George is gettin ANGREE!!

[DUKE107]

Well I have a trv25 DV cam and thought DV video was setup for pc, upload via iLink edit and burn baby. BUT NO. I have to learn how the universe was created first!!!

I encoded my vid and edit with TMPGE and burned with Nero, results were good at times and blocky at other, lost sound for a while, well you get the idea. I use DVDTOSVCD to do DVD's with outstanding quality (Near DVD quality)

My latest road block is just finding out what frame rate the DV AVI file is, I went to virtualdub to check frame rate and it needs a codec, tried loading some and got same error message. Anyone know what to do!!

Duke

[andkiich]

I think it's time to start reading some guides. That will help immensely!

And, even though it sounds like I'm being a smart arse, I'm really not.

[DUKE107]

Thank you for that, T certainly would not have post this mess without reading guides, they tell me you may need a codec for Dv vid and sugest a list, I load and still cannot open file, guide does not go beyond that.

[holistic]

........finding out what frame rate the DV AVI file.........

Couldn't be simpler - look on the side of your camcorder (maybe read its instruction book) The camera may have a sticker stating ---- NTSC or PAL.

NTSC = 29.97 , PAL = 25 fps

North America = NTSC , EUROPE (and some of the colonies) are PAL.
SECAM = french (NO COMMENT)

.........I encoded my vid and edit with TMPGE and burned with Nero........

Ya so ! ... I wouldn't recomend editing with TMPGEnc but instead a dedicated NLE. Encoded how ( mpeg1, mpeg2 - bitrates? ) all this matters.

Virtual Dub WILL work with DV just get the one from 'Mainconcept'



THE ABOVE CAN STAY

Well i re read your first post and now and am getting the idea you are using it for AD conversions of other sources .Is this correct ?

If this is the case it really dosen't matter what the original codec is , all you need is a DV codec.

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[DUKE107]

I just tried loading Mainconcept DV Codec and it worked, DV is type 1 audio and video combined with frame rate 29.?? I now understand i need to convert to type 2 DV format for Virtualdub to read audio.

[DUKE107]

To Holistic,

Is it not true that NTSC can be 29.?? or 23.??

That was what I wanted to know as I have found in ripping and encoding DVD's to SVCD's I must use 23.?? to achieve perfect quality in playback, hence was hoping that was my problem with a little blockiness with my first SVCD of a original DV file.

Anyways thanks to those who responded, this forum is very appreciated by many.

Duke

[holistic]

Never seen a 23 fps home video camera (as that was the topic of my response)
A rare thing indeed.
Well aware of frame rates . :P

Frame Rates
Standard definition frame rates are: 24 frames per second (fps) for film, 25 fps for PAL video, and 29.97 fps for NTSC. High definition frame rates start with 23.98 fps, the film rate slowed down slightly, to convert to NTSC video without a speed shift. The film rate of 24 fps is next, then 25 fps matching PAL, and 29.97 fps matching NTSC. 30 fps is a round number alternative to NTSC's 29.97. There are also high speed rates of 50 fps (twice the PAL rate), 59.94 fps (twice the NTSC rate), and 60 fps, another round number alternative

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[DUKE107]

To holistic

I was wondering what program you would suggest other than TMPGE to edit with as you mentioned I should use a dedicated NLE? I am, as I can see you are a perfectionist for quality ( not superceding the original ).

Duke

[holistic]

I started out using Virtual Dub, FREE and has lots of knowledgeable support.
http://www.virtualdub.org/
I still go back to it occassionally for the 'unoffical' MPEG2 support.
http://fcchandler.home.comcast.net/

I now use Adobe Premiere 6 . It is great except for no mpeg2 encoder .I get around that by frameserving with avisynth to TMPGEnc.
Note : Premiere 6.5 now comes with a MPEG2 encoder.
Premiere was the one raved about when i got into video, in retrospect i would now seriously consider Vegas Video.

Other Options :
Vegas Video 4.0
Ulead MediaStudio Pro

Most have a 'trialware' version - check them all out before you decide.


Some reviews (sort of !)
http://www.digitalvideoediting.com/

https://www.videohelp.com/tools#Advanced%20Video%20Editors

[DUKE107]

After doing some reading I have just got a copy of Premiere 6.5 and will play around with it.