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  1. Hi all,

    It has been too long since I have been on the forums. Quick question that I hope can be answered.

    I shot a bunch of 4K video with my Panasonic HC-WX970K 4K Ultra-HD camcorder. I then loaded the movies onto my hard drive and burned them to a Blu Ray disc and stuck the disc in my stand alone Blu Ray player and got disc cannot be played. I did some research and found a few other couldn't get the raw video of the WX970k (4K) onto a Bluray and have it play correctly on a player.

    I think I need to comfort the raw file to another format? Any ideas? As far as software to do that what is suggested. I have the Pioneer Slim External Blu Ray Writer BDR-XD05B and used the software (power2go) to burn and it didn't play back.

    Thanks for any help!

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    Stand alone boxes (except one) do not play UHD. They play HD or lower resolution
    You will have to down res your video to play on a set top box
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  3. Thanks.

    So if I got a 4K hd DVD player these would play although would not be full resolution if it's on 1080p tv correct?

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  4. Originally Posted by RubicksCube13 View Post
    So if I got a 4K hd DVD player these would play
    There's no guaranty a 4K player will play random 4K files on data discs. You'll have to find one that supports the feature, the container your camera uses, and the encoder settings.

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    although would not be full resolution if it's on 1080p tv correct?
    Yes.
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  5. What is your motivation for burning the videos to bluray? If your goal is to simply find a way to play the video from your new 4K UHD player then why not put the files on a usb stick?
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    Originally Posted by RubicksCube13 View Post
    Thanks.

    So if I got a 4K hd DVD player these would play although would not be full resolution if it's on 1080p tv correct?

    Cube!
    I remembered looking at Samsung's UBD-K85004K for a different thread and still had the downloaded manual. It can play 4K media files from burned Blu-ray discs and USB storage devices, but like all hardware-based players, it has restrictions on what it can play, although the manual does not go into great detail on that subject. There is no way to be sure if files from your camera will play without trying it. It is a not cheap solution.

    UHD files would be downscaled to 1080p for a 1080p TV.
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  7. My goal is to save these to blu Ray as my memory cards are getting full as well as save them to discs for future use. These are new born videos. I thought the best way to archive them outside of a hard drive was disc. Pretty much just looking to have back up for many years down the line and Blu Ray discs are fairly cheap now a days.

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    Originally Posted by RubicksCube13 View Post
    My goal is to save these to blu Ray as my memory cards are getting full as well as save them to discs for future use. These are new born videos. I thought the best way to archive them outside of a hard drive was disc. Pretty much just looking to have back up for many years down the line and Blu Ray discs are fairly cheap now a days.

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    Blu-ray is not a long-term storage solution. I would plan on migrating to something else in 5 to 10 years.
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  9. Originally Posted by RubicksCube13 View Post
    My goal is to save these to blu Ray as my memory cards are getting full as well as save them to discs for future use. These are new born videos. I thought the best way to archive them outside of a hard drive was disc. Pretty much just looking to have back up for many years down the line and Blu Ray discs are fairly cheap now a days.

    Thanks!
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    That is two different goals then: 1) burning to bluray to play on your UHD player, and 2) burning to bluray for long term storage. FWIW, I archive all my master videos to dual layer Bluray as well. But I don't play them. They are for archive purposes only. I agree that it is an affordable option which is why I went that route. In fact, I no longer use hard drives for long term storage.

    Also, be careful with using memory cards for long term storage. They are notoriously flaky and can can fail at any time without any prior warning. I regularly back up all my devices' memory cards just to be safe.
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    Originally Posted by usually_quiet View Post
    Originally Posted by RubicksCube13 View Post
    My goal is to save these to blu Ray as my memory cards are getting full as well as save them to discs for future use. These are new born videos. I thought the best way to archive them outside of a hard drive was disc. Pretty much just looking to have back up for many years down the line and Blu Ray discs are fairly cheap now a days.

    Thanks!
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    Blu-ray is not a long-term storage solution. I would plan on migrating to something else in 5 to 10 years.
    I disagree. It is just as long term as any other electronic backup/archival storage medium (which granted isn't saying much - ALL formats should be re-evaluated within a decade or two for continued reliability & access).

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    Originally Posted by Cornucopia View Post
    Originally Posted by usually_quiet View Post
    Blu-ray is not a long-term storage solution. I would plan on migrating to something else in 5 to 10 years.
    I disagree. It is just as long term as any other electronic backup/archival storage medium (which granted isn't saying much - ALL formats should be re-evaluated within a decade or two for continued reliability & access).

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    The OP said "Pretty much just looking to have back up for many years down the line and Blu Ray discs are fairly cheap now a days." I don't think "many years down the line" is a realistic expectation for Blu-Ray, especially if you are using the cheapest discs. ...and I use Blu-ray for storage!

    BD-R manufacture is consolidating as DVD has done, leaving fewer high-quality products on the market. Panasonic BD-R (hard to find outside of Japan and not cheap) is the only brand that passed independent artificial aging tests for archival use. Verbatim BD-R burns well, but didn't do well in that same test.

    BD burner manufacturing is down to to three companies: Pioneer, LG and Panasonic.

    BD-R 25GB is the most durable burnable BD format. 4K demands higher capacity storage, which means BD-R DL and higher. Multi-layer burnable optical media is less durable than single layer. (If you don't believe me, ask lordsmurf.) Again Panasonic BD-R DL is the only BD-R DL product that a lot of people trust for archival use, but I doubt it is as good for that as Panasonic BD-R.
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