khypermedia dvd-r sale at office max

[kirpen]

khypermedia 25 pack dvd-r goes on sale 8-24 for 24.99 at officemax

[handyguy]

Any rebates?

I hope they aren't taking our money cause they need it & not paying the rebates.

[macleod]

two comments on this post:

1. I have had mixed success with kypermedia, both in spindles and the ones with the cases

2. Office max is running a SCAM with their rebates in general. They advertise free after rebate, however, both rebates (if you can even find the specific one in those damn booklets) require ORIGINAL UPC codes, so you get screwed.

I purchased a free after rebate kypermedia CD burner, which required 2 rebates. After looking through their scambooklet for the rebate forms, I learned that both required original UPC's. I photocopied all of the information including the add and my receipt and sent them to both. Have yet to receive my rebate from officemax (which they are slow anyway), howevr, kypermedia had my preprinted rejection card mailed to me saying that since I did not have the original UPC code, my rebate cant be honored.

I sincerely hope that no one comes back and says that it was an honest mistake as they have been doing this for some time now on other products (thankfully haven't purchased those). I will NEVER purchase anything from them again. I also plan on fighting k-hypermedia's "decision" to deny my rebate. ps. the burner sucked.

[tompallc]

this media has worked for me 74 out of 75 times. anyone else had this much luck?(x1 and x2).

[defense]

macleod said:two comments on this post:

1. I have had mixed success with kypermedia, both in spindles and the ones with the cases

2. Office max is running a SCAM with their rebates in general. They advertise free after rebate, however, both rebates (if you can even find the specific one in those damn booklets) require ORIGINAL UPC codes, so you get screwed.

I purchased a free after rebate kypermedia CD burner, which required 2 rebates. After looking through their scambooklet for the rebate forms, I learned that both required original UPC's. I photocopied all of the information including the add and my receipt and sent them to both

That scam booklet was funny shit. I just wanna make one comment on this Macleoud..and don't take it the wrong way. I find in situations like this...it's the people who handle business and take care of shit....who are the ones who end up getting the rebates. I can give you countless examples....but take my word for it...I have NEVER missed out on a rebate.....I have had SEVERAL companies who have tried to play games...just like Office Depot...but i've handled it.

I don't think you should relent....that's where most people end up screwing themselves. I had the SAME EXACT situation occur with Best Buy....about a year ago...they had the same crap TWO ORIGINAL UPC tags needing to be sent to TWO DIFFERENT PLACES. I immediately noticed the bullshit and instead of just copying one of them and sending it with a note saying....oh..the original was sent elsewhere...da..da...da...instead i called Best Buy...got the name of the dumb chump I spoke to....told them the scenario.....and he said it was a clear mistake....I should just send a photocopy to such and such location. I said good...but didn't stop there...I told him I wanted some notes in the computer under this problem...so IF I had to call back...the money would come outta best buy's ass.

He laughed and said no problem.....guess what? I mailed the copied upc where they said...and BAM....got BOTH REBATES. But I was pissed I still had to waste my time with that. Anyway...talk about redemption...about a week later I was in Best Buy and there were TWO $25 rebates on the LITE-ON 163D DVD-ROM. I'll never forget this. The DVD-ROM was $59.99 and there were TWO...COUNT EM'...TWO $25 M.I.R. I thought there had to be some mistake...I knew that DVD-ROM was top notch and at that time...new....so I quickly purchased it...sent in BOTH REBATES...one was to the manufacturer...the other was to BEST BUY.....the receipt said the same crap about "ORIGINAL" to both places...I handled the situation the same as I already mentioned.....

anyway, I went to Best Buy a day later for some other things..and noticed that there was ONLY ONE REBATE on the LITE-ON DVD ROM....so it looked just as I suspected....it appeared to be a big mistake on BEST BUY's part as to who was to offer the $25 rebate. So i'm thinkin' that would be tight work if I can get BOTH rebates.....but I figured Best Buy may of caught it and they'd put me in the database as receiving a rebate already.....and I wouldn't get BOTH.


But after 8 weeks I got the Lite-On $25 M.I.R....two more weeks went by and I was like...damn....i'm probably not gonna get this $25....and low and behold.....a day or so later...ANOTHER $25 M.I.R check came from BEST BUY!! hahaha....That brought the total price for the LITE-ON 163D brand spakin' new...to $9.99. Anyway, back to the original topic ....take my advice...don't relent...I guarantee if you handle it the way I'm telling you...you'll get your rebate...and if you still can't get it...i'd put cash money down right now that I could get it for you. Handle your business...don't let these shady companies pull stunts with their "SCAMS" AND "SCAM BOOKS."

[hedstrosity]

so whats the media id of the kyphermedia?
are they 4x?
are they reliable?
not a bad price if theyre 4x and good quality

[spiderman2k1]

my Pioneer Ao4 burn's khypermedia no problem and i burned over 100 DVD-R's. When I had my two Sony DRU500 it could not burn khypermedia. All I can say sony DRU500 suck's.

