DivX to VCD with Subs

[GotH]

Hello, i have been trying to convert several divx movies to VCD with Subtitles, but i ALWAYS get a sync problem, the audio and subs run just fine but the video get out of sync by a 1 sec of delay aproximately, what can i do

The framerate of the avi is 23.975
The Movie size is 512 x 288
Im using virtual Dub 1.5.2 and TMpgEnc 2.510
Subs are in sub (microDVD) format

The preview in Virtual Dub seem just fine well sync, but when i encode it with tmpgenc frameserved from virtual dub, it start to get out of sync after some minutes from the start of the movie, what could it be the cause of this video delay thanks for your help.

Im using an AMD XP Athlon 2 ghz with 1gb DDR Ram and a GeForce4MX 64mb video card with a regular Western Digital 30gb HD

Greetings

Adrian

[GotH]

Please somebody help me

[FulciLives]

Please somebody help me

Have you tried doing it with an AVS script instead?
That's how I do it with no problems with synch.
Usually I use GORDIAN KNOT to help me create a basic AVS script that I then manually edit to suit my needs.
Never ever did the frameserving thing from VirtualDub to TMPGEnc
Just the AVS script method.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[GotH]

And how do i use AVS? i dont know how to use it, i just downloaded it, but it just install some dlls right? can u PLEEAASEE xplain me the method u do to convert your files from divx to vcd with subs? thanks a lot!

[GotH]

OK i have been researching about AVS capabilites, the creation of a .avs file and open it directly on the encoder of chose, that kind of stuff... but... i dont undestand the commands very well, do u have a template script for frameserving with AVS directly to Tmpgenc with a sub file in .sub (microdvd)? thanks

Btw, if AVS cant read the .sub i have the tools needed to convert it to srt or ssa whatever is needed, thanks.

[FulciLives]

OK i have been researching about AVS capabilites, the creation of a .avs file and open it directly on the encoder of chose, that kind of stuff... but... i dont undestand the commands very well, do u have a template script for frameserving with AVS directly to Tmpgenc with a sub file in .sub (microdvd)? thanks

Btw, if AVS cant read the .sub i have the tools needed to convert it to srt or ssa whatever is needed, thanks.

I usually let GORDIAN KNOT create my AVS file for me then I just manually edit it with the Windows Notepad text editor. As you may know GORDIAN KNOT was made mostly for doing DivX and Xvid conversions from DVD sources but I use it all the time for various things such as creating an AVS file for me. Also GORDIAN KNOT comes with VobSub built in so you can RIP your subtitles and place it in the AVS script.

Basically you will have a line like this in the AVS script:

VobSub("D:\MOVIE\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_0")
The "VTS_01_0" is the name of your VobSub file.

Sample AVS created by GORDIAN KNOT based on a 16x9 PAL DVD source:

#
# Created with Gordian Knot
#
# http://gknot.doom9.org
#
# PLUGINS
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\mpeg2dec3.dll")
#LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\decomb.dll")
#LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\Convolution3d.dl l")
#LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\FluxSmooth.dll")
#LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\TomsMoComp.dll")
#LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\VSFilter.dll")
#LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\SimpleResize.dll ")
#
# SOURCE
mpeg2source("D:\SLEEPLESS\VIDEO_TS\movie.d2v")
#
# TRIM
#trim(startframe,endframe)
#
# IVTC
#Telecide(guide=1).Decimate(5)
# or use
#IVTC(44,11,95)
#GreedyHMA(1,0,4,0,0,0,0,0)
#
# DEINTERLACING (1)
#FieldDeinterlace()
#FieldDeinterlace(blend=false)
#TomsMoComp(1,5,1)
#
# CROPPING
crop(0,0,720,576)
#
# DEINTERLACING (2)
#SeparateFields().SelectEven()
# or maybe
#Bob().SelectEven()
# or maybe
#GreedyHMA(1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0)
#
#
# DENOISING: choose one combination (or none)
# 1) little noise
#Temporalsoften(2,3,3,mode=2,scenechange=6)
#mergechroma(blur(1.3))
#FluxSmooth(5,7)
#
# 2) medium noise
#Temporalsoften(3,5,5,mode=2,scenechange=10)
#Convolution3d("moviehq")
#FluxSmooth(7,7)
#
# 3) heavy noise
#Temporalsoften(4,8,8,mode=2,scenechange=10)
#Convolution3d("movielq")
#FluxSmooth(10,15)
#
# SUBTITLES
#VobSub("FileName")
#
# RESIZING
LanczosResize(640,352)
#
# BORDERS
#AddBorders(left,top,right,bottom)
#
# COMPRESSIBILITY CHECK
# !!!!Snip Size now has to be 14 for use in GKnot!
#SelectRangeEvery(280,14)
#
# FOOL CCEnc
#ResampleAudio(44100)

NOW ...
If I were using this in TMPGEnc I would change the LanczosResize to read 720x422 and then use the AddBorders command to pad the top and bottom 77 pixels each to get back up to a proper PAL video height of 576
That would convert a 16x9 PAL DVD to a 4:3 Widscreen DVD. Or you can just disregard the LanczosResize by putting a "#" in front of it. Any line with "#" in front is ignored.

Hope that helps some.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

P.S.
The following line must be active (remove the "#") when using VobSub:

#LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\VSFilter.dll")

Last but not least by program DIR paths are not going to be the same as that on your own computer so don't let that confuse you.

[GotH]

Thanks a Lot! You Know, i did it yesterday after a lot of reading lol, with 3 simple lines it worked for me excelent, because the filters i used where in tmpgenc so i just used this:

AVIFileSource("C:\Documents and Settings\Adrian\Escritorio\vcd\Nueva carpeta\Princess Mononoke.avi")
LoadPlugin("C:\Documents and Settings\Adrian\Escritorio\vcd\virtual Dub\plugins\textsub.vdf")
textsub("C:\Documents and Settings\Adrian\Escritorio\vcd\Nueva carpeta\mono.ssa")


And voila! Movie with excelently well sync subs/audio/video i will try what you posted here to improve quality, thanks again!