DVD-9 to DVD-5: One Disk -- How does it look?

[Timoleon]

If I take a DVD-9 movie and recode it and copy it to a *single* DVD-5, so that everything is still there --- in otherwords, a "duplicate" of the original DVD-9 but at a lower bitrate ---- How will the quality of the finished product look? Will it be comparable to a two-disk SVCD rip? Will it be better than SuperVHS?

I wouldn't mind putting everything on a single DVD-5 if the quality stays high...

[PumpkinKing]

Timoleon,

It all depends on the length of the original movie as to how much you'll have to recompress it to fit it onto a single DVD. Most DVD's have a lot of extras on.. so the movie usually doesn't need compressing that much to make it fit.

All the movies I've ripped to DVD look pretty much identical to the original DVD copy, and *FAR EXCEED* SVCD/SVHS quality... which is basically a given due to the higher resolution. Use TMPEnc with 2 Pass VBR and highest quality motion precision, and let it do it's stuff.

On my PC it takes around 6-8 hours for an average 90-120min movie, but the results are worth it!

Good luck..

[ghoster]

well i just did The Green Mile other day and that movie is over 3 hours long. my bitrate was 2936 and it looks dam good. i don't think i will go any farther than 3 hours though, but there are not many movies that are 3 hours long or more out there.

[Adder_78]

Re-encoding dosent lower the image quality much... but like Timoleon says It all depends on the length of the original movie...

CCE gives the best quality... 8)



Zzzzzzzzzzz

[Wizeman]

On a Mac, it's even faster

My G4/800 w SuperDrive exports any input to MPEG-2 at roughly twice the movie length... so a 2 hour film is transcoded in (almost exactly) four hours. Thank God for OS X Backupped Godfather Part II (that was originally on 2 DVDs, 1 DVD-9 and one DVD-5...) onto one DVD-5 @ 3000 kbps and got to keep the original AC3 sound... *mwa*

/Wizeman

[tonyp12]

On a Mac, it's even faster
Thank God for OS X

Since when did the OS have anything to do with encoding speed?

It does not, it is about raw CPU horse power,
and PC's have more of that at a lower price.

I can get CCE to re-encode at 1x speed, if it is a 2 hours movie
it takes 2hours to encode.

But if you want better quility you want it to use more passes
it will take longer.

[Adder_78]

On a Mac, it's even faster

My G4/800 w SuperDrive exports any input to MPEG-2 at roughly twice the movie length... so a 2 hour film is transcoded in (almost exactly) four hours. Thank God for OS X Backupped Godfather Part II (that was originally on 2 DVDs, 1 DVD-9 and one DVD-5...) onto one DVD-5 @ 3000 kbps and got to keep the original AC3 sound... *mwa*

/Wizeman

well I get 1.5 X realtime speed with CCE... like tonyp12 sayd it's all about CPU (and also memory) speed... I'm so sorry 8)

Zzzzzzzzzzz

[medievil]

Did LOTR widescreen with CCE, took just over 2 hours and looks like the original on both small and bigscreen tv's at circuit city (It's my test dvd). File size including AC3 audio was under 4Gig.

[mol3000]

i no how to rip it... but what and how do i encode the .vob files to make it fit on one disk????? i read i could do it with rrmpeg (somehting like that) but cant find da program

[ImaWeTodd]

No offence intended, but you have been here almost 2 years and had 400+ posts, and you're asking about encoding? I read some of your past posts because I woundered if you were just playing around with your question. It seems you have used cce before. CCE is much better that the encoder you mentioned. I'm guessing you are toying with some of us dummies out here.

[rhuala2]

ghoster wrote:

well i just did The Green Mile other day and that movie is over 3 hours long. my bitrate was 2936 and it looks dam good

How'd you get the bitrate so specific. You have a good caluclator for TMPGEnc to optimize the DVD-R space? If so would you mind telling me how you got your bitrate so accurate, I can usually get it +/-100 to optimize disk space. thanks

rhuala

[ghoster]

nope just used pencil and paper. my ac3 files was like 500 megs so i brought up the bitrate till i had 500 megs left for audio.

[dc91gt]

I've got CCE, but I'm been too lazy to learn how to use it.. since it doesn't take the DV2 files that DV2AVI produces...

so i'm still using tmpgenc and VBR - it's slow but it works.. one of these days I'll look into what i need to do - to frame serv to cce.

-d

[Adder_78]

I've got CCE, but I'm been too lazy to learn how to use it.. since it doesn't take the DV2 files that DV2AVI produces...

so i'm still using tmpgenc and VBR - it's slow but it works.. one of these days I'll look into what i need to do - to frame serv to cce.

-d

yes it wont take directly those dvd2avi's d2v-files... but when you write this simple script with notepad it works fine(Doom9: copy&paste):

If you have CCE 2.50, CCE 2.64.01.10 or CCE 2.66 you can use Avisynth instead which is a bit more complicated, but also much faster. To use AviSynth start up notepad and paste the following lines into it:

LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\mpeg2dec.dll")
mpeg2source("D:\rmd\rmd.d2v")
ResampleAudio(44100)

Then replace the path of mpeg2dec.dll with the actual path of the file on your system and do the same for the mpeg2source command. The last line is used to trick CCE into believing that the input file has an audio track. Otherwise CCE would crash when being run on an AMD processor. Now save the file as movie.avs and make sure you set the filetype to All (*.*) before saving or you'll get a file called movie.avs.txt which Windows may show as movie.avs because it's not showing the extensions.


that's it... 8)

great guide for CCE:
http://www.doom9.org/mpg/cce-advanced.htm

Zzzzzzzzzzz

[EnemyWithin]

Also, if you have problems with CCE, try different versions of avisynth.dll and mpeg2dec.dll. I couldn't get it to work for me until I changed versions.

[baker]

CCE would crash when being run on an AMD processor

Why does CCE crash anyway? And why only on athlon processors? That last like really takes up encoding time, I have tested.

Baker

[EnemyWithin]

That last like really takes up encoding time, I have tested.

How so? I get 1.8x CCE speed on my AMD MP2100's.

[Adder_78]

CCE would crash when being run on an AMD processor

Why does CCE crash anyway? And why only on athlon processors? That last like really takes up encoding time, I have tested.

Baker

dont use that CCE audio part...!!! it still should be in the avs-file if you use AMD Athlon CPU... well I dont know why CCE could crash with athlon's... you should ask that from CCE developers or AMD

Zzzzzzzzzzzz

[Adder_78]

That last like really takes up encoding time, I have tested.

How so? I get 1.8x CCE speed on my AMD MP2100's.

avisynth is buttleneck for MP's... but still nice speed... 8)

Zzzzzzzzzzz

[baker]

I know all about the audio thingy and that I don't have to use it with pentium but ppl buy athlon as its cheaper and more powerful. A slower pentium would properly do the same job!

Baker

[Adder_78]

I know all about the audio thingy and that I don't have to use it with pentium but ppl buy athlon as its cheaper and more powerful. A slower pentium would properly do the same job!

Baker

I mean you should not use audio in CCE at all... only encode video...

Zzzzzzzzzzzz

[baker]

Maybe its just my imagination but even with the encode audio off I think it still slows the programme down as aviu synth is resampling. Even though its resmpling nothing!

Baker