New Pioneer 105 owner question...

[elshiftos]

Hi all,
Just got myself a 105 with 1.30 firmware, still waiting for a selection of blanks to be delivered so I thought I'd have a browse on here in the meantime.
Can you guys give me any advice as to what media is recommended and the speed that it can be written at. I have ordered some red datawrite 4x, will these also write at 1 and 2x?

Cheers!

[spidey]

I have a DVR 105 and burn ritek g03's at 1x. I know it's doing it slow, but I have yet to ever have a coaster or loss with them.

I use Prassi Primo DVD to burn with.

DO NOT buy Princo's

Also, see the MEDIA section to the left for more info.

[Athlon]

I have a DVR 105 and burn ritek g03's at 1x. I know it's doing it slow, but I have yet to ever have a coaster or loss with them.

good advice !! :P

stick with Ritek discs for movies, for archiving stuff from you PC you can be a little bit more forgiving. The general rule is, if a disc is cheap, then it very probably is. Dont touch Bulqpak, be wary of Princo. And also, be careful of what software you use. Nero is great for CD's but i find it awful for DVD. I use Stomp Record MAX, similar to Prassi. Gives a much more compatible disc.

enjoy

[jnk76]

I also use Ritek G03's. I am using the firmware hack and writing at 2X without any problems. I leave about 30MB open at end for some breathing room though.

I mainly use Record Now but sometimes use Nero without problems and the burning through IC7 if I use that program to re-encode.

I have also heard that BeAll is very good but haven't tried. There are many other good discs but cost a lot more as well.......like

APPLE 2X


this one is always mentioned by someone....you know who you are.

[amichael]

don't use Bulkpaq ?
I would say buy one of these packs where you can try 5-6 different DVD's. I did and found they all worked on my 105 and my Sony 905 dvd player. So I went for the cheapest BULKPAQ purple dvd-r at 59p each. ALL 50 used so far - no coasters. I use them for films and data . I would love to buy more, but have noticed they have gone up to about 90p each now !!!!

[vric]

My friend have a Pioneer and I have an LG.

Princo are bad media, be aware (it's ok for datastorage for DVD-ROM, not standalone DVD player)

Ritek disk G03 are very good media.. Burn at 2X on his Pioneer and on my LG

oh, and a Bad media dont mean coaster ! Princo disk never give me coaster, but they skip at the end of the movie and after some time (1 or 2 month) they are unreadable (didn't noticed that yet)

[Remco]

Hi all,
Just got myself a 105 with 1.30 firmware, still waiting for a selection of blanks to be delivered so I thought I'd have a browse on here in the meantime.
Can you guys give me any advice as to what media is recommended and the speed that it can be written at. I have ordered some red datawrite 4x, will these also write at 1 and 2x?

Cheers!

Very good choice!! The red datawrites are the best 4speed dvd-r's you can get at the moment. They have a Princo media ID and although I have to agree with a lot of people here that the 1 and 2speed Princo media were absolute crap the 4speed Princo's really are great!!

I've tested the orange bulkpaq, red datawrites, black and princo 4speeds and they all have a Princo media ID and are perfect for stand alone players

gr.
Remco

[xxBladExx]

I also own a pioneer. And i'm using princo's and never had a problem (4X).

The movies I own are playing fine in all DVD's I have tried.....

[AarontheRipper]

I have the 105 and have been using the Ritek G03's. I've probably burned 50 or 60, and have yet to make a coaster. Also no skipping problems. Great disk, but they've gone up in price lately. However, at 1.20 a disk, they'll still be the only one's I buy. It's also nice burning at 2x with the 1.30 hacked firmware.

[awhitney]

I use Pioneer's dvd-r media and burn at 4X and get really nice results.

I don't understand why some you guys burn at 1 and 2x? Am I missing something? if the drive supports 4x, why not burn at 4x instead of 2x? Just curious to know

[orbital517]

I use Pioneer's dvd-r media and burn at 4X and get really nice results.

I don't understand why some you guys burn at 1 and 2x? Am I missing something? if the drive supports 4x, why not burn at 4x instead of 2x? Just curious to know

That's good question. For some reason, people here seem to think that the slower you burn, the more reliable the disk or burn. I'm not sure where the info is coming from though. I burn only at 4X and NEVER have any problems with playback or quality.

