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  1. Hi,

    my friend told me that nowadays movie dvds have this feature which when ripped, it will somehow be recorded and there are ways to check how many times it has been ripped.

    May I know if this is true? If I've got a dvd, is there some software to check how many times it has been ripped?

    Thanks!
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    Nope, pure myth. I guess to add, the laser on a DVD player isn't strong enough to do any writing on the disc.

    And commercial discs are pressed not burned, same as a LP record. Nothing there to write to.
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    I really don't think dvd's have that capability, however, it's one way to curb piracy.
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    Ditto.

    These are DVD ROMS! READ ONLY MEMORY. That means there is no way to write to it. Its a playback device. You can't retrieve or embedd any information into it. It's not like a credit card or something that can be accessed. The hollywood movies are fixed in the recording - no rewriting is possible.
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  5. Never heard of it. Would of heard about lawsuits by the MPAA by now.
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    Originally Posted by quarkz
    Hi,

    my friend told me that nowadays movie dvds have this feature which when ripped, it will somehow be recorded and there are ways to check how many times it has been ripped.

    May I know if this is true? If I've got a dvd, is there some software to check how many times it has been ripped?

    Thanks!
    Heck I know people who think you can record over a store bought music CD.

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    I know that guy!!! He's the one that told me "They figured out a way to watch you over your TV set".
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  9. I was told that if you wear a tin foil hat when ripping, there's no way they can trace it back to the person who's done it.

    But on a slightly more serious note, I suppose it may be possible to manufacture a DVD with a part of it that is writeable, so that attempts to copy it could be noted. Almost anything's possible, but would anyone really go to all that trouble and expense, when it would be virtually impossible to prove who had actually tried to copy the disc. Apart from that, in a lot of places it isn't illegal to copy media if it's for back up purposes.

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    Heck I know people who think you can record over a store bought music CD.
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    When I was 6, I tried to record onto a vinyl record, but it was a long time ago. I'm alright now and have got the paperwork to prove it.
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    Wow, tt's a nice gadget!
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    I suppose it may be possible to manufacture a DVD with a part of it that is writeable, so that attempts to copy it could be noted.
    Think you'll have to teach the DVD Reader to become a DVD Writer first....

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    The only concept that comes closest to what the original poster mentions is the old "divx" system from Circuit City. That was where you "bought" a disc but paid to watch it whenever you popped it in the special divx player. Remember this was a real dvd but locked to only play when you paid - that is where the codec DIVX got its name
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    I almost bought one of those Circuit City players. Seems like the DVDs were about $9US or less, so it sounded good.

    But I fortunately came to my senses in time.

    I'm sure if the movie companies could come up with a way to 'mark' the DVDs or completely stop backups, they would. I would bet they have been scheming on several approaches to the problem for some time.
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    Originally Posted by 12Quidkidinnit
    I was told that if you wear a tin foil hat when ripping, there's no way they can trace it back to the person who's done it.

    But on a slightly more serious note, I suppose it may be possible to manufacture a DVD with a part of it that is writeable, so that attempts to copy it could be noted. Almost anything's possible, but would anyone really go to all that trouble and expense, when it would be virtually impossible to prove who had actually tried to copy the disc. Apart from that, in a lot of places it isn't illegal to copy media if it's for back up purposes.
    "The way I see it is that there is no right or wrong" way to copy media.
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    Originally Posted by quarkz
    Hi,

    my friend told me that nowadays movie dvds have this feature which when ripped, it will somehow be recorded and there are ways to check how many times it has been ripped.

    May I know if this is true? If I've got a dvd, is there some software to check how many times it has been ripped?

    Thanks!
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    DVDs have always been able to due this using fractal imaging. This was done in order to get the HD protection up and running, which uses planar geometry to access the MID codes on the DVD. As such nothing is copiable.
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    I suppose it may be possible to manufacture a .... with a part of it that is writeable, so that attempts to copy it could be noted.
    This is one reason solid-state media will oust discs, in the future.
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    Not only is it TRUE, but these disks today will even phone home to report this security breach. If you don't have a modem, it will actually call home using your telephone at night, when you are asleep. If you don't have a phone, it will use your neighbor's phone (incidious little bastards, these new disks)!

    Once it has properly reported your transgressions, it will proceed to corrupt the data on any DVD Recordable media that you might have (this is the REAL reason for so many of the "my DVD that I burned from Finding Nemo doesn't play very well" reports that you see here).

    It will also erase all of your floppies (if you still have them...).

    It will also cause the food to spoil in your refrigerator.
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    Amazon.com tried the rentals that killed themselves when exposed to air.

    Heck, I rented one, ripped it - of course - to see if I could.

    You never know when you might want to watch it again.
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    >>>>>EDIT<<<<<<
    Wow, the 1st half of my post just disappeared!

    What I said was:
    Maybe what the OP's "friend" was awkwardly referring to was an autorun ROOTKIT.
    Loads itself, counts # of times played/used and checks for "bad" ripping programs.
    'Course, all it takes is 1 GOOD RIP (especially if bypassing the rootkit installation in the 1st place):P
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    Plus, you could always use other computers...

    Even that method is silly and futile.
    Thankfully, this site helps us all avoid aggravations like that!

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    A few years ago 321 Studio, as a way of avoiding prosecution, changed their ripping software so that a commercial DVD once ripped, could not be ripped again. Since this software was widely circulated and advertised as having this feature, quite a few people still think ripping software marks the disk and indicates it as a rip.
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    Originally Posted by cal_tony
    A few years ago 321 Studio, as a way of avoiding prosecution, changed their ripping software so that a commercial DVD once ripped, could not be ripped again.
    It could not be ripped again with 321 Studio ripper (DVDXCopy). But it could be ripped with other rippers. It could even be copied without a ripper since the original rip had removed the protection.

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    A few years ago 321 Studio, as a way of avoiding prosecution
    And we know how that avoiding prosecution thing worked out for them.
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