Best way to rip a DVD and make edits w/out reencoding ..?

[mrhua]

Hi!

I heard about The Phantom Edit which is Star Wars Episode 1 with every scene with JarJar in it cut out ... I finally saw a copy of it and it was horrid quality.

I then thought to myself, how hard could it be? Well, for me, pretty hard.

I usually rip dvds with dvddcrypter in FILE mode or ISO mode. I'm not familiar with the IFO mode. I played around with the VOBS and womble's mpegvcr and didn't make much headway.

So, can anyone point me in the right direction? Perhaps give me a list of programs to use that could accomplish the task? I'd be willing to re-encode if I had to, but I want to maintain as high a quality as possible.

I know the macro steps .... 1) rip to HD in some format, 2) edit JarJar out, 3) save to dvd complient mpeg2 stream if necessary, and 4) re author back to dvd.

Any takers?

Thx!

mrHua

[FulciLives]

I bet this could be done with Womble MPEG-VCR

Rip the DVD using DVD Decrypter in IFO mode so you get a single M2V file and do the same to the 5.1 AC-3

Now MUX the two together so you have one large MPEG file.

TMPGEnc should be able to do that muxing.

Then use Womble MPEG-VCR to edit the movie. If done correctly it will not re-encode the file.

Now you have a new edited MPEG file.

Pop it into your DVD Authoring program of choice and there you go!

If the file is too big for a single DVD-R then after you write the VIDEO_TS folder to your HDD run DVD2ONE or DVDShrink etc. as you would with any large DVD.

I suppose you could even demultiplex the audio and then re-encode the video with a real MPEG encoder such as TMPGEnc Plus or Cinema Craft Encoder etc.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[Marlow]

Hi

I have have been working on re-editing dvds with womble mpeg vcr myself and I have a couple of questions about the system you described.

You said to rip the movie with DVD Decrypter in IFO mode to get a m2v file then a 5.1 ac3 file and mux them together. What is the benifit of ripping the streams seperately?

I ask this because I rip both streams at once to get a large vob file which load in to womble to edit. But I keep getting errors in the final edited mpeg like A/V out of synch or massive pixelation at all of the edit points.

Plus I almost never can join large files in womble without A/V being out of synch.

Do you think I'm getting these errors because I don't rip the A/V seperatly?

[gshelley61]

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[FulciLives]

I've had very limited exposure to Womble MPEG-VCR so it sounds like it would work well for a project like this but my experience in actually using it is very limited so ... what do I know?

Twas just a suggestion because I really don't know anyother good way of cutting MPEG video unless you convert it to an AVI format and edit it like that.

However doing that also means converting the audio to PCM WAV otherwise I don't know how you would edit the AC-3.

Sound quality would still be very high but anyting like 5.1 would become 2.0 Stereo instead.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[mrhua]

I bet this could be done with Womble MPEG-VCR

Rip the DVD using DVD Decrypter in IFO mode so you get a single M2V file and do the same to the 5.1 AC-3

Now MUX the two together so you have one large MPEG file.

TMPGEnc should be able to do that muxing.

Then use Womble MPEG-VCR to edit the movie. If done correctly it will not re-encode the file.

Now you have a new edited MPEG file.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

I'll give that a try. Thanks for the suggestions, it was exactly what I was looking for. I'll let you know how it goes.