Annoying Poster Habits And Other Annoying Things That Annoy (Title Change)

[lordsmurf]

p.s. I'm not attacking you LS, I just find your comments in that last post a little puzzling that's all 8)

Prepare to be more puzzled.

I agree with this:

one thing I don't like to see on forums are the people who do give grief to those who ask dumb questions when they could quite easily just ignore it, or even stoop as low as correcting grammar/spelling but in an insulting manner.

These sort of people don't need harassing. I suggest one of 3 options:

(1) Totally ignore it.

(2) For bad grammar posts maybe say "I'd like to help, but I cannot understand you. Try to use complete sentences, lay off the net-speak, and trying correct English spelling/grammar. Until then, not much I can suggest. If English is your second language, please say so, and I'll try to work with you."

(3) For dumb question posts. "Read the guides. Search the forums. What you asked is already answered in those locations. If you have furth, more detailed questions, come back and ask those."

I see nothing wrong with this. Being uneducated is fine. I'm not educated in many things. But I can learn. A "dumbass" is a person unwilling to learn.

[Supreme2k]

(2) For bad grammar posts maybe say "I'd like to help, but I cannot understand you. Try to use complete sentences, lay off the net-speak, and trying correct English spelling/grammar. Until then, not much I can suggest. If English is your second language, please say so, and I'll try to work with you."

For that, you will get one of two responses:

1. I'm trying to copy DVD, azzh0!3. I'm not in scool here.

2.Not all people live in america. we don't care how you speak. you can't tell every body what 2 do.


Dv8ted2,
You'll see them soon enough. They come in cycles sometimes.

[MackemX]

@LS, I'm not puzzled at all as now I understand the point you were making before as that's one of the best approaches to take in your list of 3 things 8).

You are one who is prepared to listen and help in the first place whereas some just like to jump on people trying to correct them for their grammar/spelling or general conduct but do so in the wrong way without even offering any help

if you push people in the right direction then in my experiences of helping people, be it on the internet or in real life most ain't dumbasses, it's just some people are slow to grasp new things . If people ain't willing to put a little effort in from their end then I'll just say so and go help someone who is willing to listen and learn. I do this in real life also, for example I'm the guy everyone comes to for PC maintenance (in fact basically anything that works on electricty ) and it's amazing how little some people know about PC's or even setting the clock on a VCR . I guess on occasions depending who it is I can just ignore the fact that some people won't seem to learn stuff even if I spend hours with them.

even my mother tries my patience sometimes when I show her something on a PC I can do with my eyes closed and hands tied behind my back but she just can't quite grasp it yet she's a very knowledgable person that would put me to shame in quite a few other fields. Same goes for my mechanic mate as trying to show him how to play a CD on his PC, never mind trying to make a backup was a big test of my patience

[Noahtuck]

Peeps thet put thare avatar in the "siggy" field instead of whare the dayum thang iz spozed ta bee...

yo diggity, that's cuz they told me my avatar was "innapropriate"! (although I had received many compliments on it...)
da sig pic has always been there, but I'll change it juz fo u big daddy.
HOLLA BACK!

here's the old sig pic


it has been replaced now, along with the rest of the signature :P

Keep it straight yo!!

[smearbrick1]

People who invent and use words like "expectorations".

What the hell does that mean?

Kind of sounds like the end result of administering an expectorant.

In other words: small chuncks or phlegm.

[Doramius]

My pet peeves:

People who are graduated from highschool that still can't spell and don't use spell check.

People who are graduated from highschool and still say words like:
-I'm going to the LIBARY.
-Can I AKS you a QUECH-TON?
-IS you going to the bar?

People Who have not graduated from highschool who expect people that have to cater to them and understand them as if we all know what they are talking about.

People who constantly ask you for $1 when they've asked you 3 times everyday for the past year, and the answer has always been "NO".

People who HUNT-N-PECK at the keyboard and send a long a** email in 45 min. that could have been condensed to 1 or 2 paragraphs and typed in less than 3 min.

People who think they are computer gurus and understand everything about them, when the most frequent activity they've done with it phisically is turn it on or off; and the most heavily used program is Microsoft WORD followed only by EXCEL.
(I've built computers, run tons of networking programs and worked with tons of other software s**t. I still come up against something I don't know how to use; Or It's a program I haven't used in nearly 3 years and I barely remember how it works)

Hispanic people who live in the US that get pissed because there is no translator for them when they walk into a store. (DON'T SHOP AT OFFICE MAX ANYMORE YOU FAT & PRUNY HOOKER. GO BACK TO MEXICO AND SELL YOUR DRY AND CRUSTY HOLE FOR $5 US AND BUY SOME ENGLISH LESSONS)

-Sorry about that last one. I waitied 2nd in line for 50 minutes because this lady wanted to buy a $22 printer cartridge and nobody could talk to or understand her.

