TBC on Panasonic

[zanos]

Anyone else find the TBC on the panasonic kind of weak? The one on my jvc vcr is better but the one drawback is it only fixes the fairly good recordings. Bad recordings suffer from various instability in the picture or other distortions. The panasonic has no problem with even bad vhs.

[piano632]

Yes, someone please tell us how good this TBC is on the Panasonic. I too have a JVC VCR with TBC which seems to fix things like color flicker that other supposed TBC's don't fix at all. I have several tapes that exhibit this color flicker problem (thank you, cable TV), but many of them aren't on VHS so I can't put them in the JVC. Will the Panasonic fix the unsteady color problem? If not the Panasonic - is there one that will that isn't too expensive

[lordsmurf]

There are several grades of TBC's available.

1. Cheap. Does very little. Example: SIMA CopyMaster. Price $40
2. Average. Does a fair share of work, but not perfect. Example: JVC 7900 and 9600 SVHS VCRs and the Panasonic E50 and other simliar VCRs and recorders with built-ins. Price $100
3. Hefty. Does a lot. Example: DataVideo TBC-1000. Price $300
4. Professional. Does everything but cook your breakfast. Example: DataVideo TBC-4000/6000. Price $900

So when comparing TBCs, be sure you categorize them properly. I have a JVC 9800 and a DataVideo TBC-1000, which appears to be a fairly common setup, and it works great. And my JVC does more horizontal corrections while the DataVideo does more vertical corrections.

I'd consider getting one from category #3, even if it serves as an addition to a #2 variation.

[DVWannaB]

There are several grades of TBC's available.

1. Cheap. Does very little. Example: SIMA CopyMaster. Price $40
2. Average. Does a fair share of work, but not perfect. Example: JVC 7900 and 9600 SVHS VCRs and the Panasonic E50 and other simliar VCRs and recorders with built-ins. Price $100
3. Hefty. Does a lot. Example: DataVideo TBC-1000. Price $300
4. Professional. Does everything but cook your breakfast. Example: DataVideo TBC-4000/6000. Price $900

So when comparing TBCs, be sure you categorize them properly. I have a JVC 9800 and a DataVideo TBC-1000, which appears to be a fairly common setup, and it works great. And my JVC does more horizontal corrections while the DataVideo does more vertical corrections.

I'd consider getting one from category #3, even if it serves as an addition to a #2 variation.

lordsmurf,

What can you tell us about the AVToolBox AVT-8710 Time Based Corrector ($179) in comparison to the DataVideo TBC-1000? Similar, better, not as good, etc? Much appreciated.

[mastrl]

How can you tell which JVC SVHS recorders have TBC

[lordsmurf]

How can you tell which JVC SVHS recorders have TBC

It'll say in the manual. They also turn on and off with a button on the front. The JVC HRS7000 series has a 2MB TBC and the JVC HRS9000 series has a 4MB TBC. In addition to the TBC, they have some DNR, though they can only be used together. I like the older x600 (7600,9600) and x800 (7800,9800) versions more than the x900 versions (7900,9900). I saw a 9911 perform poorly, and the 7900 is not without errors.

The JVC TBC lacks decent frame sync for vertical issues. But it's the best horizontal correction I've seen to date.

I have no information on the AVT-8710, and given the price, I'm suspect of its ability to outperform the DataVideo line. However it may be fine. I just don't have access to one for testing. Everybody I know has DataVideo.

[piano632]

I can say the AVT-8710 doesn't fix color flicker problems like the JVC machines. But on the other hand the AVT-8710 removes all copy-protection and makes the image look a little more film-like which the JVC doesn't do. So I guess if you want to have the best of everything, you need to spend big money.

[mastrl]

can someone tell me what JVC SVHS models have TBC?

[zanos]

Lordsmurf I've got the JVC 7600. Can you tell me how much better is the datavideo 100 in comparison? thnx

[piano632]

can someone tell me what JVC SVHS models have TBC?

I think all of the JVC S-VHS models in the 7000 and 9000 series have them. They are all the more expensive S-VHS machines. I think the current best model is the HR-S9911U but it may not be as good as previous "9000" models from a few years back due to cost-cutting. I have the 9600 which I think is the all-time best of the 9000 series from what I've heard.