[defense]

my Pioneer Ao4 burn's khypermedia no problem and i burned over 100 DVD-R's. When I had my two Sony DRU500 it could not burn khypermedia. All I can say sony DRU500 suck's.

I wonder how someone who has been around for 2 years could be as confused as you sipdey. You've made it a point about 100 times to say that the Sony burners suck.

Pioneer couldn't hold Sony's jock strap when it was SWEATY...get real...you had a bad experience....many more people have had their Pioneer burners crap out then their Sony burners. The DRU500A AND AX are as close to perfection as a DVD burner can be. That says a lot especially when they were the first in the world to release a multi-format burner. You'd think that the Sony burners would and EASILY COULD have SEVERE issues....but they are just damn near Perfection! Just look at the early cd writers and cd media...issue after issue..until eventually they got it down to a science...look at Sony with their world's first DRU510A to burn +RW @4x. Where's Pioneer's +RW 4X BURNERS???...lol...i'll tell you where they are...right there in their weak ass lab..dissecting the REAL SONY DRU510A. Saying to themselves....MY GOSH...how does Sony keep doing it. Oh...and what about Blu-Ray? Yea,...Pioneer's way behind there too...no surprise.....

companies like Pioneer..are...the 'DUPLICATORS' .....and duplicate pretty good. But there are very few INNOVATORS....and Sony always has been ....and always will be..THE "INNOVATORS."

You're very confused to say the least...I think the Green Goblin sprayed a little too much of that smoke on you Spidey.


BTW, as an owner of the DRU500A, THE DRU500AX AND NOW THE DRU-510A ....all I can say is that each of those burners are worth their weight in Gold...but I gotta admit...I love the DRU-510A....this thing is even burning the crappiest of media @4x.....every damn thing i've thrown at it burns at 4x.....which I will make another post on after i'm through testing.

Sony's #1

[LanEvo7]

many more people have had their Pioneer burners crap out then their Sony burners.

Where did you read this from? I've read a lot more people have their Sony drives fail on them over here and other forums. Especially in the first three months. There seems to be a problem with this.

[defense]

LanEvo wrote:

Where did you read this from? I've read a lot more people have their Sony drives fail on them over here and other forums. Especially in the first three months. There seems to be a problem with this.

I'm gonna post some links at the end of this post LanEvo...where countless people have had issues with their Pioneer burners crapping out. I did this search very quickly too and still got an overwhelming number of negative pioneer posts.

Let me say this first....some people are just ignorant and naive..and i'm not saying that to be deragatory. Naive means people who are "simple." People who can't understand complex facts for some reason or another. People who have a personal negative experience with a product and think everyone has also had that same negative experience. Ignorant: Not knowledgable..at the very least on a specific subject...such as Sony's electronics...i.e...DVD Burners. Spidey seems to think that because the Pioneer burners will burn crappy 4x media @4x then they are BETTER then the Sony burners.

That's is about as ignorant a statement as can be. If anything..that makes the Sony burners better. Burning that crappy media @4x causes more coasters on average and I have interesting Kprobe and Nero Cd speed results i'm going to post in the next day or so proving exactly my point.....crappy media burned @2x ends up being much more stable then crappy media being burned @4x...on average. Not ALL MEDIA have this formula..and not ALL CRAPPY media have this formula..but that does apply to a lot of crappy media.

I didn't hear too many people complaining when their Sony burners burned all those "1X" ACCU'S @2X with virtually no problems...as well as a ton of other 1x media burned @2x. And if people understood media more...they'd understand that the Sony burners burn the highest quality 4x media @4x. I've recently gotten the DRU-510A and that laser is clearly stronger then that of the DRU-500A (AX.) That's another thread though.

Oh, and Just for the record...I like Pioneer products as well. Certain products though....like my car system is Pioneer...and although I'm normally a strictly Sony user....i've always been biased for Pioneer auto systems.

Here's the links for those wonderful (DUPLICATORS) at Pioneer's ..wonderful burners.

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=174191

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=625945&highlight=pioneer+dead#625945

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=621832&highlight=pioneer+dead#621832

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=609283&highlight=pioneer+dead#609283

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=595336&highlight=pioneer+dead#595336

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=469371&highlight=pioneer+dead#469371

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=384721&highlight=pioneer+dead#384721

BTW..as I said...this search was done QUICKLY...and one will never get an accurate result unless you find out how many TOTAL people on this forum have a SONY BURNER and how many have a Pioneer burner...and find out how many of those people had/HAVE a defective burner.

