Whose Got A Mitsubishi HS-HD2000U I Can Buy?

[redshirt]

I'm looking to get the Mitsubishi HS-HD2000U D-VHS VCR for plain VHS capture to my computer and I'm pretty desperate to find a place or person that still might have one unopened or hardly used.

I've been outbid on eBay numerous times and I'm still skeptical of most of the "AS-IS" sales of these VCR's on eBay anyway.

Maybe there's someone you know that has one to sell or a small business that doesn't have it advertised on the web. Any help is appreciated.

Tom

[SHS]

I've been outbid on eBay numerous times and I'm still skeptical of most of the "AS-IS" sales of these VCR's on eBay anyway.

Sound like to me you not desperate enough to folk out any really cash you want something for nothing and a used one will usely run $400+
The Rules at eBay if want it that bad bid high really high and make you bid at last 10/15 sec
Any thing you buy used is pettey much AS-IS

Well try here
http://www.walts.com/ce/HS-HD2000U.html
http://www.amazon.com/Mitsubishi-VHS-SVHS-Digital-HS-HD2000U/dp/B000BDBJRO

[redshirt]

Okay, I went up to $240 on a used "as-is" Mitsubishi HS-HD2000U from one of those iSoldit eBay storefronts. That's not something for nothing and that was real cash I could have paid. $240 for a used vcr these days when analog tuners are going away is not unreasonable.

I kicked myself for not buying one unopened on eBay at $365. But, I'm not sure I'd go $400 unless it was unopened. It might be worth it, but I'm not that hard-core on the video transfer stuff. I'm just looking to transfer some family VHS tapes with the best possible scenario without busting my budget. I'm hoping to get some TBC and filters in a SVHS machine. I think that's doable if I know what sellers on eBay are trustworthy.

I did call Walt's but they are still $699. I can't justify that much. Amazon has used ones too at $399/$499, higher than eBay sells used.

I'm patiently watching eBay unless anyone has some answers or suggestions. And yes, I thoroughly read Lordsmurf's FAQ's etc. and am using that treasured information in my eBay watching.

[Captain Satellite]

Supply and demand, brother; up your bid or keep losing.

Anybody buying a VCR for transferring tapes is not the least bit concerned with the tuner. They're also not purchasing them to time shift programming any longer.

You have a situation now where everybody wants to purchase a quality VCR to archive their tapes to DVD. Don't be surprised if high end VCRs go for even more in the future than they do now. I bought about 20 of them a few years back when everybody was getting rid of them.

Get 'em while you can.

[disturbed1]

I did call Walt's but they are still $699. I can't justify that much. Amazon has used ones too at $399/$499, higher than eBay sells used.

I think you're seeing this unit as just a VCR, and is the reason you can't justify the high price of it. Using the same logic is like saying a Lambo is just a car .

The DVHS units can be highly useful for HDTV capture from your cable company's STB, for example.

[themaster1]

I don't think there is much difference bewteen d-vhs and s-vhs decks for transfering a vhs.As far as JVC is concerned, they all got the digipure tech.

for 240$ u can get a very good s-vhs player

[redshirt]

I bought about 20 of them a few years back when everybody was getting rid of them.

Smart move! Are you selling any?

I don't think there is much difference bewteen d-vhs and s-vhs decks for transfering a vhs.As far as JVC is concerned, they all got the digipure tech.

for 240$ u can get a very good s-vhs player

Is there a more recent JVC SVHS model that is less likely to have been passed around more than a cheap date? I'll take any suggestions. I was considering the JVC S9911U, but that tends to run high too.

[disturbed1]

If you can get one the used JVC decks at a decent price ($150-$200) you can always take it to the repair shop and have it serviced, and walk away with an almost brand new unit for ~$275.

I got sick of trying to find a decent SVHS deck with built in TBC/DNR, opted for an updated brand new JVC $120 SVHS model, outboard TBC ($150) and a Vidicraft Detailer II ($50). The Vidicraft and TBC will most likely last forever, the SVHS deck will fail. To be honest, in the last 100 tapes I've transfered, the TBC was used twice, the Vidicraft was used 80-90% of the time. These were a mixture of VHS/VHS-C/ and SVHS camcorder movies. I learned rather quickly, a TBC is nice to have, but rarely if ever used. I would have to dig through some boxes just to find it right now.