[lordsmurf]

For next time: "Perdon senora. Usa el dinero para comprar un profesor y estudia ingles. No necesitas tinta de impresora."

I have to agree with you doramius. I live in an English-speaking country, and I've made effort to try and learn several languages. Among them is Spanish. Why the hell can they not try and learn a little English, especially if they reside in an English-speaking country?

I actually get pretty aggravated with some of the DVD HACKS lists comments. Most non-English comments are questions or other stupid non-sensical crap because they cannot understand enough English to navigate the site (such as reading the rules). They could have at least tried, used babelfish or something. But of course, that's not how it goes.

When I go to non-English sites online, I at least try. Usually comes out pretty good too.

[Supreme2k]

My pet peeves:

People who are graduated from* highschool that still can't spell and don't use spell check.

People who are graduated from* highschool and still say words like:

*Options
1. People who have graduated from
2. People who are graduates of

Comprende? :P

[MackemX]

Hispanic people who live in the US that get pissed because there is no translator for them when they walk into a store. (DON'T SHOP AT OFFICE MAX ANYMORE YOU FAT & PRUNY HOOKER. GO BACK TO MEXICO AND SELL YOUR DRY AND CRUSTY HOLE FOR $5 US AND BUY SOME ENGLISH LESSONS)

I have to agree with you doramius. I live in an English-speaking country, and I've made effort to try and learn several languages. Among them is Spanish. Why the hell can they not try and learn a little English, especially if they reside in an English-speaking country?

I find this more annoying to be truthful as it suggests you are a slightly racist just because people don't speak your own language or attempt to do so in 'your' country. Isn't it the same or even worse when you get the Americans & British living or visiting abroad and they don't even attempt to learn the local language or culture? . I can't speak for Americans but I do know what some Brits are like abroad and they don't give a toss

I left this comment alone when I first saw it to see if anyone else picked it up but isn't that a pretty offensive comment to make towards any Mexican, just because they struggle with the English language? To put it into prospective, how would you feel if you had a Mexican on here saying that all Americans should take their big fat greasy burger eating asses and 'I'm superior' attitudes back to their own country and learn some manners when in other countries?. Note, that's not my own opinion of Americans (I love 'em, especially the chicks I've met on my holidays ) but an example, though I have heard these comments while in other countries about the attitude

sad to see guys if indeed that is the case as that comment by you Lordsmurf suggest this site is an English speaking only people welcome to join and post and tough crap if you can't speak English or struggle with it but don't post foreign language please but take some english lessons first as it pisses Lordsmurf off

I honestly can't believe how touchy some people get regarding people's behaviour on a board as I think comments like this are worse to see on a site than some foreign post or idiotic newbie comment but then again, it's a strange world

cheers 8)

[smearbrick1]

Hispanic people who live in the US that get pissed because there is no translator for them when they walk into a store. (DON'T SHOP AT OFFICE MAX ANYMORE YOU FAT & PRUNY HOOKER. GO BACK TO MEXICO AND SELL YOUR DRY AND CRUSTY HOLE FOR $5 US AND BUY SOME ENGLISH LESSONS)

I have to agree with you doramius. I live in an English-speaking country, and I've made effort to try and learn several languages. Among them is Spanish. Why the hell can they not try and learn a little English, especially if they reside in an English-speaking country?

I find this more annoying to be truthful as it suggests you are a slightly racist just because people don't speak your own language or attempt to do so in 'your' country. Isn't it the same or even worse when you get the Americans & British living or visiting abroad and they don't even attempt to learn the local language or culture? :roll:. I can't speak for Americans but I do know what some Brits are like abroad and they don't give a toss :lol:

I left this comment alone when I first saw it to see if anyone else picked it up but isn't that a pretty offensive comment to make towards any Mexican, just because they struggle with the English language? To put it into prospective, how would you feel if you had a Mexican on here saying that all Americans should take their big fat greasy burger eating asses and 'I'm superior' attitudes back to their own country and learn some manners when in other countries?. Note, that's not my own opinion of Americans (I love 'em, especially the chicks I've met on my holidays :drool:) but an example, though I have heard these comments while in other countries about the attitude :D

sad to see guys if indeed that is the case as that comment by you Lordsmurf suggest this site is an English speaking only people welcome to join and post and tough crap if you can't speak English or struggle with it but don't post foreign language please but take some english lessons first as it pisses Lordsmurf off :lol:

I honestly can't believe how touchy some people get regarding people's behaviour on a board as I think comments like this are worse to see on a site than some foreign post or idiotic newbie comment but then again, it's a strange world :D

cheers 8)

I have to agree a bit with Mackem. This is an arguement I've been having with my father for years.

