New "unburnable" Madonna cd???

[cellardoor]

Heard a rumor that the new madonna cd is "unburnable". Apparently when you try to burn a video pops up of madonna telling how its against the law and blah...blah...blah...shes a whore. Anyways just seeing if anyone else has heard about this and if its true anyway around it.

[Trust_No_1]

Er not too sure about this one....

Do you have any more quantifiable specifics on this rumour?

There is no such thing as an unburnable CD. Even if there was, it is still possible to just take the audio signal from a CD player and send it into a PC's soundcard and start recording...

Madonna has lost a lot of my respect after her recent tirade. Infact I'm so mad, I might have to download her album on Kazaa - hyperthetically speaking of course

[txpharoah]

Urban legend. Fake news.
If its on my computer, I can copy it.
Usually just use CloneCD and enable error-skip.

[Bob W]

I didn't know there was anyone out there that wanted to copy a Madonna CD.

[cellardoor]

Haha! Its uh....for a friend. I should've also added that I heard the same thing from the 50 cent cd. Neither are not my type of music of course.

[Faustus]

Haven't heard this, but I did read on the net about the fake files they released onto the file trading networks, and it got her website hacked.

http://www.arstechnica.com/

It should still be a front page artical.

[rhegedus]

I'm having a BBQ this afternoon - I'll burn it for you after I've finished cooking!

Regards,

Rob

[pacmania_2001]

Had to laugh about the hack.

She shouldn't have been stupid enough to try and challenge computer users when she clearly didn't have half a clue the consequences that could come from it.

[lukesjr]

as of now, there are NO unburnable cds. madonna, the dumb b#$ch, just released a fake demo, get the info about this on the reg.
clonecd will copy any cd..

[ChrisX]

You say, "unburnable". You mean copy protected CD.

Anyway, Madonna is a f*cking bitch and who cares if it is "unburnable". She probably would say this to you like this: "What the f*ck do you think you're doing!" Who is going to stop someone burning her music?

Off course, you can burn her music into a CD or make MP3 songs. There are ways around it and we aren't stupid.

Copy protected CD's is a backward step for the music industry. I'm not going buy any of this crap, what's the point of buying it when I can't put in the computer as an Mp3 for my own convenience to listen.

Music CD are expensive as well and time for the music industry to reduce prices.

Madonna's days are over and time to find another pop star such as Britney Spears.

[jawgee]

as of now, there are NO unburnable cds. madonna, the dumb b#$ch, just released a fake demo, get the info about this on the reg.
clonecd will copy any cd..

What about Playstation CDs? There are no consumer CD burners or software that will burn the bad sectors onto a CD-R so that it can be played on a PSOne or PS2 without modification. Is it possible that record companies could adopt this technology & apply it to audio CDs?

jawgee

[txpharoah]

I also cannot believe anybody would download a fake MP3 (*).

The file sizes on a song are usually 3-5 megs or more. I cannot see her single sentences being that big. (*)

* This is all given that the file size was not faked (takes some amount of computer knowledge to do). Or ultra-unneeded bitrates to artificially increase size for no real reason other than to fake out pirates.

In all cases, I professionally find her anti-copy actions revolting, though I can appluad her trying something. I'm not a fan of DL-junkies. Not completely innocent here myself, but I only grab a few songs on occasion. I don't have drives full of illegal MP3s. Most of mine came from my CDs I own.

[adam]

What about Playstation CDs? There are no consumer CD burners or software that will burn the bad sectors onto a CD-R so that it can be played on a PSOne or PS2 without modification. Is it possible that record companies could adopt this technology & apply it to audio CDs?

jawgee

No its not realistically possible. Sony developed this copy protection scheme from the ground up, and developed their consoles with it in mind. It would mean nothing for the original game to contain the uncopyable bad sectors if the unmodified console didn't require them to boot.

So in order to implement such copy protection in an audio cd, all new cd players would have to be modified so as to only play cds with these bad sectors. It would literally take at least 20 yrs to phase out all the old players and people would surely find ways to modify the new players long before music retailers/producers got a return on their investment.

It seems that things will continue as they have been for the past few years now, music companies will continue to spend millions of dollars on copy protection schemes which will be bypassed almost immediately after they go into effect.

[Yorel]

Had to laugh about the hack.

She shouldn't have been stupid enough to try and challenge computer users when she clearly didn't have half a clue the consequences that could come from it.

She is blonde, isn't she?

[rhegedus]

I don't think the collar and cuffs match.

Regards,

Rob

[andydd]

I did read somewhere that the money that records companies think they gain by making 'unburnable' CDs, they actually lose because consumers are pissed off with them coz they wont play on theior PCs or quite often DVD players and take em back.. Plus it is actually 'illegal' for them to put a CD Compact Disc logo on the disc becasure it isnt a CD coz it doesnt follow Phillips original CD specifications. Personally ive had no probs copying any of em, Ive read that PC DVD players are a lot more flexiable in reading the data within.

It so amsuing all the various attempts that artists nad record companies have tried, surely a better idea would be to add a bit of money on the sale of CD-Rs to try n cover their losses, i believe this is already done is some countries

[pacmania_2001]

A smart option for the recording companies to do would be to stop wasting money on anti-piracy methods and with the money they save lower the price of their CDs.

[Will Hay]

I'm not a fan of DL-junkies. Not completely innocent here myself, but I only grab a few songs on occasion. I don't have drives full of illegal MP3s. Most of mine came from my CDs I own.

..........Most of mine came from my CDs I own

Hillarious, thanks for sharing that
W.

