How To Capture Using ATI 9600 All In Wonder

[grama]

OK folks hopefully you can help me here!!!

Me And My father have been trying for close to a year now to get solid video quality from capturing video from an ATI AIW 9600 AGP Card and we have been using pinnacle studio 8 ait edition with the patch but so far unless we burn out of studio 8 (which is buggy) we don't get clean video... we have tried to use avid free dv, adobe premiere 1.5 and 2, sony vegas 6.0c and are going to try avid xpress pro as soon as it comes in. No matter wut I use for editing, the end result is always gross and jittery, so I was wondering.... what programs should I use to capture the video??? I want to know because we are just about ready to give up (don't say Windows Movie MAker.... looks really really bad) so what are the suggestions??? What works well that is free, that isn't free, let me know if the program that you suggest is free and please don't suggest it unless you know that it will work with the 9600 AIW card. THANKS for all and anyhelp!!!

P.S. What codecs should I use with that program???

[ZAPPER]

Check out this guys site and read all you can stand and then read some more. It might help you figure out your card, programs and the methods to get some things done.

http://digitalfaq.com/dvdguides/capture/atiavi/atiavi.htm



ATIAIW is sometimes a tough cookie to crack, so you may have to take it one crumb at a time.

[Bigdaddybrat]

Probably the easiest way is to capture using ATi's media Center. What are you copying the video from an old super 8? VHS?... I have done some basic captures just using the inputs that were supplied with the AIW card and recorded while I watched... a little slow but did the trick with a fairly good capture... just make sure that when you record it is at the quality you are looking for... ie... if it is old VHS tape you could try capturing with the DVD quality but you may not gain anything... its kind of a trial and error thing.

If you are transfuring from a DV try this link that was posted recently on the form...

https://forum.videohelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=296843

I'm surprized about some of the progams that you mentioned still gave you poor video (Except for Pinnacale... its a piece of crap...don't even bother with their liquid stuff its crap too)...

What kind of system do you have...what programs are you running in the background? how much RAM? Are you using a single hard drive or +2? alot of these factors can come into play. I have friends in the biz and they run Avid Express Pro... with min. 2gigs of ram, a 500 gig hd partitioned into 10 partitions each holding different information on them. Usually with a P4 at 3.# ghtz. and the computer is loaded with the bare bones programs that they need to do the editing.

There is a lot of really good info on these forums... that may help alot.

hope some of this helped.

[whitejremiah]

virtualdub+huffyuv, ideally is probably THE best way to go, i'd say, mind you that will chew up your harddrive space REALLY fast and you will end up having to convert the output to a differant format to make any real use of it. If you try to capture directly to mpeg with this particular card, it will affect the output quality rather drastically....if you cant afford the hdd space for huffyuv, you may try either mjpg or even as of late, you can reasonably use divx on the fastest or second fastest settings as a nice alternitive...and yes, the source has a lot of say in how the output will be....another thing to factor in, is the cables...ideally you want to use svideo, if that's not available, use decent RCA cables (gold plated if at all possible...and dont go and spend a fortune on monster cables, either, they are quite honestly only mid range cables that they charge high prices for) If your trying to convert VHS tapes or something like that, you may consider a TBC, as they can fix quite a few issues with quality if the original video is flawed......if say, your just trying to record something directly from tv or a DVR, you can get away without one.....there's a fair chunk of things that need to be factored in, and for us to help you out completely, we need a very complete description of your setup and what your intending to do.....

[Fos]

I use Virtual VCR and 0 a/v sync problems.Active theMaster Stream ->Audio for keep the audio and video synchronized

[Nelson37]

1. What is the source you are capturing? Very important.

2. How is it connected to the ATI card?

3. What do the captures look like BEFORE any editing or burning? Extremely important. Everything starts here.

4. What are you using to preview the video? Many progs do not accurately playback captured video.

5. What codec are you using? This will dictate further procedures.

6. What program is used to encode to MPG?

7. Why are you not using the MMC that came with the card and is designed to work with it?

There are several steps to this process. In order to refine it, you need to determine quality at EACH stage in order to pinpoint and resolve the issue.

Best source possible, connected through S-video. Field order and framerate and resolution must be determined. Best capture is with MMC or Vdub to uncompressed or Huffy. Best preview with Vdub (free). Real-time MPG thru MMC can come very close to AVI cap and re-encode with proper settings.

Your description of "gross" does not provide much useful information. However, "jittery" is a common description of improper field order, and/or dropped frames. First one is easily solved, second one depends on source and hard drive speed, among some other factors.

[INFRATOM]

What are you capturing TV or video from another source. If from a camcorder, firewire or feed through would be #1 choice. I got good results using Ulead SW. AIW is good for capturing TV. I use svideo its also ok for TV capture. Many say Video recorder overall is easiest.