I don't think people realize that the US was founded by people from other cultures and of differing ethnicities. I believe this is what living in the US is all about. It's a melting pot of different cultures all in a place that preaches tolerance. This, to me, would include Engish as a second language. While I only speak English, I can understand one's aversion to learning another language. If your entire family and the community in which you live speaks mainly Spanish (for example), the need to speak English is not going to be the most important things on your list of things to do. This is no different than anyone who lives in a community with predominantly English speaking people.

Sometimes people leave their hoods (barrios, communities, etc).

[Doramius]

I think you are taking it from the wrong angle. My mother was born in Peru and lived all of her school years prior to college in Puerto Rico (Not hispanic though. Her Father was a Methodist Missionary). She didn't know much english until after she graduated highschool. Her parents told her they were moving to the US. In 6 months she had to learn hard english, but she did it.

I understand spanish. I understood what the lady in the line ahead of me was saying. In fact, she stated she had lived in the US for 9 years and she didn't know why people couldn't cater to her as a customer and she thought everyone in the store was crazy. I was going to help her, but she became a prick to the cashier. It wasn't my responsibility and I had time to kill, so I just let her have it out with the guy at the register. It pisses me off to understand that a person walks into a store where they know the native tongue is going to be english and then complains that nobody can help her when she doesn't know the language. She can shop at stores where she knows they speak the language.

This isn't a political debate about what language is right in the US, or about what the country is founded on. It's a topic about pet peeves.

What's worse is I'm a 6'5" White Male who will walk into a hispanic grocery store and I see the look on the store clerks face thinking they are going to have to speak english when they don't know it very well. I shocks the hell out of them when I go in speaking a clean spanish. I'll admit, I'm not the very best at spanish (pretty poor since I decided to learn asian languages after I graduated Highschool. I had gotten annoyed with everyone in my family learning spanish). But I can communicate well enough to where I could go shopping in Mexico and they'd think I'd lived there as a resident for a few years.

"Perdon senora. Usa el dinero para comprar un profesor y estudia ingles. No necesitas tinta de impresora."

I was thinking about saying something like that, but I just let her get the frustration out. Hopefully next time she'll go somewhere else or bring a friend. (or maybe use the money as stated)

[MackemX]

I didn't think you meant it in the way it looked Doramius as I know your posting nature but in my post I didn't mention that . I was just pointing out how it could look to others by using the American example and that it 'could' be taken the wrong way if you did look at it from a certain angle . People may not even post a reply but I would think that it wouldn't reflect well on the board if we all had a similar kind of attitude towards members that's all

I try not to let things like idiotic newbie, foreign talking member with silly spelling & grammar posts or anything similar bother me that much and I certainly don't feel the need to 'peeve' about it. I tend to get more bothered by 'other' crap and peeve about that as most times it comes from well established board members who should know better than a newb/foreigner about forum posting etiquette , myself included

cheers 8)

[Supreme2k]

(This is only partially aimed at MX)
Where do you draw the line at "noobs"?

If you're following a logical path, the person had to learn to use a computer, then they had to learn to use the Internet (surf, search, etc.), then find VH (or their board of choice), sign up (hopefully reading the rules), and after all that, only then can they post.

If you look at it logically, no one is a true "noob". Yes, they may be a beginner to video (wrong:"Hey jackass, it's obvious you should be using Virtualdub!"), but as far as board etiquette, I highly doubt that VH is their first plunge into teh intarweb cumoonitee. Is it so much to ask people (even with "tough love" ) to try to better themselves?
Even your mate, MX. It's never too late to take a couple of English classes, or crack open a book or two. Hell, I do volunteer work teaching illiterate people to read and write, with some being in their 60's.

To put it into prospective, how would you feel if you had a [Mexican] on here saying that all Americans should take their big fat greasy burger eating asses and 'I'm superior' attitudes back to their own country and learn some manners when in other countries?

I guess you've never run into Satstorm

[MackemX]

it's the treatment that some get is what really puzzles me and that's what pissed me off about this place just over a year ago. You had dickheads just saying crap to whoever they thought deserved it and in some occasions it wasn't deserved.

