Tricky Dick vs. Ronnie

[Guest]

I heard Regan's funeral is the first state funeral since LBJ. What happened to Nixon?

[thayne]

He wanted a private funeral

[DVD_Ripper]

It was a fitting tribute to the best republican president in the last 100 years

[Capmaster]

As soon as a president takes office, he has to choose what type of funeral he wants. Nixon's was decided in Jan. 1969 when he started his first term. As Thayne pointed out, he picked a private funeral.

I watched the coverage today with the service at the Wash. Cathedral. I was moved by Lady Margaret Thatcher's eulogy. She had a special relationship with Reagan - almost like brother and sister. Her eulogy brought tears to my eyes. And then later, she accompanied Nancy on the flight to Calif. for the burial. Considering her age and infirmity, she's one hell of a courageous lady.

I agree that Reagan was one of the greats of our lifetime. Just when we needed a bright beacon, at a low point for the country with runaway inflation and unemployment, Reagan brought hope. It sounds corny, I know, but he was such a class act, had such a good sense of humor, and was loved by everyone who met him. We'll miss him.

[Guest]

It was a fitting tribute to the best republican president in the last 100 years

Take that back. Not supposed to be a political post.

[jeex]

It was a fitting tribute to the best republican president in the last 100 years

Take that back. Not supposed to be a political post.

he should not only take that back because its political, but because its just plain wrong.. now i can understand feeling bad zee gipper because he's dead, but he was by no means the best republican president of the last 100 years.. roosevelt comes to mind.. you cant say things you know are wrong just because someone is dead.. i dont understand why a lot of people are trying to build this mystique around the gipper just because he's dead.. he was at best an average president. he knew how to work people, and he's managed to do it even in death.

[Guest]

It was a fitting tribute to the best republican president in the last 100 years

Take that back. Not supposed to be a political post.

he should not only take that back because its political, but because its just plain wrong.. now i can understand feeling bad zee gipper because he's dead, but he was by no means the best republican president of the last 100 years.. roosevelt comes to mind.. you cant say things you know are wrong just because someone is dead.. i dont understand why a lot of people are trying to build this mystique around the gipper just because he's dead.. he was at best an average president. he knew how to work people, and he's managed to do it even in death.

I thought FDR was a democrat.

[lordsmurf]

FDR was a Democrat.

[Guest]

FDR was a Democrat.

How about Teddy?

[thayne]

Teddy was, but Reagan was a better President....

[jeex]

well it is a matter of opinion, and the time you lived in, and your political affiliation.. but if you were to take a look at the state of the world, dis/approval/poll/numbers then you get a better look. no one felt sorry for reagan being dead while he was still alive & president (great line). there were so many recent presidents (before & after) that had better numbers than the gipper in so many things.

the "legacy" of reagan has been under work for a long time now, but the truth about him is still out there. i understand that no president is perfect, but some presidents are just bad..

i think if you had asked the question "is ronald reagan the best republican president in the last 100 years?" at the time george I took office, the numbers would have been very low.

[BJ_M]

A.Lincoln

[Guest]

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[thayne]

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[jeex]

A.Lincoln

of course he was better, but he was out about 115 years before reagan entered office

[BJ_M]

A.Lincoln

of course he was better, but he was out about 115 years before reagan entered office

ok -- i was splitting hairs .. he was gov. of calf. or something within the 100 years ...

[jeex]

A.Lincoln

of course he was better, but he was out about 115 years before reagan entered office

ok -- i was splitting hairs .. he was gov. of calf. or something within the 100 years ...

y'know how those repug's are if its anything against them, you gotta be spot on.. and even then, heh..

[Capmaster]

It was a fitting tribute to the best republican president in the last 100 years

Take that back. Not supposed to be a political post.

he should not only take that back because its political, but because its just plain wrong.. now i can understand feeling bad zee gipper because he's dead, but he was by no means the best republican president of the last 100 years.. roosevelt comes to mind.. you cant say things you know are wrong just because someone is dead.. i dont understand why a lot of people are trying to build this mystique around the gipper just because he's dead.. he was at best an average president. he knew how to work people, and he's managed to do it even in death.

When he left office he had a national approval rating of 63% - the highest, to this date, since modern reporting was started. Doesn't seem like the majority of the US agrees with your assessment jeex

[jeex]

It was a fitting tribute to the best republican president in the last 100 years

Take that back. Not supposed to be a political post.

he should not only take that back because its political, but because its just plain wrong.. now i can understand feeling bad zee gipper because he's dead, but he was by no means the best republican president of the last 100 years.. roosevelt comes to mind.. you cant say things you know are wrong just because someone is dead.. i dont understand why a lot of people are trying to build this mystique around the gipper just because he's dead.. he was at best an average president. he knew how to work people, and he's managed to do it even in death.

When he left office he had a national approval rating of 63% - the highest, to this date, since modern reporting was started. Doesn't seem like the majority of the US agrees with your assessment jeex

yeah, maybe when he left office.. but across it was 57%... tied with clinton and within a point of LBJ. jfk, eisenhower, geroge I & geroge II have all done better.

and let me provide you with some proof.. y'know, that thing that says what your'e saying is right..

http://abcnews.go.com/images/pdf/PollingMemoReaganRetrospective.pdf

[jeex]

When he left office he had a national approval rating of 63% - the highest, to this date, since modern reporting was started. Doesn't seem like the majority of the US agrees with your assessment jeex

just because he left office with that rating doesnt mean that 63% of americans thought he was the best republican president in the last 100 years.. i strongly doubt they would have thought that at the time, now that everyone has been polluted for about a week that may have changed.

stop trying to twist my words.

