MakeMKV

[biferi]

I have a DVD Movie and I just wanted to Descrypt the VOB File and put it on My Hard Drive.

DVDShrink Says it can not.

So I know about MakeMKV but I do not want to Convert it to Say MP4. Format I just want to Decrypt the VOB File.

Does MakeMKV let You just Decrypt or must You Convert to another Format?

[hech54]

No conversion. MakeMKV keeps exact, same original quality.

[flashandpan007]

As stated on videohelp: MakeMKV is your one-click solution to convert DVD, Blu-ray, UHD and AVCHD discs that you own into MKV. The only thing MakeMKV does - it remuxes/changes the video clips from the disk into a set of MKV files, preserving most information but not changing it in any way(no video and audio reconversion). The MKV format can store multiple video/audio tracks with all meta-information and preserve chapters. There are many players that can play MKV files nearly on all platforms. Decrypt complete Blu-rays and DVDs to HDD or stream directly to your network(UPnP). MakeMKV is FREE while in beta, get free MakeMKV key here. Full version costs $50.

[biferi]

OK so like DVD Decrypter left You with VOB Files MakeMKV will Leave You with MKV Files.

And just like My VOB Files are not Compressed the MKV Files are not Compressed.

So if it is not doing any Converting then why are they not as VOB Files?

DVDs have VOB Files on them.
If I Look on Google it Says MakeMKV Converts to MP4?

[davexnet]

OK so like DVD Decrypter left You with VOB Files MakeMKV will Leave You with MKV Files.

And just like My VOB Files are not Compressed the MKV Files are not Compressed.

So if it is not doing any Converting then why are they not as VOB Files?

DVDs have VOB Files on them.
If I Look on Google it Says MakeMKV Converts to MP4?

MakeMKV does not covert at all. It just remuxes the data into the MKV -
that's why it's called MAKE-MKV

[flashandpan007]

What are the words you type in google?

[Cornucopia]

Wrong, biferi.
DVDs and their resulting VOB files ARE compressed (MPEG2 video and usually AC3 audio). You can tell because their bitrate is 1.5-9 Mbps, whereas if you actually had uncompressed, it would be 270 Mbps (for SD files, much more for HD or UHD).
If you rip with MakeMKV, those too will be compressed the same way (MPEG2 video and usually AC3 audio).

MakeMKV only rips to MKV. Whatever Google search you did was mistaken.

And yes, if you are wanting to decrypt while ripping, DVDShrink cannot do that alone (if you have a live decryptor like AnyDVD running, then it would be no problem).
DVDDecryptor can save to VOBs, raw streams, or an ISO.


Scott

[Ronstang]

MakeMKV is the best solution for getting discs onto your hard drive without changing their quality....with one caveat....all individual streams become their own MKV file and you loose the ability to use the menu so you have to manually go through each file with your DVD in a player hooked to your TV and identify them one by one so you can properly name them. Not the end of the world but if you have over 1000 discs like me and care about extra material it can become a lot of work.

This is especially true if you are doing TV shows. The episodes are rarely in the menu order on the disc.....they can be in a different but standard order or random so you still can't just assume that title 1 is episode one and so forth.

[biferi]

I did Decrypt My DVDs with DVDShrink and it worked.

I just like Decrypting to VOB Files because when You put them on Say a Disc DVD Players and Blue Ray Players can Play the VOB Files.

Well I did Run MakeMKV on a DVD I had and after it was over I closed it.

And I went into My Output Folder I Selected and nothing is in here.

what is the Default MakeMKV Output Folder?

[usually_quiet]

what is the Default MakeMKV Output Folder?

C:\Users\username\.MakeMKV

[biferi]

Thanks to everybody for the help.

I was Thinking should I just Decrypt to MKV Files and not use other Programs that Decrypt to VOB Files?

I do Understand now that MKV Files are just like VOB Files.
MakeMKV is just Decrypting the Files.

But I like to do this?

I have a USB Hard Drive and I like to keep My DVDs on it so like I Say I Decrypt them and have just the VOB File.
And if I put that VOB Files on a USB Thumb Drive I can Play it on My TV or if I put My VOB Files on a DVD I can Play then in My DVD Player.

But if I Decrypt and have MKV Files can I do the same thing or are MKV Files not as Recognizable as VOB Files?