My other gripe is that, nothing is 'deserved' anyway so where do some people's lame ass piss poor pathetic attitude of 'they deserve it' come from? If it really is serious enough to warrant a tongue lashing reply from yourself then let the mods deal with it instead and just move on and let that person struggle alone

If such trivial things like spelling/grammar/stupid questions etc bother people then fine, I can accept that. However, I'm not naming any names but talking in general, does that means it fair and right to give the person crap because of it for whatever reason that peeves them?

Can't members just point out to others the error of their ways without getting personal or insulting? If they get abuse back for simply trying to say that then report it. Most times, newbs will retaliate when a carefully worded post has baited them into it and then the established member plays all innocent and it does happen . It's a simple thing to get a reaction and although it's amusing for the few who like to laugh at that sort of thing, I don't think it reflects well on the forum. Wouldn't it make for a better forum overall if well established members didn't stoop to the low levels some have before regarding treatment of newbies or those less educated or reported those who do act like this continously?

In my experience of helping newbs that are completely clueless and/or lazy, is that it is still possible to push the vast majority of these people onto the correct path by the manner in which you initially treat them. I can't say 100% that I haven't done insulted a newbie but I'd like to think I haven't. On most occasions in the past of 'insulting' that I've done in the DVD forums, it has been towards someone doing it to someone else so they know how it feels. Strange how on occasions I got thanked for what I've said in the forums by the member who was getting the crap at them in a particular thread. I guess that's how I got the 'who are you?, the forum police?' line thrown at me a few times also

replies like 'RTFM you noob' or 'check out the guides on the left you idiot' etc are just stupid. Even so simply pointing someone to a list of guides politely can still be quite confusing as there's so many and some involve using new tools/methods. I remember when I first started using Ifoedit and I found some of the guides difficult to follow and I was a computer freak who could follow guides!

That's why I wrote my own and judging by the 1,000's of hits I got within the first few weeks then I'd say they were pretty successful. My point being was that I wrote them as best I could so others wouldn't have the headaches I did trying to understand that great tool. Even so, I still wouldn't expect a complete newb to have looked at those guides and fully understand every step and I often answered the simplest of questions as I understand some people just don't have a brain upstairs but I don't think any less of them

Give people crap for spelling/grammar/lack of a brain or anything else will still get those people nowhere and probably get less effort back from them. I can also see that continuously correcting forum etiquette etc will eventually wear down the most laid back of helpers on a forum. That then leads to threads like this to vent that frustration

I used to enjoy helping people, no matter how trivial it was or how thick I thought they were. Now I've given up helping people seeing as there is nothing much I can offer these days as my interest has dropped greatly in the DVD world. I only really ever hung around this place more over the last few years so I'd become a mod (rather than at the other forums I had been offered mod's places) so I could help more to make this place even better by cutting down such crap. I guess that dream is finally over now, which is a shame, so I'll be slowly disappearing into the shadows and do other things with my free time instead. I really shouldn't even be in this thread but I just got bored and I still find myself popping by now and then

cheers 8)


I've seen Satstorm about but he's a Mac guy ain't he?

p.s. the behaviour I talk about in this post is aimed at nobody at all so don't take offence. It will only offend those who do it anyway and I couldn't give a toss what they think as they 'deserve it' :P

p.p.s. I've probably messed up a little in this huuuuuuuge post but I can't be bothered to make it word perfect. Overall I hope people get what I was trying to put across 8)

p.p.p.s. is there such a thing as p.p.s.? If not then I guess p.p.p.s doesn't exist either so why are you reading this?

p.p.p.p.s. are you still reading these?

[Supreme2k]

it's the treatment that some get is what really puzzles me and that's what pissed me off ...yadda,yadda,yado

...

If it really is serious enough to warrant a tongue lashing reply from yourself then let the mods deal with it instead ...

And that's exactly what happens. People get banned almost every day (week, month, whatever), and much of it is from mouthing off a few too many times.

Most times, newbs will retaliate when a carefully worded post has baited them into it and then the established member plays all innocent and it does happen

That's a very loaded word. Sometimes you get your hand bitten off by those who are looking for bait.
More often than not, it's usually the newbie doing a drive-by:
"Have you done a search? That question has been asked many times before." fairly (to very) tame
"Why don't you stop being an a-hole and tell me how to rip this disc! This site sucks!"