My point was that MANY PEOPLE...have had the same issues with dead burners...as the Sony posts. My point was also to say HOW IN THE HELL can a Pioneer burner be BETTER then a SONY burner...when countless people have said they do nothing but make perfect DVD's damn near every time. Myself included in that. How can ones Pioneer burner be better then mine when all I do is make perfect DVD after perfect DVD? And as I said....my burner, the Sony DRU-510A can burn +RW...where's Pioneer on that technology? Twiddling their thumbs like they usually are....behind...no surprise there. As I said clearly early on...Sony are INNOVATORS..t.hat's why they are the Electronic Giants...they are the CHIEFS...Pioneer are just Indians.

Sony is the #1 biggest electronics giant in the world for A REASON. Innovation...and perfection...and to be able to pull off what they have already with the likes of their incredible quality WORLD'S FIRST..DUAL FORMAT BURNER...AND TO DO IT WITH THE DAMN NEAR PERFECTION they have done it with...is absolutely staggering. Anybody that knows ANYTHING about electronics will tell you that. And Sony's once again DOING IT AGAIN WTIH BLU-RAY.

It's MUCH EASIER for a company to look at technology from another company and attempt to make their own variations.....that's like me copying someone elses homework and changing a few lines. LMAO....

Or how bout this one....how bout Pioneer's TOTAL CRAP A03 AND A04 BURNERS...with their weak lasers that die out oh so easily? OH..wait...but Pioneer makes a better A05 now and an A06...so we shouldn't look at that..right? Yea...well guess what....THAT'S PIONEER'S THIRD AND FOURTH ATTEMPT AT A DVD BURNER....and what a shame...those weren't even DUAL FORMAT BURNERS....Pioneer couldn't even get the single format -R format down pat with their WEAK LASERS. But where's Sony with the DRU500A AND THE DRU500AX...how bout the "FIRST" attempt.

Oh.....how bout this one....Sony and Philips patented their amazing write strategies and prevented other "COPY CAT" companies like Pioneer from using them. Pioneer was pissed about that and had to develop their own technology & write strategies. So sad they actually had to devise their "OWN WORK" for a change, huh? I'm sure most have no clue what i'm talking about...that's no surprise.

Sony's #1 ...and without a doubt...the best money i've ever spent on anything has been for the Sony burners. They're worth their weight in GOLD.

[LanEvo7]

First off I am not trying to start another Sony VS Pioneer war. I just want to make that clear before anybody jumps on me.

Defense, I'm not trying to spite you or anything, but I really think you should read those links you posted. Half of them deals with A03/A04 dying and it didn't crap out. It was because they didn't upgrade to the latest firmware before using 4x media. Its widespread that you must upgrade to the newest firmware before using 4x media. Obviously this is not ALL of the customer's fault since I believe that once a manufacturer comes out with a product, it should work properly without updating it every other week. Seriously though, I could do the same for Sony+Dead search and I'll find about the same number of posts. Obviously manufactures are not 100% perfect, so there will be some defects. Its only after a significant amount that it becomes an issue. I don't really see that to be a problem with either company.

[defense]

@Lanevo...I agree....I've never engaged in any of the Pioneer vs Sony threads because I know the facts and just keep to myself because I know it will get heated. Not that I care so much about that...I just realize it's a waste of time when people who have no clue what they are saying post as though their experiences are everyone elses. And I mean that for SONY USERS TOO. Just because somebody has an excellent Sony product..whatever it is...doesn't mean IT'S THE GREATEST.

And I did scan those posts and I know i've personally read at least 7 posts or so where people have had legitimate DEAD PIONEER burners. I just searched on ONE FORUM and just searched key words Pioneer and Dead. If you take the time to put in "DIE" and "PIONEER" or "BURNED OUT" and "PIONEER" or "BAD" AND "PIONEER"...you'll read the same posts I did.

As I said though....with the massive number of people who own BOTH drives...it's a small percentage of people who have defects. I just always hear about how people say SONY burners are the only ones that die out...that's a complete crock and even the quick links I posted..for whatever Pioneer's problem or reason prove that. Also, look at what I said regarding those MAJOR LASER ISSUES with the owner's of the A03 AND A04...those weren't even MULTIFORMAT BURNERS.....and countless people had issues which were not covered by warranty because the warranty period had elapsed.

Now how many shots has Pioneer had in making a DVD BURNER? Look at SONY'S FIRST SHOT at a dual format burner..and not just "A" but "THE" as in "THE" World's First Ever! No other company could pull of what Sony has done and continues to do....that's why no other company DID nor WILL with BLU-RAY, GREEN-RAY, PURPLE AND GREEN RAY..or ANY other RAY....Sony are the Chiefs..the rest are the Indians. People can believe what they want to believe...but sometimes facts are a good thing to consider.

[Lobe]

so what percent of these people have Pioneers and what percent have Sony?
and how many units has Pioneer sold, Sony?