[Ronstang]

I keep MKV files on my phone when I travel. I can watch the movie directly on my phone or cast it to a TV wherever I am. If you have MKV files and modern equipment you can play them just about anywhere these days. All newer Smart TVs have built in video players that support MKV directly or they would not be able to direct play content from emby in the first place.

[usually_quiet]

I have a USB Hard Drive and I like to keep My DVDs on it so like I Say I Decrypt them and have just the VOB File.
And if I put that VOB Files on a USB Thumb Drive I can Play it on My TV or if I put My VOB Files on a DVD I can Play then in My DVD Player.

But if I Decrypt and have MKV Files can I do the same thing or are MKV Files not as Recognizable as VOB Files?

I haven't seen any DVD players that can play MKV files stored on a USB thumb drive or on a DVD.

Many smart TVs and Blu-ray players can play MKV files from a USB thumb drive if the video and audio contained in the MKV file are also supported.

[biferi]

Thanks to everybody for the help.
It all is working good for Me.

And I do Understand MPEG 2. File is the CODEC and the VOB File is the Container.

So I just can not Understand about this?

The Programs DVDDecrypter and DVDShrink and MakeMKV all just Decypt the DVDs.

When I did use DVDDecrypter and DVDShrink they would all leave Me with VOB Files.

But when I use MakeMKV it would leave Me with a MKV File.

And when I use MakeMKV and Select the Movie I want and Audio I want to be Decrypted I See it Says MPEG 2. is the Video File.

So it keeps the CODEC as MPEG 2. and just Decrypts it and just changes the Container from VOB to MKV.

But because it changes the Container from VOB to MKV I Thought it was a Type of Compression?

And now I know it is not a Compression but because it changes the Container from VOB to MKV what is it doing?

[Ronstang]

I'm really not sure what you are asking here. If you are just asking what is the difference in the change in container it is pretty simple...compatibility. MKV files play in almost anything these days. VOB files are broken into segments, usually around a GB large and require special codecs to play. I do not know about the present but in the past you were required to have a license to play DVDs and it is my understanding although I may be incorrecdt, it isone of the reasons Microsoft moved away from supporting what is essentially a dying/dead product.

There is no compression taking place. MakeMKV simply decrypts and them takes the individual VOB files and makes one video file. You loose the menu features of the DVD but you can now use your video on just about any platform....click and play.

One of the biggest benefits of MakeMKV for me is it strips out region coding so I can buy impossible to find content only available in Europe and have it on my server in a week.

[biferi]

This does have to do with Video Formats.

I just Converted a DVD Move to MPEG 4. H264 at a Bit Rat of 1,500 kbps and it Plays good on My Projector.

Then I Converted a 30 Minute TV Show to MPEG 4. H264 at a Bit Rate of 1,500 kbps and it wont Play on My Projector.

The Movie came out to be 1.16 GB and the TV Show came out to be 275 MB so what do You Think is going on?

[davexnet]

This does have to do with Video Formats.

I just Converted a DVD Move to MPEG 4. H264 at a Bit Rat of 1,500 kbps and it Plays good on My Projector.

Then I Converted a 30 Minute TV Show to MPEG 4. H264 at a Bit Rate of 1,500 kbps and it wont Play on My Projector.

The Movie came out to be 1.16 GB and the TV Show came out to be 275 MB so what do You Think is going on?

Look at the files' properties in mediainfo, detail (text) view and look at the similarities/differences

[Ai Haibara]

This does have to do with Video Formats.

I just Converted a DVD Move to MPEG 4. H264 at a Bit Rat of 1,500 kbps and it Plays good on My Projector.

Then I Converted a 30 Minute TV Show to MPEG 4. H264 at a Bit Rate of 1,500 kbps and it wont Play on My Projector.

The Movie came out to be 1.16 GB and the TV Show came out to be 275 MB so what do You Think is going on?

As I mentioned in your other topic: Your projector's manual should list the specifications an MKV must meet for the projector to be able to play the video. Make sure the videos don't exceed any of those specs, or re-encode the videos to match.