Strange how on occasions I got thanked for what I've said in the forums by the member who was getting the crap at them in a particular thread. I guess that's how I got the 'who are you?, the forum police?' line thrown at me a few times also

People will thank you if you're defending them, right or wrong.

Even so simply pointing someone to a list of guides politely can still be quite confusing as there's so many and some involve using new tools/methods.

Quite frankly, that's idiotic. If they can't take the time to read a guide, then a 30 second post isn't going to help them. The term "hand-holding" comes into play here.

Give people crap for spelling/grammar/lack of a brain or anything else will still get those people nowhere and probably get less effort back from them. I can also see that continuously correcting forum etiquette etc will eventually wear down the most laid back of helpers on a forum. That then leads to threads like this to vent that frustration

I really shouldn't even be in this thread...

By far, the most relevant thing you've said, but also too late :P

I think that your biggest obstacle (or peeve 8) ) is that you are suffering a paradox. You would like to show no regard for the newbie detractors, yet you seem to care too much about a few bad eggs. Me? I take them on a case by case basis.
Trust me, the callous ones will be dealt with, and the n00bs will learn to toughen up.

[MackemX]

you know the kind of posts I'm talking about and I'm not talking about the lame 'this site sucks' etc in a response. There's a big difference to "Have you done a search? That question has been asked many times before." and "Not again, will the idiots ever use the search feature? That question has been asked many times before.". Sometimes a 30 second post can help

let's just say it isn't such a problem for me any more for a few reasons

I was trying to speak from past experiences as I don't go into the DVDR forums that much so I don't see it anymore. I'd be brave enough to say that it's not as rife these days as since late 2004 8)

I won't start linking to loads of old threads as it's way in the past now but these threads were rather amusing to read again. It's an example of the lame stuff I was seeing but look at how a simple 'dumbass' set one thread rolling into a big mess when there was no need for it at all. It didn't surprise me you saw it differently either

https://forum.videohelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=235379

I got so sick of it, I posted a thread in OT just over a year ago

https://forum.videohelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=252851

I can see now how I found my way into OT as Stiltman commented on it

https://forum.videohelp.com/viewtopic.php?p=1145420#1145420

#2, the mods came down hard with the rules in the last year and this place improved. Quite a fuss was raised and mostly by those who were probably affected by it. My posting habits weren't affected so I saw nothing wrong with it. Most people who's posting habits were affected either got used it it and changed slightly or they eventually got warned or banned or simply left

#3, these days I don't think of Videohelp as my 'home' forum anymore as I'm in No Man's Land . Think of it as a last parting 'rant' 8)

cheers 8)

the simple fact is n00bs should not have to toughen up at all. There should be nothing to toughen up to in the first place. Sadly I'm yet to see a perfect forum like that and never will. I've seen forums be tough on people for trying to toughen up the newbies or less educatd though and I'm all for that

[lordsmurf]

Isn't it the same or even worse when you get the Americans & British living or visiting abroad and they don't even attempt to learn the local language or culture?

It's exactly the same. Lazy bitches. If you plan to go somewhere else, learn to communicate. If you at least made an effort to learn (and I don't mean carrying a dictionary, but actually spend some months or years learning), then people will usually try to work with you as best they can.

......... isn't that a pretty offensive comment to make towards any Mexican, just because they struggle with the English language?

The keyword here is "struggle" which translates into "trying hard". They're trying. I cannot ask for anything more. They try to learn English, I try to learn Spanish, and we meet in the middle to communicate. It's quite nice. it works well.

It all comes back to TRYING TO LEARN!
Maybe even SUCCEEDING TO LEARN SOMETHING!

I will never condemn somebody who tries. And I mean an earnest try, not a half-assed attempt that was doomed to fail before it started.

where do some people's lame ass piss poor pathetic attitude of 'they deserve it' come from?

I tend to agree. They don't deserve anything. In fact, they should get nothing. No response, no comments, it's like their post online was sucked into a big black hole. Lack of response can often be the perfect way to prod somebody into trying harder.

[Supreme2k]

It's an example of the lame stuff I was seeing but look at how a simple 'dumbass' set one thread rolling into a big mess when there was no need for it at all. It didn't surprise me you saw it differently either

https://forum.videohelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=235379

That's not a very good example. You were clearly defending a total a-hole, simply for the sake of attacking jim (and defending the "under-dog").
...or maybe that was a good example.

the simple fact is n00bs should not have to toughen up at all. There should be nothing to toughen up to in the first place.

