Any software i can try to remove subtitles

[perfection]

I have an English movie which has english subtitles (queer?) and would like to TRY and remove the subtitle elements
Coulkd you recommend some program i may use??
I have reason to believe that the subtitles were ADDED LATER

Thanks in advance

[Bob W]

DVD2one will do that.

[Bullworth]

Just curious perfection but is this a (s)vcd or DVD and if it is a DVD are they hardcoded onto the video, that is you don' t have the option to turn them off. If this is the case you'll have to find another way to do what you want to do.

[dcsos]

YOU CANNOT REMOVE SUBTITLES that are IN THE MPEG STREAM.
the best you could do is find the original movie and do it over!

if they're not in the MPEG stream, you can turn them off, you needn't remove them (as this removal is a cumbersome process and requires you to re-render
the mpeg-stream without the title option)

So if turning them off doesn't do it for you
use one of the programs with stripping options like
DVD2ONE
DVD 9 to 5
or
INSTANT COPY

i'm sure there are others

[perfection]

Sorry everyone - i did not give suffciient details and i deserve the ambiguous replies i got.

The movie is Coyote Ugly which i acquired on VCD and have till now just copied the avseq.dat file from the (mpegav folder) to my HDD and renamed dat to mpg. When played the same, i discovered the subtitles which i now would like to remove

That's the story

But god knows whether the VCd has been copied from a DVD guys

can i convert to some other file format, remove the subtitles and get back to mpeg or am i talkig thru my hat....

[dcsos]

Its EASY.. If you can use the remote to turn them off "SUBTITLES OFF"
then you can remove them

If you can't then you're stuck with them on always..

And like I said , why remove them, If you can , in fact, turn them off?

[Codesmith]

If the subtitles are storted separately like they are on DVD then you can just turn them off.

If the subtitles are, as I suspect, actually part of the video then no software can remove them.

The only way to remove them would be to make create a still image for each frame of the video (about 29 per second) open them up in photoshop and paint over all the letters one at a time trying to replicate as best what you think is originally there.

[perfection]

codesmith
THAT would take forever

[Codesmith]

Well I just don't like to say something is impossible.

DVDs keep the subtitles separate the superimose them over the frams durring playback.

I don't think video cds have that as an option. Subtitles are either left out or merged with video frames.

[Allan55]

There is a filter for VirtualDub that can "blur out" areas of the screen using surrounding pixels. It's meant for those annoying semi-transparent screen logos on TV but it might give you acceptable results. It means a re-encode.

Allan

[Vejita-sama]

Yeah the VDub 'logo away' filter. I've seen it used with mixed results. If you know to look you can always tell that 'something' is different about the video. My advise is to actually go out and buy the DVD if it upsets that much

[dcsos]

The best method for removal of such embedded subtitles (barring someones paint frame-by frame method)
is to make a KEY in PREMIERE or AVID that consists of a BLACK SUBTITLE
by inverting the title.. Now this file would have to be exactly the same frame length.
If you put this track on another layer in the NON-LINEAR editor,
you could drop all subtitles to dark BLACK(close to invisible)!

thats the best I'll hope never to do!

[Codesmith]

Just out of curiousity. How long would you it take an expert at Premiere to accoplish such a task?

[dcsos]

I think it could be done with an HOUR of creating the kEYABLE layer..
In premiere, I would invert the clip (NEGATIVE IMAGE) then use a KEY (LUMINANCE KEY)
the key would be cutting a hole in the FRAME on the time line every where
a subtitle exists.
THUS, only the very white things on the picture (subtitles themselves)
would be flickering as you adust the level at which the picure is CUT OFF

and the new (BLACK LETTER) is keyed over

(I would do a 5 minute test render..re adjust the KEY CLIP and the
Bightness of orig and amount of effect up or down)

Then if its a feature..RENDER..or spend a second HOUR re-doing the settings and then render...

PREMIER is buggy so save often..
If a bug turns up..CLOSE..REBOOT...Open the last save before BUG!

if the original subtitle changed in white level during the clip, the subtitles would apppear and dissappear...and WHITE THINGs in other ares of the PICTURE could be affected If you don't remember to MASK to the LOWER THIRD of the frame area and only apply your KEY near the SUBTITLE AREA ..so the whites in other areas of pic aren't affected