Yes. I am referring to "solid" models with TBC features. You are talking about larger range of devices, something different.
Of course, but not significantly about the models I mentioned.
That's your (false) theory, as usual. You do not know what you dont know (me in this case). And nothing I wrote is false.
Of course there is not single best model, largely depends on the tapes. That's why we have several descks for different cases. We are talking here about specific models, but as usual you add your blah blah to put smoke in the eyes of the readers with useless (in this contest) technicalities
Are you serious? You said I did not read correctly the (false) staement in DigitalFAQ. Now you say the 9500 is not suggested?
In any case, explain and show why and how the S9500 is not good with real facts and capture samples highlighting the (immaginary) defects, rather than usual blah blah blah.
In the meantime you can look to the "image quality" and "stability, TBC strength, audio, etc," (as you wrote) of my captures.
Then we'll compare.
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The VR1100 has an edit setting, you have to use the smart picture button on the remote and and set it to "distinct". It's one of the differences between the Philips variant and the JVC versions where it's set in the menu. Once you do that the output will probably be very similar since they use the same mechanism 95% the same parts ICs as they are from the same generation, the philips (JVC) just has the SVHS and 3D DNR ICs tacked on + an added tape stabilizer thingy on the mechanism and maybe slightly differend head drum. The difference will mainly be in the 3D DNR/TBC function and S-video vs composite. (Provided neither of them suffer from issues with dropout masking like my VR1100 and HR-J681 do.)
I don't know for sure if it's true on all of the digipure TBC-equipped JVCs but at least on my S8600 the luma part of the 3D DNR is always active to some degree even when the TBC is turned off which can result in some ghosting - so if not using the TBC I prever to use a variant without TBC/DNR to avoid that.
(The VR1100 is closer to the JVC HR-S77xx / HR-S78xx models, It's the VR1000 that's the analogue to the HR-S7600).
The difference between EG/EK/E_ etc models are only non-relevant country-specific stuff like tuner/modulator as far as I know. MS/ME variants are different though since they are secam or multi-standard. There are also both made in EU and made in Japan variants of some models but idk if either is preferable to the other.
As for the 1998 models, the PAL HR-S8500 and 9500 are basically going to be the same for capture, only difference is in edit features, while the simpler PAL HR-S7500 does not feature the TBC/DNR function but also doesn't have the failure-prone dynamic drum. Annoyingly unlike in the later lineups the non-SVHS models in this and earlier lineups does not feature EDIT mode. -
Thanks for the info. I haven't even read the instructions yet. Unfortunately, I have a universal remote for a Philips VCR's and there is no equivalent to this button, and from the OSD I see that the default is AUTO.
Once you do that the output will probably be very similar since they use the same mechanism 95% the same parts ICs as they are from the same generation, the philips (JVC) just has the SVHS and 3D DNR ICs tacked on + an added tape stabilizer thingy on the mechanism and maybe slightly differend head drum. The difference will mainly be in the 3D DNR/TBC function and S-video vs composite. (Provided neither of them suffer from issues with dropout masking like my VR1100 and HR-J681 do.)
I don't know for sure if it's true on all of the digipure TBC-equipped JVCs but at least on my S8600 the luma part of the 3D DNR is always active to some degree even when the TBC is turned off which can result in some ghosting - so if not using the TBC I prever to use a variant without TBC/DNR to avoid that.
(The VR1100 is closer to the JVC HR-S77xx / HR-S78xx models, It's the VR1000 that's the analogue to the HR-S7600).Last edited by rgr; 16th Oct 2024 at 11:30.
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I don't know for sure if it's true on all of the digipure TBC-equipped JVCs but at least on my S8600 the luma part of the 3D DNR is always active to some degree even when the TBC is turned off which can result in some ghosting - so if not using the TBC I prever to use a variant without TBC/DNR to avoid that.
Other interesting thread: https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/395451-Chroma-mess
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The luma of the Philips is clipped on the whites. One cannot expect details/fine structures there. (The j672 is not clipped).
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This would explain why there is no overexposure in the upper left corner.
Nevertheless, I checked it on another video:
https://pasteboard.co/WxDLQ37d1PkA.png
https://pasteboard.co/awmnMZeQqJMm.png
or:
https://pasteboard.co/TAlT9rkTxywu.png
https://pasteboard.co/x7cliVY4oqDD.pngLast edited by rgr; 16th Oct 2024 at 14:42.
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rgr, I understand that probably because privacy you cannot provide a video sample to better analyze the case, but on my side is difficult to conclude. Maybe Sharc may have found a good explanation about the reason of a less detailed capture. Difficult to say more.
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Originally Posted by rgr
I'm amused at how you always try to use my own words against me. But you try too hard, and you don't make sense when you do it. That's not proper situational usage of that phrase. Just stop already. Why must you always be hostile?Want my help? Ask here! (not via PM!)
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I have never seen that head wear would blur a picture. I think we are just fooled by the oversharpened j672 picture.
Attached a quick'n dirty processing of the Philips picture. If one could have avoided the brights clipping the pictures would probably look much the same at the end.
@rgr: I don't know where the hard clipping at y=235 for the Philips comes from. Maybe it's your SW/editor, capture device, VCR player, passthrough device (if any). Brights clipping is an issue, see the .mpg attachement here for various VCRs (see the white text in the headline).
https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/414871-Best-VCR-opinion#post2738885
You could try to adjust the proc-amp settings and/or disable any "limiter" function in your workflow. Worst case you would have to insert an attenuator pad in the analog signal path. Depending where the clipping happens it may be a lost case though.
If you can't disable the oversharpening of the j672 I would probably spend little time trying to improve the levels setup of the Philips and do the rest in post.
Philips with little post processing (can't really fix the baked-in brights clipping of course):Last edited by Sharc; 17th Oct 2024 at 04:11.
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