I agree in the letter of that statement: They should be toughened up already.
In this age of 50 mandatory smilies after every post because people can't discern a little sarcasm or good-natured ribbing, one can only hope that they "toughen up" somewhere. Not too long ago, someone asked what a zip file was. I was honestly taken aback and said so, but I also provided a solution. So what does this guy do after I help him out? Insults and attitude. Fortunately, it didn't dampen my helpful spirit.

[MackemX]

@LS, yeah, it's a shame some liked to play with threads before they disappeared into that black hole

@Supreme2K, you must be psychic if you guessed he was a total a-hole in the few posts before Jimmalenko called him a dumbass and he naturally reacted

If you read the original post the guy was looking to save time and HD, ripping the complete DVD and then using DVDShrink wasn't really a way to do it. That's what the guy pulled Jim up about in a post and I see nothing wrong with his comments. It then turned bad but I think the dumbass had a lot to do with it . Quite a few people would react to being called a dumbass just for questioning a method that wasn't really quicker or saved HD space

we've always had our differences in this area Supreme2K but those days of posts spoiling the threads are long gone for me anyway plus most of the offenders have either left or just don't do it now. There was a time when people seemed to hunt in packs but I think this place has improved a lot in the last year and I'm just commenting on old crap so there's no point discussing it now 8).

Regardless, I still think it's best you shut up you dumbass wanker, keep your opinions to yourself and fully understand a thread before judging someone to be an a-hole even before they react to being called a dumbass

(:P, 1 more smiley for good measure)

p.s. ah, the good old 'What's a Zip file?' after you ask someone to unzip the file you sent them, it's usually a monthly thing for me

[TooLFooL]

sorry peeps, but im LMAO!!!

[Doramius]

Another pet peeve is women leaving their clothes all over the house. My wife said to me she doesn't leave her clothes all over the house. I made a smart comment of, "You're right honey. The evolutionary fungal growth in your panties finally grew intelligence and legs, then decided to walk out in the middle of the bathroom floor, while finally finding it permanently habitable there."

I slept on the couch that night. :/

[smearbrick1]

Another pet peeve is women leaving their clothes all over the house. My wife said to me she doesn't leave her clothes all over the house. I made a smart comment of, "You're right honey. The evolutionary fungal growth in your panties finally grew intelligence and legs, then decided to walk out in the middle of the bathroom floor, while finally finding it permanently habitable there."

I slept on the couch that night. :/

My wife can't seem to find the lightswitch in any room to turn the lights off. She also has an allergy to open doors. It is impossible to get her to either close a door or turn off the light. If you get her to do one, you can't expect the other. Most of the time I'll open the closet door and find she left the light on. The best one is when she goes to take a shower and turns the bedroom light on, the spare bedroom light on, the hallway light, and both bathroom lights (one over the mirror, one over the rest of the room) and leaves all of them on while showering. Apparently her dream house is a house with no doors and lights that remain turned on permanently. I'm going to install motion detectors in each room and eliminate the switches. That way she has no control over the lights.

Along with her light and door issue she has a tendancy to place everything on the kitchen table. Keys, purse, checkbook, dog collar, tampons (those are the best, especially when you have company) today's mail, yesterday's mail, the newspaper from Sunday (it's Wednesday and she "still hasn't read it"), various laundry items, and whatever else she may have on her person. I think if I let her, she would have everything she owns on the kitchen table.

And what and the hell is up with taking my keys? The minute she is done driving my car, she steals my keys. (thieves take note) 90% of the time the keys to my car are in my car. I park in a garage at my house, we do not have nomadic gangs of car thieves, and my garage is pretty secure. Everytime she takes my car and I go to drive it... NO KEYS! Not only are there NO KEYS but there is NO GAS!

Are women allergic to gas stations?

[Supreme2k]

Your wife may have OCD. Time for some Ritalin

[Doramius]

AMEN TO THAT!!!

My wife has the same issue with lights & doors. I did install motion detectors in all the closets for that reason. I also changed nearly all of the lights in our house to flourescent, so they use 1/3 to 1/4 the energy. Only the decorative (flame style in the chandelier) bulbs are incandescent.

As for the keys. My wife could not put the keys on the key rack. She'd lose her keys, then take mine and lose them. I swear we got 15 loose house keys around town. My worry about that is we haven't changed the locks yet . My wife also clutters everything on the dining room table.

Here's the worst of it. SHe'll wait until the house is totally messy with her clothes & stuff and then say, "WE need to clean the house. You do the living room and the bedroom."

YEAH RIGHT! WHEN ANTARCTICA HAS A BEACH VOLLEYBALL TEAM!!!

