6x dvd writers?

[Klingon00]

anyone know if there are going to come out with a 6x or 8x writers? since I see price for 4x dropped like crazy.... I would rather wait for the 6x then get a 4x now.

[tompika]

8xPlextor almost here, Nec, Philips, BenQ coming soon..

[MOVIEGEEK]

..and 8x DVD+R media will be out in Nov. or Dec. according to Ritek.

[Klingon00]

i guess, i will have to wait till nov... thanks...

[tompika]

..and 8x DVD+R media will be out in Nov. or Dec. according to Ritek.

I know a guy who burns 2.4x discs at 4X with success....

[-jsl-]

Quote from Ian@Cdrlabs.com:

OK, here's the deal. I just got off the phone with Howard Wing @ Plextor. The drive will be shipping the last week or August. Not before.

The media. This will make many of you happy. Their new drive will be able to write to select 4x DVD+R media at 8x. I don't have all the details on the technology they're using to do this, but according to Howard, Plextor will have information on this within a week or so. They still needed to finalize the list of media that will be able to do this.

[tompika]

Thank you....

[MOVIEGEEK]

The Plextor is scheduled to be released 9/8(8/9 for those not in N.America).I guess burning at 8x on 4x media is similar to burning 48x on 24x CD-R media.

[tompika]

I guess we'll find out soon....

I told you I knew a guy who wrote 2.4x medias at 4x speed.

[MetaPhaze]

I guess we'll find out soon....

I told you I knew a guy who wrote 2.4x medias at 4x speed.

What drive? What Media? How?

[tompika]

Liteon 401S

RICOHJPNR00

RecordNow MAX 4.5

14 minutes

[handyguy]

8x plextors have been for sale for about a month, already getting cheaper, I think they were at livewarehouse.com

But listen, no 8x media!

Sony has put out a 8x to 12x speed selector software for their 510s recently.

[LisaB]

8x Plextors may have been *selling*, but they haven't been *shipping*, which is what people are talking about here...

take another look at livewarehouse.com

[PhilipL]

Withdrawn

[-jsl-]

It's not unique for Plextor (or DVD+R). Compare with CD burners where 32x CD-RW drives have been available for quite some time but it's still not easy to find any 32x CD-RW media. Media will always be out after burners because no manufacturer want to produce media when there are no burners available and market for them.

It's the same thing with CD-R/RW media when it comes to the stated speed too, only the max speed is stated.

"Never been tested" is not correct. Mitsubishi (and possibly some other manufacturers like Ritek and Taiyo Yuden) have without doubt provided Plextor with test samples of 8x media and it seems like the PX-708A can handle 8x burning on some 4x media too (see my previous post).

[tompika]

Exactly.

With all due respect PhilipL, I've been reading your posts and you seem to be very knowledgeable at DVD stuffs and you helped lots of guys out in DVD+RW questions too.


About the marketing thing:

Yes, DVD+RW has very agressive marketing policy.
But Idon't think DVD+RW is supported by Saddam
while DVD-RW is a member of the Salvtion Army.

Unfortunately it's all about racing for money.



About the speed:

You are right about the speed:
The 8x burning times won't be very much noticeable comparing to the 4x.
But the 16x will make a difference. And jumping from4x to 16x directly...
Step by step isn't it?

They say the 16xDVD+R technology will be out this year.
And pretty much that's the top speed for DVD recordings

[zanos]

It's not unique for Plextor (or DVD+R). Compare with CD burners where 32x CD-RW drives have been available for quite some time but it's still not easy to find any 32x CD-RW media. Media will always be out after burners because no manufacturer want to produce media when there are no burners available and market for them.

It's the same thing with CD-R/RW media when it comes to the stated speed too, only the max speed is stated.

"Never been tested" is not correct. Mitsubishi (and possibly some other manufacturers like Ritek and Taiyo Yuden) have without doubt provided Plextor with test samples of 8x media and it seems like the PX-708A can handle 8x burning on some 4x media too (see my previous post).