Here's a good post about what one expects a TBC to do, and in reality what they do.
https://forum.videohelp.com/topic344737.html#1812653

[Endzone]

Supply and demand, brother; up your bid or keep losing.

Anybody buying a VCR for transferring tapes is not the least bit concerned with the tuner. They're also not purchasing them to time shift programming any longer.

You have a situation now where everybody wants to purchase a quality VCR to archive their tapes to DVD. Don't be surprised if high end VCRs go for even more in the future than they do now. I bought about 20 of them a few years back when everybody was getting rid of them.

Get 'em while you can.

Well my ideal machine just arrived by priority mail today. It was JVC HR-S9600U. I paid $190 on Ebay plus another $32 for shipping. I remember a time a few years ago when these units would go for $350 on Ebay. I was really happy to get it, and I was fortunate that the unit was in excellent condition. The guy really took care of it. You can get a grip on who you're dealing with if you send enough emails. I cleaned up the heads, and this machine just plays a great picture. The record and playback in S-VHS is just great. VHS is very good too. You can find the right seller on Ebay.

[Endzone]

Responding to wrong post.

[Endzone]

I bought about 20 of them a few years back when everybody was getting rid of them.

Smart move! Are you selling any?

I don't think there is much difference bewteen d-vhs and s-vhs decks for transfering a vhs.As far as JVC is concerned, they all got the digipure tech.

for 240$ u can get a very good s-vhs player

Is there a more recent JVC SVHS model that is less likely to have been passed around more than a cheap date? I'll take any suggestions. I was considering the JVC S9911U, but that tends to run high too.

Check out this machine. Nobdoy has even bid on it yet. It looks to be in great shape.

http://cgi.ebay.com/JVC-HR-S9800U-Pro-S-VHS-Video-Cassette-Recorder_W0QQitemZ270218868...QQcmdZViewItem

Here's a screen shot of the JVC HR-S9600U playing to a Canopus ADVC110 and the program I'm using is Roxio Media Creator 9.1. I got tired of waiting for a zoom shot because that would show better just how clear the video is. It is crystal clear on my TV and crystal clear on my computer screen after the digital conversion.

[redshirt]

If I buy a used machine like the JVC S9600U (supposed to be a workhorse).

Questions:
1. What can I expect to pay to have it serviced, if it's been really used?
2. Is there some things that can't be fixed on these old machines?
3. What's the best dealer to have them serviced at (I'm in Wisconsin)?

Tom

[redshirt]

Holy smokes! I just got my Mitsubishi HS-HD2000U today and tested it against my low-end consumer Panasonic 4 head vcr and the difference is amazing!! The TBC on the Mitsubishi stabilzed all the wavering in the video image to a rock solid image and the image was also cleaned up with NONE of the background noise I was getting before.

Absolutely amazing!!

Thanks for all the help everyone.

Tom

[mikejaz2]

Can anyone explain to me how to get vhs/svhs out of the HD2000U through the firewire port? I can hook it up to my HDTV and they communicate, but try as I might, I cannot seem to get video through the FW cable into my Final Cut edit system. And the manual (written in some strange Japanese-English hybrid) is absolutely no help (except to say that you can't hook it up to a PC).

Thanks in advance

[mrwhitethc]

I've never hooked my HD2000U up to firewire, however if I remember correctly only the JVC DH3000U did VHS/SVHS out the firewire, because it would need an internal MPEG2 encoder. If you record off your Sat dish or cable box with firewire out to a DVHS tape, then you can use the firewire out on the HD2000U to record the transport stream to PC. You would use DVHS Tool to do it. There should be a bunch of info on using DVHS tool around the AVS Forum. I mostly use this deck for VHS transfers and yes it does indeed rock.

[mikejaz2]

Thank you. At last, some information about exactly WHY the HS HD2000 won't output thru firewire. Had I known this, I would have never bought the unit. But at least I know what and why, and that's worth the price of re-selling the unit.

Again, thank you.

[redshirt]

Mike,

Did you try running the HD2000U through your camcorder into Final Cut or iMovie? That might work.