Here are ways to curb some of these situations.

1) With the Keys, always set them in a place other than where they are supposed be, but always put them in the same spot yourself. (IE: On top of the computer desk) My wife now scolds me for not putting the keys where they are supposed to go and I've been finding the keys put on the rack (by her) more frequently.

2) Invite company over more frequently. Start out with close friends first (ones that will understand a slightly messy house). My wife doesn't leave underwear and nylons all over the house as much and tends to keep things a little tidier. Just make sure to change up visitors every so often.

3) You can go to Sam's Club, Costco, BJs, or some other wholesale club or store that carry those cheap door alarms. I found a pack of 4 at the $.99 store locally. Set them up at the doors every so often so they go off when the door is open. She'll rip them off and get annoyed, but she'll get the hint (hopefully).

4) Place a space house key only where you know it will be. If your wife calls you telling you she's locked out of the house, make her wait. If she says she has to go to the bathroom bad or a light emergeny of sort, call her back 5 minutes later and tell her you know where a spare key is. If she calls with a dire emergency, tell her where the key is. Ask her to put it on the key rack immediately when she's done, and then hide it in a new spot.

5) If you can, get some gas cans and store them in a safe & hidden spot (about 2x 5-gal. cans) in your garage. Make sure your wife never sees you use or uncover them. Use her car as often as possible without filling it up. It might be a pain that she calls you if she's stranded, but let her wait it out by taking your time and occasionally stop at a burger place for something to eat (don't use the drive-thru). Leave her about 5 fries that have gotten cold.

[canadateck]

2) Invite company over more frequently. Start out with close friends first (ones that will understand a slightly messy house). My wife doesn't leave underwear and nylons all over the house as much and tends to keep things a little tidier. Just make sure to change up visitors every so often.

I pull this one all the time.

[Shadowmistress]

1. My pet peeve: People who post long ass posts babbleing on and on and on rather than just sticking to the point. (It took FOREVER to read to the end of this thread from the middle of page one where I last saw it.)

2. Speak proper English on an English board? Sure. But technically, isn't this board Swedish? :P (Yeah, where is good old Satstorm when you need him, eh? )

3. Mackem I hate to burst your bubble but it seemed like your posts in that thread you linked to only encouraged a flame that would have resolved itself between jim and whathisname. And each time it looked as if both parties were willing to walk away, you'd post again which would only egg them on. But I can't say you're totally unjustified either because I remember how bad things were back then. In the end, it doesn't matter who was right. Have you considered that maybe your drawing so much attention to the problem actually made the problem worse? - Just food for thought.

I must say though that of all those who participated in that thread, I liked mats.hogberg's approach the best.

4. People come to OT for the freedom to vent about the on topic subjects. That's what this thread is intended for and that's what I'm doing. :P

[MackemX]

out of respect for those peeved by long posts I've made this small text to make the post 'smaller'. Only those who want to read it will do what's required to read it and stop the cry babies 8)

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SM, if you don't want to read it, then why not skip it dumbass?

were you forced to read it or was it because you can't see the scroll bar on your tiny screen or was it because you couldn't resist a poke at me or was it all 3. That's even funnier than someone complaining because a thread wastes space on a forum

the simple walk away people approach didn't work, trust me and that thread is just one example I found so you are obviously making judgement on a very small amount of what I saw

I was already pissed off about the crap by that point anyway and unless you go back and read every one of my posts you won't know the whole story . I was sick of seeing it every so often, sometimes from the same people when there was no need for it. The nicey nicey guy approach fell upon deaf ears on most occasions. I just faced up to it and started pulling up the contant offenders and sometimes giving them a taste of their own medicine. I guess being a mod in other forums, dealing with the same stuff made me feel like I had my hands tied here as I couldn't say stuff that would help cut it down

my point is why do the crap in the first place when there's no need for it as everyone knows what it leads to?

we can argue all day SM, but I was a helluva lot more into 'helping' people back then than being a OT layabout like some here sometimes venturing out into the rest of VH like some here . The constant jibes, insults and flareups and claiming innocence and blaming the other party were pissing me off yet nothing seemed to be getting done about it and it was often repeat offenders. So what if I said something about it, at least I didn't want to just stand back and let the boards degenerate into some kind of playground, hence my playground thread

I wish I'd been able to say things in shorter ways without having to constantly explain why their posting attitude doesn't work for everyone. Even so as a fellow member you don't have as big an effect but if I'd been a mod I would have acted in a nicer shorter way to get people to understand it's just not welcome.

in that thread a mod singles out jtommyj who got wound up after being called a dumbass to stop posting and there's quite a few mods in that thread.

https://forum.videohelp.com/viewtopic.php?p=1024053#1024053

Obviously he's acting on jtommyj's behaviour and Vitualis tells everyone they will be warned for posting flames after his post.What about me, Jim and Supreme2K for posting previous to that, do we not deserve a hand slapping also?