[Will Hay]

It seems that things will continue as they have been for the past few years now, music companies will continue to spend millions of dollars on copy protection schemes which will be bypassed almost immediately after they go into effect.

And the rest of us, those of us who do buy original cd's and not download them from P2P, will continue to contribute part of the cd price to the ongoing anti-piracy war, however small that amount might be.
Will

[ChrisX]

Madonna's CD, "American Life" is so expensive here in Sydney as I got a chance to have a look at the jewel case of her new release. I was just a bit curious of this copy protection.

I'm not going to buy it and anyway I am sick of her and her music. The price is in Australian Dollars: $29.95 and this is around $US18.50. Way too expensive and I don't feel confident of buying it due to the fact it may be copy protected.

The record industry generally as very negative in this regard and I don't see much future in music CDs.

I haven't seen anything on the jewel case of "American Life" suggesting copy protection, nothing on it.

However, it mentioned "Macromedia" as this is an imaging software for the internet and the computer. It also has a warning of an enhanced video which may not work on some computers and it is about time the record company warns of this problem.

There is still a possiblity to be able to burn the music CD, anyway too expensive and no more Madonna.

[Will Hay]

I don't think the collar and cuffs match.

I think that depends on who she was banging the night before, and what his preference was
Will

[viperjay9]

she should take a good look at this topic on this forum and see what some of the smarter population think of her

[Will Hay]

she should take a good look at this topic on this forum and see what some of the smarter population think of her

Congratulations, your avatar is in my top three favourites
Will

[viperjay9]

she should take a good look at this topic on this forum and see what some of the smarter population think of her

Congratulations, your avatar is in my top three favourites
Will

lol.. thanks, what are the other 2? :dunce:

[WeedVender]

mine is one... sike..

I suggest this.

Why dont all of us go to a store, get a copy protected CD and take it home. Return the next day complaining that you cant play it in your cd player and ask for another one. Take it home and return the next day and complain that you cant play it. The store will be forced to send in a back order and call the suplier and they call the publishers, and they call the people inventing copy protection that something is wrong and they will be forced to stop production and test the CDs. This will waste millions of dollars in the RIAA's part and then they might just forget about copy protection. Unless they plan to invest millions into copy protection at the verge of bankruptcy.

2 cents...

also...

Insert Modona (sp*) Cd into slot B of CD player. Insert Audio line in slot A of CD player. Insert the other end of the line in to the Line-In of the PC. Click the record button. and burn away..

[Will Hay]

she should take a good look at this topic on this forum and see what some of the smarter population think of her

Congratulations, your avatar is in my top three favourites
Will

lol.. thanks, what are the other 2? :dunce:

One is the guy with the kitty pic, the one with the two 'creatures' chasing a kitten and a message proclaiming..."everytime you masturbate God kills a kitten" (or words to that effect).
You seen it?
I'll try search for it.
I'm reserving the third, I can't allocate my all time favourite until I've seen it, can I?
Will

[EddyH]

The "creatures" are domo-kuns, some kind of wooly brown japanese kids TV stop-motion thingy that farts a lot... and likes to rock out, with a septagenarian rabbit playing air guitar. Go to Fark.com (or was it somethingawful? i forget) to hunt down the origins

If it comes down to it, I'll just copy the CDs I like to tape or minidisc with a good quality analogue cable just as everyone used to before, when was it? 1994, 1995... not even 10 years ago. Home taping didn't kill music (heck, I even got my discs free from the school library, or 50p a time from the city one... and subsequently bought a good number of them), will mp3? Copy protection rarely works right... the Beatles tried it on vinyl, no dice. Macrovision can be defeated merely by using an old enough VCR. Playstations with a small, inexpensive chip. DVDs by a bit of freeware code. and so on and so forth.
If it comes to it, CD to MP3 or CD to CD copy can be acheived by the old method as well. Resurrect 2-speed ROM drive from dusty cupboard. Plug audio cable into sound card. Press "Record" in wave editor, press Play on CD drive (the days of fascia mounted controls!) and hope you've got the levels right - adjust if not. Sure it's only a 1-speed rip, and has a ~60db noise level, but it does the trick
Heck before I got the DVDROM drive a modification of that method (DVD player digi-out to ATRAC-R minidisc in short play, then minidisc to PC) had to be used to get MP3s of the tunes on a DVD single..

The only effective measure so far - against me anyway - is that both FM and DB radio have been locked down to a godawful 15khz treble response (DB was dreamt up donkeys years ago, i think it uses some kind of mp2 rather than mp3/ac3/etc, and FM was reduced in kind from about 19khz so you wouldnt notice the difference). It's like listening to the music with earmuffs on. Would take a decent tape copy over a direct capture of that. Noise can be removed but, despite the best hopes of compression systems like Mp3Pro and WMA (both of them = yuck), missing headroom can't be restored. Mp2 and mp3 are... tolerable... at around 16khz (or higher, with more bits), MD LP2 is much nicer at 17.6, audio cassette and ATRAC-R short play at 18-20khz even better. (original ATRAC 1, and LP4 - dont even go there)

I've got at least 200 proper, bought CDs which got turned into mp3s (or is that 250, 300?)... now probably the equivalent of 800-1000 via the internet, and when I have money and have listened to a few of them, maybe more purchases will occur..

blah.

PS anyone know of a way to get at the music on Gran Turismo 3? I just want the one track.. that rather unique version of Just a Day by Feeder.. the PS2 seems to do odd things to the EQ if you output to minidisc

[boss]

they always copy-protect albums by shit artists don't they? first it was the backstreet boys or n'sync(can't remember which) and now madonna.... maybe the record companies are doing us a favour! now they should copy protect jon bon jovi's albums.