Sony seems a bit new to this market- to me so back you stats up how many out of 1000 failed or something similar, else it is meaningless, right?
Of course, if you, personally had a failure it helps to let us know.
thanks!

[verchad]

Just passing this along, I have used quite a few of these khypermedia dvd-r's from oficemax ( last week they were 10 for $9.99 after in store discount and i picked up 20 ). I have gotten a few rebates from officemax. Those booklets can be a pain to deal with. A few times on some of the products that have had two rebates available, only one rebate, the manufacturers, needed the upc, the officemax rebate just needed the form and the rebate receipt they give you with the regular receipt. It's such a game to these companies, not just officemax, to offer these rebates, then make them difficult to get, and take 6,8,10 weeks to process. They hope that you will forget or give up when you have a legit complaint and they get to keep your money.

[Faustus]

Hope these are not the Same Khypermedia I got from Microcenter, cause those disc were really awful toward the end.

[verchad]

I've bought these occasioncally when officemax has had them on sale. They have recorded well with both my panasonic dmr-hs2 and my cendyne/pioneer 104 dvd-r/rw drive. Play back fine on these units, 2 apexes, a koss, a jvc, and a few others.

[macleod]

@ defense:

No, I wont take it the wrong way. I am getting ready to start my "campaign" to get my rebate. I have just noticed that officemax makes it more difficult to get your rebate than other companies like best buy. The two companies that I find to be the best are actually best buy and staples with rebates. Officemax makes it EXTREMELY difficult to get a rebate. They really tick me off!!!!

[normando]

Here is some info to cool all of the folks steaming at the OfficeMax rebates schemes:

http://www.rebateshq.com

You can track each and every rebate you send to them. I also noticed that once I track one of my rebates at this site it seems to prod them along. I do agree that it sucks that you usually have to wait the full 8 weeks to get your money from them. I noticed BestBuy's turnaround time to be much quicker.

Defense should change his name to Offense. Stop jumping on everyone. We are just sharing our experiences man.

I really do appreciate all of the research that Defense and Disturbed1 perform on the different dvd media's available. It is alot more work than any of can imagine. Keep up the good work guys.

I did notice in much of the research that inexpensive media simply cannot be burned using Sony burners period. Pioneer handles everything in stride. That is just an observation that I have noticed in many, many posts in the media forum.

[cplevel42]

flaystus wrote:

Hope these are not the Same Khypermedia I got from Microcenter, cause those disc were really awful toward the end.

Yeah, I have tried those KrapperMedia discs and the vertic is in. They SUCK! They are really bad at the end. No prob if your just burning 3.5 gig, but as soon as you get close to 4.2, its all over, error city.

I don't want to start a war, but, I have had really BAD experiences with Sony products. They are very unreliable and poorly made. This was NOT the case back in the 80s and early 90's. They have really gone down hill since then. I think they just got lazy. This often happens when you are top dog.

There is one other reason I do NOT support Sony. They don't back "Fair Use" rights. All of the new CDs from Sony records are copy protected so that consumers cannot rip out seperate tracks to make compilation CDs. This is bullshit and greed driven. I make lots of mix CDs and will continue to fight for my right to do so. There is an easy way to breaK this copy protection. Look on Google.

[txpharoah]

khypermedia = crap = CMC or LD = junk = waste of $$ = waste of time

[vtecwil]

KHypermedia DVD-R discs are a mixed bag . Here is the media code from a 25 spindle that I got on sale at Office Max over a month ago .

Media Information
Disc is Region 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8
Media code/Mfr ID TDKG020000
Formatted Size 4.37GB(4.69GB)
Total Size 4.37GB(4.69GB)
Book Type DVD-R
Media type V2.0 DVD-R
Media Id Code Speed Unknown
Current Drive Speed 2.0x 2770KBs
Default Rotation Control CLV
Linear Density 0.267um/bit
No of Layers 1

Yes ! This actually the media code from these discs . Dont know what it means , but they burn fine at 2X in my DRU-500AX . Had one or two coasters from write errors , but this is about normal for me with -R . These were full 4.36 gig burns and they play fine all the way to the end . Not bad for a buck a piece . But the ones I've had ( and returned ) with CMC media codes would only burn at 1X until they failed . What I do is buy some check the media code and if its not CMC give em' a try . If they act funny or have the CMC media code I take em' back and get my refund .

[WaferJ]

I have had terible luck with Khypermedia DVD-R's. I was NEVER able to burn video discs that worked, they would all pause throughout the movie. I was able to burn data discs that work though...

[preacher238]

I have had nothing but good luck with Khypermedia. All of the discs (50 in 2 different spindles) I have burned work just fine! (with my Pioneer burner!!)

[ipgpe13]

I got a 25 pack of the khypermedia dvd-r last time they were on sale at Office Max.

They worked out great for me, not one coaster with them burned on my Sony DRX500ULX.