[txpharoah]

My 105 has never given me a bad burn on a Princo. I buy 1x, 2x, and 4x Princos, and have burned 1,000s of them, with maybe 25 ever coming up bad, and some of that was my fault.

But Princo on another drive -- WHOLE DIFFERENCE story.

With the 105 DVD-R, you should be fine to use whatever. I suggest staying away from uncoated discs like Ritek if you want them to still work in 5 years.

[txpharoah]

I use Pioneer's dvd-r media and burn at 4X and get really nice results.

I don't understand why some you guys burn at 1 and 2x? Am I missing something? if the drive supports 4x, why not burn at 4x instead of 2x? Just curious to know

That's good question. For some reason, people here seem to think that the slower you burn, the more reliable the disk or burn. I'm not sure where the info is coming from though. I burn only at 4X and NEVER have any problems with playback or quality.

Myths. In the old days of VCD, if a disc didn't play, they'd just burn it slower and it magically worked. Wanna know the magic?

Either the drive was dying or the media was bad. Slowing up the burn may alleviate the condition, as the faster the disc spins, the more likely for error. As long as you have a good drive and you don't abuse it AND use good media, burn at the max speed. It's why I have a LiteOn CD-R drive and a Pioneer 105 drive - they are the best, and results show it by burning max speeds on almost any disc, and it turns out great.

[w00tski]

thats not entirely true, if the media is burnt at a higher speed than it is rated, it will also give you errors. some media out there is junk and will give you errors at the rated speed also... buyer beware

[mikk]

don't forget that that the faster you burn, the softer the edges are on the burn marks.

the laser takes a certain amount of time to turn on and off, and during that time the disc moves. so instead of getting a disc with pits like this: _|-|_ you get something like this: _/-\_ . Now can you see the problem with burning at higher speeds? of course, you can compensate for this by making the laser stronger and/or the media more sensitive, but that doesn't eliminate the problem, it just makes it not so bad.

[AarontheRipper]

I don't understand why some you guys burn at 1 and 2x? Am I missing something? if the drive supports 4x, why not burn at 4x instead of 2x? Just curious to know

How about because we don't care to spend the extra $.50-1.00 for burning in 15 minutes instead of 30?

[Pussylips]

I got a Pioneer A05
Ritek
Optidisk
BulkPak G3 Purple, never fails
and a brand of RW's worked fine,all at 1x!

[ldbs]

someone asked why do some people burn at 1x or 2x and not at 4x

i am not sure about the other i have a pioneer A05-105 , anyway if the media is 1x it burns at 1x i can't select anything past it, so i think that is why some people have slower speed cause of the media they use?i might be wrong.



I have read many post about the Princo dvd cd's the 1x or whatever
i have used about 25 of them to date,
and all have came out excellent, i have had no coaster nothing,
and They play great on my standalone dvd player ( JVC 502 and my sanyo )

so i dont understand why people are having many problems with these media the princos
, someone else said that it skips towards the end etc etc I haven't seen that problem yet with neither of my dvd players

i dunno.
anyway my two cents

[steptoe]

I bought some Intenso x2 that Maplin use, and haven't had a problem with them, using MovieFactory 2 to create DVD's of some stuff from Kazza
and also a film backup that plays perfectly on my DVD player

But, then again I did buy the player for the reason it is multiregion and can play DVD-R and DVD-RW, so I spent the time looking at my needs and choosing a player and recorder to suit, not what the masses were telling me to buy

The Intenso aren't cheap, it cost me £25 for a spindle of £25, then again most places were trying to charge around £35-£40 for a spindle of 25 branded and unknown branded

Avoid PCWorld/Dixons/Curries their media prices are rediculous, but I already knew that, just wanted to see what they had and ifthey had dropped their prices ... no chance

If fact Maplin are not too cheap at all when it comes to any kind of blank media. Tapes,videos, CD,DVD-R,DVD-RW, but you get what you pay for !!

[energy80s]

I bought some Intenso x2 that Maplin use, and haven't had a problem with them. The Intenso aren't cheap, it cost me £25 for a spindle of 25.

That's very good. I use Intenso CDR discs all the time and they are very reliable. I see that Tescos are now selling both DVD+R and DVD-R discs. They are TDK's and are priced at £3 each - that's with a proper DVD case.

[Pussylips]

Have a look at www.bigpockets.co.uk just for you to compare prices, very good site. I do realise that most people are from the States.