The mods enforced more of the rules this year and upset some people, be it in the right or wrong manner but I had no problem with the rules at all 8). Back then it wasn't impossible to stop it but it was possible to stop the constant offenders, especially the regulars but I just saw occasions when nothing happened . Like I said most offenders have either left, been warned or don't do it as much if at all now

you can twist, turn and regurgitate that thread out another way but the bottom line SM, is that calling someone a dumbass may and will probably get a reaction . Jim pleads innocence but the adds to someone's comments rather than take away like a :P would.

so why do it in the first place if it normally leads to a flare up?
and why should a normal person have to harden up so that insults can be directed at them?
is it that ******* hard to learn not to post this shit or is the person posting it a dumbass themselves? The 'innocent comment' card can really only be played a few times as an excuse but it wears thin after a few uses

simple fact again SM, some people thrive on this shit and they are also the ones who will defend something like calling someone a dumbass for no apparent reason is perfectly acceptable forum etiquette. There is **** all previous to the dumbass comment that can warrant such a 'justified' response from what I can see. If people should harden up so they can have the dumbass thrown at them then people should harden up also. Is this 1 post by jtoomyt really that offensive to warrant a dumbass response

what is even funnier as hell is that Jim probably posted that response just because someone 'challenged' his way of doing something seeing as the original poster asked for something else

https://forum.videohelp.com/viewtopic.php?p=1022853#1022853

funnily enough I can point you to another thread from before that and someone simply posting a method that worked for them. You can see how that turned out and how it just takes the piss simply because someone 'posted a method that worked for them'

https://forum.videohelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=228883

did you notice who also appears yet again defending what I'm got sick of seeing? . You could probably follow link after link in some threads as that last link has 2 more links in it but can you see the pattern now SM? as these are just 2 threads . You have just seen the backend of it all I suppose and it's pointless trying to explain something that is long gone anyway

so please forgive me if I didn't think that this wasn't acceptable on a forum that is one of the best in it's field and could have done without it. Would the board have suffered so much if this had been dealt with in the proper manner and the rules brought into force firmly but fairly? If anything I think it improves the place as there's plenty of forums you can go to have fun and make personal remarks that don't offend as much as the forum is that nature. This is a Videohelp forum where people come looking for advice and help without insult and not some rowdy smelly offensive crappy place like the Pub

I just wanted to post to help people or learn new stuff myself but I got sick of occasionally stepping over the same shit. At times I would pick it up and try to throw it away instead of just pinching my nose hoping the smell would go away. Man did I wish I had more power back then and I would have liked to have kicked the shit back to where it belonged but in a nice way

by the way I've nothing against Jim, he just happened to be in the threads I'm linking to plus remember this old shit I'm recalling :P

p.s. if you don't like long ass posts then feel free to skip this one (I was tempted to make a really long ass one just for the fun of it ). I've just posted this one because I was bored today (I miss OGame :P) and all this means jackshit now so people shouldn't bother reading into it too much . I thought you might like it if you were also bored and it was fun reading old crap. I'm just getting rid of old crap in my head I suppose as I'm starting new fresh things and this was a poster habits peeve thread. It's a shame I came into OT and never really went back to the forums where I enjoyed so much of my time here but shit happens

cheers 8)

:EDIT: damn, that sure does look funny with all those smilies

[Supreme2k]

Just added to the annoying poster (habits):

The "Lovers" screwing up every half-decent thread

[MackemX]

Just added to the annoying poster (habits):

The "Lovers" screwing up every half-decent thread

hey, that's not the case anymore :P

I've been in OT on most occasions and now you can see that I'm still getting 'stalked' as it's been a month since SM posted in OT and she gives me the honour of her 'unwanted' attention when she does

[Doramius]

Another Pet peeve is when a person takes things personal over someone's indirected comment of opinion and thinks less of that person for speaking their mind in a friendly environment. :P

But technically, isn't this board Swedish?

It could have been made in Brazil or China. Baldrick chose the format to be english. If you want to post in Czech, feel free as I doubt anyone would keep you from doing so. It might limit your help response time. :/