That would suck. Wouldn't the speed difference be minimal at best? I've heard a full dvd could be done in 8 minutes at 8x.

[-jsl-]

According to Plextor it will write in "6X-8X: 8.100-10.800KB/s (ZCLV)". For a full DVD the average speed might be about 7x and the write time about 9 minutes.

[sparker]

How about 8x DVD-R drives? Any due out?

[SaSi]

How about 8x DVD-R drives? Any due out?

It has been commented before that -R technology is finding it difficult to go beyond 4x yet. It may take some time. Or they might loose the battle.

[ProfessorX]

What I would be interested in knowing is how reliable 8x media would be. I assume media burnt at that speed would be more prone to error. I've had pretty good luck with 4x DVD+R's but not with 4x DVD-R's. As for 4x DVD-R's, I bought a spindle of Memorex DVD-R's and they were terrible. Almost half of the disc's had errors and the Princo 4x's I tried mostly burned at 2x. It seems that DVD+R burns at 4x more reliably than DVD-R.

[DeleriumMDK]

Memorex DVD-R are not good media, and Princo's wont write at 4X in every burner on EVERY disc.

[nicw]

What I would be interested in knowing is how reliable 8x media would be. I assume media burnt at that speed would be more prone to error. I've had pretty good luck with 4x DVD+R's but not with 4x DVD-R's. As for 4x DVD-R's, I bought a spindle of Memorex DVD-R's and they were terrible. Almost half of the disc's had errors and the Princo 4x's I tried mostly burned at 2x. It seems that DVD+R burns at 4x more reliably than DVD-R.

That is rather a silly statement . What you find on your system is limited to you, your hardware and your media, and expertise. It is not a global finding as you seem to suggest. DVD-R @ 4x is every single bit as reliable as +R @ 4x. I now have six dvd burners and multiple brands of media to test my program all kindly donated by various companies and manufactureres. I find them all very difficult to separate for reliability at 4x burning on any media.

cheers
nicw
author DVDInfoPro

[KDH]

Quote from Ian@Cdrlabs.com:

OK, here's the deal. I just got off the phone with Howard Wing @ Plextor. The drive will be shipping the last week or August. Not before.

The media. This will make many of you happy. Their new drive will be able to write to select 4x DVD+R media at 8x. I don't have all the details on the technology they're using to do this, but according to Howard, Plextor will have information on this within a week or so. They still needed to finalize the list of media that will be able to do this.

Seems to have been confirmed by Plextor here

http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/7799

Any ideas why this is only possible with DVD+R and not DVD-R?

KDH

[ProfessorX]

What I would be interested in knowing is how reliable 8x media would be. I assume media burnt at that speed would be more prone to error. I've had pretty good luck with 4x DVD+R's but not with 4x DVD-R's. As for 4x DVD-R's, I bought a spindle of Memorex DVD-R's and they were terrible. Almost half of the disc's had errors and the Princo 4x's I tried mostly burned at 2x. It seems that DVD+R burns at 4x more reliably than DVD-R.

That is rather a silly statement . What you find on your system is limited to you, your hardware and your media, and expertise. It is not a global finding as you seem to suggest. DVD-R @ 4x is every single bit as reliable as +R @ 4x. I now have six dvd burners and multiple brands of media to test my program all kindly donated by various companies and manufactureres. I find them all very difficult to separate for reliability at 4x burning on any media.

cheers
nicw
author DVDInfoPro

I don't see how that's a silly statement. I'm just stating what me and my friends who also have DVD burners have experienced. I'm sure some brands of 4x DVD-R media will burn at 4x with no problem but I've had some issues with them. I'm a software engineer so my expertise is very good as well as my hardware (AMD 2GHz system with 512MB of RAM). If you look through the DVD media guide and read the reviews, you'll see that 4x DVD-R media burning at only 2x is a very common problem and I don't seem to see that happening with DVD+R.