Or, as davexnet mentions, use MediaInfo to take a look at a video that does work, and re-encode the videos that don't play on your projector to match (every detail of) the videos that do play. Not just the codec or bitrate... everything.
(Edit: Well, except for filesize. Unless the projector has a hard limit on file sizes, in which case you'll still need to consult the manual to see whether or not that's the case.)

[hech54]

Everybody PLEASE stop wasting your time on time-wasters.

[biferi]

Thanks to everybody with helping Me Understand what the MKV File is.

I have use a Program Called Any Video Converter for a long Time now and it works good.

I would Say about a Week Ago I Loaded some of My Video Files into it to Convert to AVI Format.

It would do Say 6. of them and Shut Down and not do everything I Loaded into it.

So I Run it as ADMIN and it would just Shut Down and not do anything.

Si I Un Installed it and Re Installed it and no good.

I even went Online and got the New Version 1.7.5 and I Installed it and put back My Settings the way I like it.

After it Converts a File it Shuts Down on Me and Yes I have a Check in Open Output Folder After Converting.

So now it works but I want it to Open the Output Folder after it Converts a File like it did but it just Shuts Down.

Can anybody help is there a ways I can just Delete the Settings for this Program or something?

Thanks for the Time.

[hardy]

based on your original post you need something like dvdfab to bypass protections, it can also convert to mp4 which I do not suggest, strip the main movie as the original

they will appear as vob files then you just mux them together, I use MKVToolNix

mkv container is the best, mp4 is just meh

[Anonymous84]

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[spiritgumm]

I have essentially same question as original poster, although with a different premise. There's a standard dvd video on a blu-ray disc, and the only way to rip it is with MakeMKV. The result is standard dvd within an MKV container. I could extract or demux audio, video, and possibly subtitles files with mkvtoolnix, rename the suffixes to their correct formats (ie audio mkv to .ac3, etc), then remux with a dvd muxer. But is there a simpler method? I tried renaming the MKV file as .mpg, and tried .iso, but they weren't recognized by dvd programs. The goal is to get standard VOB files.

[Chris Hooper]

No conversion. MakeMKV keeps exact, same original quality.

I wish you were correct with that answer, but unfortunately you're not, Hech54.
The proof is right here:

General
Unique ID : 77710513387320379362954125602378630439 (0x3A76801EF97DEDD12F98773BA32A4527)
Complete name : C:\Users\chris\Videos\MakeMKV Rips\A1_t00.mkv
Format : Matroska
Format version : Version 2
File size : 1.89 GiB
Duration : 45 min 15 s
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 5 981 kb/s
Frame rate : 29.761 FPS
Encoded date : 2024-11-01 00:44:06 UTC
Writing application : MakeMKV v1.17.8 win(x64-release)
Writing library : libmakemkv v1.17.8 (1.3.10/1.5.2) win(x64-release)

Video
ID : 1
ID in the original source medium : 224 (0xE0)
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : Main@Main
Format settings : CustomMatrix / BVOP
Format settings, BVOP : Yes
Format settings, Matrix : Custom
Format settings, GOP : Variable
Codec ID : V_MPEG2
Codec ID/Info : MPEG 1 or 2 Video
Duration : 45 min 14 s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 5 783 kb/s
Maximum bit rate : 9 800 kb/s
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4:3
Frame rate mode : Variable
Frame rate : 29.761 FPS
Original frame rate : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS
Standard : Component
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.562
Time code of first frame : 00:59:59;00
Time code source : Group of pictures header
Stream size : 1.83 GiB (97%)
Language : English
Default : No
Forced : No
Color primaries : BT.601 NTSC
Transfer characteristics : BT.601
Matrix coefficients : BT.601
Original source medium : DVD-Video

Audio
ID : 2
ID in the original source medium : 189 (0xBD)128 (0x80)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Commercial name : Dolby Digital
Codec ID : A_AC3
Duration : 45 min 15 s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 192 kb/s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel layout : L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 62.1 MiB (3%)
Title : Stereo
Language : English
Service kind : Complete Main
Default : Yes
Forced : No
Original source medium : DVD-Video
Dialog Normalization : -27 dB
compr : 6.02 dB
dynrng : 6.02 dB
dsurmod : Not Dolby Surround encoded
dialnorm_Average : -27 dB
dialnorm_Minimum : -27 dB
dialnorm_Maximum : -27 dB

Menu
00:00:00.000 : en:Chapter 01
00:01:29.355 : en:Chapter 02
00:04:26.633 : en:Chapter 03
00:10:26.492 : en:Chapter 04
00:19:09.047 : en:Chapter 05
00:27:25.110 : en:Chapter 06
00:38:26.304 : en:Chapter 07
00:44:24.662 : en:Chapter 08


The MediaInfo directly from the disc and its iso file shows 29.97 FPS, but when I use MakeMKV to create an mkv file, it changes it to 29.761 which throws the audio out of sync;
so, *EH!*, sorry Hans. Wrong answer.

