09-25 13:41:35, Harpreet wrote:
While asking for a CCE version that supports Pii, I thought there might have been an earlier version that did that. The current versions (on the website) all require Piii minimum.
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There is no version of CCE that supports P2's. You need a Athlon, Celeron2, P3 or P4 to use any version.

[Peter]

CCE is also working on my Duron processor

[teamhawaii]

dang.. where are you folks getting the money to buy this 4000 dollah encoder.. someone tell me the secret.. my goodness

[lrama1]

teamhawaii,
if i have 4000 bucks, i would not spend it buying a software encoder. i'd rather buy the fastest PC i can
find for that much money and use TMPGEnc.

[Peter]

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On 2001-09-27 02:51:59, teamhawaii wrote:
dang.. where are you folks getting the money to buy this 4000 dollah encoder.. someone tell me the secret.. my goodness
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How to tell a secret when you don't have your e-mail address displayed?

[teamhawaii]

i emailed you my email.. mebe you got a tip to help me.

[Peter]

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On 2001-09-30 02:33:27, teamhawaii wrote:
i emailed you my email.. mebe you got a tip to help me.
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I tried several times to mail you back, but every time the mail is coming back with an error.

Check your PM.