[gitreel]

Now I know why politics are to be avoided. You are guaranteed to piss at least somebody off. I am only 30. I really don't remember much of the reagan years, but I know I haven't really cared for any of the pres. after him. Imo, the bushes are not playing with a full deck and clinton couldn't keep his willy in his pants. I am sorry if I offended anyone.

[Capmaster]

It was a fitting tribute to the best republican president in the last 100 years

Take that back. Not supposed to be a political post.

he should not only take that back because its political, but because its just plain wrong.. now i can understand feeling bad zee gipper because he's dead, but he was by no means the best republican president of the last 100 years.. roosevelt comes to mind.. you cant say things you know are wrong just because someone is dead.. i dont understand why a lot of people are trying to build this mystique around the gipper just because he's dead.. he was at best an average president. he knew how to work people, and he's managed to do it even in death.

When he left office he had a national approval rating of 63% - the highest, to this date, since modern reporting was started. Doesn't seem like the majority of the US agrees with your assessment jeex

yeah, maybe when he left office.. but across it was 57%... tied with clinton and within a point of LBJ. jfk, eisenhower, geroge I & geroge II have all done better.

and let me provide you with some proof.. y'know, that thing that says what your'e saying is right..

http://abcnews.go.com/images/pdf/PollingMemoReaganRetrospective.pdf

ABC news agrees with you. Funny you would pick a liberal, anti-republican network and their spin-doctors to make a case that even after their pencil-whipping shows Clinton only tying Reagan. Even you know better than that.

I assume from your comments that you're a democrat. In spite of that, I like you and your posts.

In your french-like Bush-bashing, take comfort in the knowledge that the three democratic presidents we've had since Kennedy can be known for escalating the vietnam war (Johnson), throwing the country into a near-depression and graphically demonstrating a man operating desperately out of his element (Carter), and disgracing the country by his lack of morals and his eunuch-like handling of terrorists who later attacked us and had to be cleaned up by "dubya" (Clit-on).

Better to slam a man like Reagan who turned around our economy, gave the country some balls for a change, facilitated the end of the Soviet Union, and made everyone comfortable being patriotic - something that had been sorely lacking since the early '70s.

Do I agree with your take on it? Ummmm ....Nyoo! Funny shit though Peace brother

Edit: I have no intention of getting into a flame war. I just felt it necessary to defend Reagan's memory.

There's a good reason why politics aren't tolerated here. We both have our convictions and we're unlikely to change each other's minds. I'm in favor of dropping the subject - I don't want to stir up any hostilities here

[jeex]

ahahah. everyone is liberal/anti-republican except fox news to you repugs.. i didnt even read the rest of your reply, the beggining is to typical.. and hilarious.. its like an old joke you never get tired of..

[Capmaster]

ahahah. everyone is liberal/anti-republican except fox news to you repugs.. i didnt even read the rest of your reply, the beggining is to typical.. and hilarious.. its like an old joke you never get tired of..

As a "repug" and you a "Dum-o-crat", let's drop the subject while the thread's still unlocked

Edit: You should read posts before replying jeex. I was extending the olive branch.

[jeex]

well as so typical from anyone, i wouldnt consider myself a democrat.. but an independant with democrat leanings.. i dont want to box myself in to a political party.. if i had to classify myself in a political party, i would have to create a new one.. the "anti-bushist"..

okay, now you're comparing me to the french.. atleast i'm not an unpatriotic terrorist anymore.. whew.. and you're talking about other presidents actions besides reagan.. it was cool when we were talking about poll numbers, but now you've tried changing the subject (blame clinton).. a typical republican tactic..

and reagan and the soviets.. its kinda like lincoln & the civil war.. was it all about slavery? no.. but if you dont say it that, you're a racist.. and if you dont say reagan took out the soviets then you're in a similar boat (not the racist boat though)..

c'mon man. lets not fall in to the same shit.. lets stick to a subject and talk about it.. the good and bad of reagan.. i know some of it will be speculation, but there are some hard & tight facts.. which are being glossed over because he's dead.. i'm not trying to attack bush here (although i could for days and days), i'm just saying reagan isnt all he's being cracked up to..

[jeex]

ahahah. everyone is liberal/anti-republican except fox news to you repugs.. i didnt even read the rest of your reply, the beggining is to typical.. and hilarious.. its like an old joke you never get tired of..

As a "repug" and you a "Dum-o-crat", let's drop the subject while the thread's still unlocked

i thought it was "dumb-o-crap"?

[Capmaster]

You're not a bad-ass after all jeex. You're actually a nice guy who has real feelings. Come on, admit it Come on ....you'll feel better afterwards, I promise

You're OK jeex

[jeex]

nah, thats alright.. i think this is a fitting end to the thread, we've both spoken our parts. lock the thread. it didnt turn ugly..

[Guest]

BaldRick must be on a date :P This thread should have been closed hours ago

[pacmania_2001]

www.politick.org.uk (thanks to Rhegedus)

Go there if you want to discuss political matters. I'm there as well as Cap so far so you can discuss anything you want with the same members as here pretty much.

Edit: Fox News is a joke.

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