[ForSerious]

You seem to have encountered a bug on one specific DVD rip. Easily fixed with MKVToolNix. And again, no conversion happened. Just the meta data got a little off.

[Chris Hooper]

It happened on Disc 2 and 3, ForSerious. Probably more than that, but I gave up and went onto other movies and shows. I researched and tried everything possible, including of course MKVToolNix. Does not work.
I tried everything you could imagine. I spent weeks researching and talking to experts about it from all over the internet.
No one was able to help. They were completely perplexed. I went into details with them, which I'm not going to do again. Been there done that. LOL
The final answer I got was people saying, sorry about your luck, looks like you're going to have to try an alternative. LOL!
But Thank You for trying to help! I appreciate it, as I did with the dozens of others that had tried.

[flashandpan007]

I am interested. Could you upload the mkv file to google drive and send me the link per pm. I want to try my luck.

[Chris Hooper]

The audio falls out of sync when I de-interlace it using QTGMC, Flash.
That's the only method I use for De-interlacing. I've tried with AVISynth+ and FFmpeg, VapourSynth, and now I currently use Hybrid utilizing QTGMC.
Nothing works. It throws it all out of sync. I've tried demuxing, remuxing, tried audio time stamping via stretching using different audio programs, MKVToolNix, and so many other things. You name it. Nothing worked. Now keep in mind, if I de-interlace any other way, with any program using yadif, bwdif, znedi3, nnedi3, decomb, BLAH BLAH BLAH, I have no issues. It's the moment I try to de-interlace with QTGMC, which is the only way I want to de-interlace.
I've EASILY de-interlaced those files using things like HandBrake, FFmpeg via a script, and several others; no problems at all; but the second I try to use QTGMC, it goes out of sync. No matter how I go about de-interlacing with QTGMC.
If MakeMKV wouldn't mess up the FPS on those files, I'd be able to De-Interlace with no issues like I do everything else.
That's why I said what I said to Heck54. Because if it did what it was supposed to, like so many people claim, make exact copies of the original, then the FPS wouldn't change from 29.970030 to 29.761 like it shows before and after using MakeMKV.

[Chris Hooper]

Here's a link to one of the files.

https://1drv.ms/v/c/fd0d7e8f253b6e5b/EQrzp07oi0ZCn24wRc8hZhkBv6dJPVMX5vGel9PFjVG_XQ?e=azG2cu

[davexnet]

The audio falls out of sync when I de-interlace it using QTGMC, Flash.
That's the only method I use for De-interlacing. I've tried with AVISynth+ and FFmpeg, VapourSynth, and now I currently use Hybrid utilizing QTGMC.
Nothing works. It throws it all out of sync. I've tried demuxing, remuxing, tried audio time stamping via stretching using different audio programs, MKVToolNix, and so many other things. You name it. Nothing worked. Now keep in mind, if I de-interlace any other way, with any program using yadif, bwdif, znedi3, nnedi3, decomb, BLAH BLAH BLAH, I have no issues. It's the moment I try to de-interlace with QTGMC, which is the only way I want to de-interlace.
I've EASILY de-interlaced those files using things like HandBrake, FFmpeg via a script, and several others; no problems at all; but the second I try to use QTGMC, it goes out of sync. No matter how I go about de-interlacing with QTGMC.
If MakeMKV wouldn't mess up the FPS on those files, I'd be able to De-Interlace with no issues like I do everything else.
That's why I said what I said to Heck54. Because if it did what it was supposed to, like so many people claim, make exact copies of the original, then the FPS wouldn't change from 29.970030 to 29.761 like it shows before and after using MakeMKV.

What source filter did you use in your Avisynth script?