Using Canopus ADVC-100 to capture & Ulead movie factory

[budz]

I would like to know if I am using a FAT32 file system am I still able to capture a 2 hour vhs movie? I have read some place that FAT32 can only go up to 4 gb compared to NTFS. I have WINDOWS 2000 PRO w/SP 4. I installed it but had so many issues with it I uninstalled it and reinstalled 98SE. I had my Plextor 708A not working with WINDOWS 2000. It was DMA enabled. I got frustrated so I reinstalled 98SE. I had no issues with WIN98SE.

I'm currently capturing a 2 hour vhs movie but earlier at 1 hour 20 min margin. I got a error telling me not enough disk space. So I uinstalled ulead movie factory from my 60 gb main hd and installed it in my 2nd hard drive which is 120 gb. I'm capturing again and hope it will turn out ok. I would appreciate any suggestions and help. Thanks in advance!

[snafu099]

Yes fat32 has 4g file size limit but that does not mean you can not capture long clips, just that single clips will not fully utilize all of a dvd disc.

When you set Ulead MF-2 templete settings they show an aproximate clip length for that bitrate. For most purposes you are loseing .3g of useability for final product. Since I do not do much if any editing I see no need to cap at extreme bitrates, although I have not reied it I suppose one could cap a series of clips, inport them to MF-2 and author to utilize full disc capacity

[budz]

I still can't convert a 2 hour vhs movie using ULEAD DVD MOVIE FACTORY. At the 1 hour 14 min point I get a error msg:

"Error occurred in the capturing process. This may be due to insufficent disk space.
Capture failed. The created file is corrupt and unusable. It will be automatically deleted".

Would anyone have any suggestions as to why my capture is failing? I have the file being saved in my 120 gb hard drive so I don't understand why it says may be due to insufficent disk space. I would appreciate any help. Thanks in advance!

[Will Hay]

How much disk space do you have on the drive with your OS?
You need at least the same amount spare as is destined for the dvd-r.
Will

[budz]

Thanks for the reply Will Hay. I found out what I was doing wrong. I didn't have it set to be saved on my bigger hard drive. It was in the default setting C:/mydocuments/ulead dvdmovie. I was able to capture in MPEG mode and created a ISO image and burned it using NERO. The dvd came out fine. I'm wondering if I captured in AVI mode would I get a better than quality dvd video? I'm new to this capture stuff. Thanks in advance to anyone replying to my posting.

[Will Hay]

I wouldn't recommend capturing in mpeg mode with the ADVC-100.
I have this device and use Pinnacle Studio 8 for avi capture and TMPGEnc for encoding to mpeg2.
One tip...
....whilst the ADVC-100 only captures at 720 x 576 (PAL) I encode/resize to 352 x 576 for all broadcast and VHS conversions, generally at 4000CBR.
I'm of the opinion there's no quality benefit in 720 x 576 for this type of source.
MiniDV captures are of course 720 x 576, 8000CBR.

If you do decide to capture in avi don't forget the FAT32 file limitation; DV transfer via the ADVC-100 runs at around 13gb per 60 mins of footage.

Best thing I ever did was upgrade to WinXP.
Will

[budz]

Will Hay wrote:

If you do decide to capture in avi don't forget the FAT32 file limitation;

I actually upgraded to Windows 2000 Pro w/sp 4 but I ended up uninstalling it because I had so many issues with it. My plextor 708a had issues with it. It was DMA enabled but it wouldn't work correctly so I reinstalled 98SE. I have no problems with my Plexor 708A now. Perhaps when I have more time I will install windows 2000 pro again.

The FAT32 limitation means the files can not be more than 4gb. Can you please explain how this affects video editing? Because I captured a vhs movie last nite that was 1 hour 38 min. long. I used ULEAD MOVIE FACTORY and was successful in capturing in dvd mode and created a ISO image and burned with DVD DECRYPTER. The dvd came out fine. Thanks in advance!

[Will Hay]

I don't know too much about capturing in 'dvd mode' (does this mean mpeg2), but clearly you captured under 4gb.
Put simply, if you capture in avi you're limited to 4gb segments, ie with DV running at circa. 13gb/hr you're restricted to around 20 minutes per capture.
You'll have to do this three to four times to capture your 70-ish minutes.
Will

[JumpinJackFlash]

Aww man, you gotta be kidding. So if you want an uninterrupted capture you have to reformat the hard drive to NTFS?