Tom

[mikejaz2]

thanks. My camcorder doesn't have bi-directional FW capability. I could try running a line into it, but even if if could see something, I'd have to lay it off to tape, then re-capture it into FCP. Not what I want to do. I'll just buy the JVC SR-MV45US...it does what I need, and I'll have a DVD recorder for quick window dubs for clients.

[orsetto]

If you can get one the used JVC decks at a decent price ($150-$200) you can always take it to the repair shop and have it serviced, and walk away with an almost brand new unit for ~$275.

Maybe yes, maybe no. Every JVC SVHS I've had serviced over the last 20 years was never as good as when it was new and the repairs never "held" for more than a few weeks. Those in the market for a good TBC/DNR deck should bear in mind vintage JVC SVHS is a "curse" for some people- I'm not alone by any means. There is no grey area with JVC SVHS units: you either have a perfect experience with them every time, or they flatline on you, every time. In my opinion it is unwise to buy a used JVC SVHS with expectation of servicing it to "like new" condition. If you absolutely must have a JVC, look for the newer JVC DVHS model 400 which doesn't sell used for much more than a used JVC SVHS. The JVC DVHS has a MUCH better mechanical reliability track record. Alternatively, the equivalent Mitsubishi HS-HD2000U DVHS is damn near bulletproof. I run mine almost 24/7, for two years now, with not a single hiccup.

I got sick of trying to find a decent SVHS deck with built in TBC/DNR, opted for an updated brand new JVC $120 SVHS model, outboard TBC ($150) and a Vidicraft Detailer II ($50). The Vidicraft and TBC will most likely last forever, the SVHS deck will fail. To be honest, in the last 100 tapes I've transfered, the TBC was used twice, the Vidicraft was used 80-90% of the time. These were a mixture of VHS/VHS-C/ and SVHS camcorder movies. I learned rather quickly, a TBC is nice to have, but rarely if ever used. I would have to dig through some boxes just to find it right now.

You have a good point in the idea of separating the TBC and Proc Amp from the VCR, so if the VCR goes south you can more easily replace it. However, in practice this does not always work out the way we hope it would. Newbies should be aware that there is a reason we all chase the rare VCR with built-in TBC/DNR: they don't sell for inflated prices for nothing. The term "built in TBC/DNR" bandied about by VCR mfrs is a bit of a misnomer: these built-in circuits do not really function the same way external TBC boxes do. The internal TBC of high-end SVHS or DVHS VCRs taps the raw signal directly off the video heads BEFORE it is converted into a viewable format, and in tandem with the DNR circuit cleans away all kinds of crud like cable TV distortions, luminance noise, chroma noise, etc. You do NOT get this cleaning function with outboard boxes. On the other hand, the internal TBC/DNR does nothing to synchronize the signal: this can be a big problem when dubbing to older DVD recorders and some PC encoder boards. If you experience picture blackouts and/or loss of lip sync even with a high end VCR, you will need to add an outboard TBC. Depending on your VHS tape quality and your DVD recorder/PC you may need one, the other, or BOTH types of TBC. VHS-to-digital is a tricky business and we each have to experiment.

[redshirt]

I use EyeTV200 to take my videos in. You can get it used for $199 through Elgato.com

It has a hardware encoder (less taxing to older computers) and inputs some better compression options than the EyeTV250.

Tom

[Celticseer2009]

I have one-purchased a couple of years ago-but never hooked up-have the manuals and such...

[lordsmurf]

Spamming a year-old thread?
Maybe post it here: http://www.digitalfaq.com/forum/forumdisplay.php/marketplace-43.html
Or try eBay.

[Irish 1965]

I have exactly what you're looking for. Where are you located? I'm in Huntington Beach, California and have a pristine unit available for $350.00.

[redshirt]

I appreciate the offer but I did get a brand new one from someone that got it bundled with a plasma TV awhile back. They work super nice too. Pretty good stabilization for the price.

[Irish 1965]

By the way, if you're a Star Trek fan I have all 7 videos of the movies for sale for $35.00 Theyre all in excellent shape and were part of a collection/estate of a friend. There also a couple of books if memory serves me.

Irish 1965