Damn, I was so happy this morning when I got the Canopus. Fabulous quality on the comp. Sucks big time when I burned - all jaggy when there is the remotest bit of motion. Used Movie Studio Pro to convert to svcd, and Tmpgenc, and burned with Nero. Horrific!

And now this info. I'm not a happy bunny.

[Will Hay]

Aww man, you gotta be kidding. So if you want an uninterrupted capture you have to reformat the hard drive to NTFS?

Damn, I was so happy this morning when I got the Canopus. Fabulous quality on the comp. Sucks big time when I burned - all jaggy when there is the remotest bit of motion. Used Movie Studio Pro to convert to svcd, and Tmpgenc, and burned with Nero. Horrific!

And now this info. I'm not a happy bunny.

You have WinXP and have a FAT32 system and not NTFS?
What settings did you use in TMPGEnc?
What did you use to 'capture' from the ADVC-100?
Will

[Will Hay]

I used ULEAD MOVIE FACTORY and was successful in capturing in dvd mode and created a ISO image and burned with DVD DECRYPTER. The dvd came out fine. Thanks in advance!

Basically, if you're confident with the proceedure and happy with the results then my advice would be to stick with it.
....don't fix what ain't broken
Will

[JumpinJackFlash]

You have WinXP and have a FAT32 system and not NTFS?

Yeah, well I had no idea what NTFS was, and with it saying that you couldn't use the drive on other operating systems (not that I was planning on having a dual boot system) it just seemed easier to choose FAT32.

I suppose I could copy the contents of the 30 gig drive over to the 120mb, reformat to NTFS and move them back. That might give me a bit of space.

What settings did you use in TMPGEnc?

Just used the Templates. I only really use Tmpgenc for converting VCD to SVCD or demuxing and never had a problem. The jaggies were in evidence a little but I thought they'd clear when viewed on TV. They were far worse. From reading on here I think it could be interlacing, but swapping the field order didn't help.

What did you use to 'capture' from the ADVC-100?
Will

At first I used Movie Maker and captured DV1. Since converted that to DV2 but it never made any difference - although weirdly when I first converted it and loaded it into Tmpgenc the jaggies weren't in eveidence. When I did it again they were?? Then I captured from Movie Studio using the UUlead DirectShow thingy. I tried with the mpeg one (didn't say whether it was s/vcd but the playback was horrible so decided to stick with DV. Same problem when I used Movie Studio to convert to svcd.

The DV looks absolutely beautiful, no complaints there, but it's the conversion when everything seems to go pearshape.

[JumpinJackFlash]

Ooh I think I've cracked it!

Tried again with Movie Studio - ensured the DV2 capturing was selected, and ticked the 'deinterlace' box in one of the settings. Played back beautifully as before, but the test was in converting to svcd.....it looked indistinguishable from the DV, with not a hint of jaggies! Yay! The scrolling text (was a clip from Sky News) was a bit bendy at first, but seemed to sort itself out.

Then I tried with Tmpgenc again, by selecting the deinterlace option (Even Fields [field] ) and it gave a gorgeous looking svcd. The scrolling text better than Movie Studios attempt, with no hint of the bends. Curiously the file was a good few megabytes bigger than the Movie Studio version. Mmmm.

Might try VBR later and see if that looks any better, though I'm very happy with the results thus far. Course when I actually burn it, it might be different but I'm heartened that the jaggies have completely disappeared on the monitor so fingers crossed.

If all goes well, then I'll make reformatting my drives the next goal and try capturing a full program.

[Will Hay]

Glad to hear it's sorted

Yes, 2 pass VBR will help, but I doubt you'll notice a major difference.
I find it useful if I have to achieve a specific output file size, but if I know I'll get it on one DVD-r at 8000CBR then of course that's what I do.
Will

[obiron]

Aww man, you gotta be kidding. So if you want an uninterrupted capture you have to reformat the hard drive to NTFS?

Jumpin', you don't have to reformat to convert a file system to NTFS. On XP you run the convert command:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/prodtechnol/winxppr...cs/convert.asp

[JumpinJackFlash]

Oh wow, thanks for that!

Gonna check it out now..........