Tmpg 2.56 and feeling vcd nostalgic in 2016

[mazinz]

I was looking at many of the (original) vcds I still have left and felt an appreciation for them after all these years. Made me a bit nostalgic and I wanted to create one now from something in the realms of a bluray source

The real funny part was how much info I did not remember after making a ton of them so many years ago that I found myself looking a few things up.

Tmpg 2.56 (mentioned in a post on here recently as the "undead encoder") sort of works in windows 74 64 bit. It may load your clip after a while but may not properly encode it (may give you a still frame for the length of the clip)

I found a way to get it working with Win 7. Womble (mpeg video wizard dvd 5.0 and other womble products like mpeg vcr), made a vfapi plugin that works with Tmpg's environmental setting (essentially a plugins menu). I opened up womble mpeg video wizard, dropped my clip on the time line and saved the project. I already have the vfapi plug inside the tmpg folder . After I selected the saved project file created with womble as my video source for Tmpg, it loaded up fine in the program. I made my vcd settings (along with the infamous soften macro block noise set to 19) and away we go-it worked fine doing this sort of frameserve. It was kind of nice playing around with Tmpg again after a number of years

I then went looking for something that could author and burn a vcd now (back then we had a slew of software from Adaptec, NTI, Nero, and I think videopack4 also burned a final project for you). Saw here in the tools section cdrtfe. It took my newly created mpeg clip and made my vcd 2.0 disc which worked fine in my dvd player

The source was bluray and I was very curious to see how this would look with a 2pass vcd bitrate of essentially nothing (had it max 1150, min of 1100 and average as 1150) . It surprisingly looked pretty good for the format. Better than the usual crap that most tended to be.

This is most likely helpful to no one except for those that still have tmpg 2.56 and need (for whatever reason) the software to work on win 7 64 bit, but I felt like sharing my story anyway

[ezcapper]

that reminds me of the first time I downloaded a youtube concert video and made a vcd disc to play on my CRT tv. It was an absolutely magical feeling to see the video play on the tv screen. I couldn't believe a video from the internet was playing on my tv screen and I had actually held the physical media in my hands. Before the internet, we used to pay $30 for something like that

[El Heggunte]

Tmpg 2.56

Mine is version 2.52, and it works without a glitch on Windows 7 x64.
All you have to do is a downgrade, I presume

[johnmeyer]

My biggest surprise is that you were able to get VfapiConv to work with Windows 7. I have posted a few tutorials of how to use it for frameserving. I wrote the tutorials for XP. A few years later I started getting comments on the YouTube video asking how to make it work with Win 7, especially the 64-bit version. So, while I'm not surprised the TMPGenc still works great for VCDs (I made a lot of them, along with SVCD and XVCDs, and still play them), getting VFapi to work is good stuff.

[davexnet]

Tmpgenc 2.5x also works well with Avisynth .avs files for it's source input.

[mazinz]

Tmpgenc 2.5x also works well with Avisynth .avs files for it's source input.

That I was not aware of and back then avisynth was out of my range in getting it to work or truly knowing what I was doing. Now its the opposite and that will come in handy

[mazinz]

My biggest surprise is that you were able to get VfapiConv to work with Windows 7. I have posted a few tutorials of how to use it for frameserving. I wrote the tutorials for XP. A few years later I started getting comments on the YouTube video asking how to make it work with Win 7, especially the 64-bit version. So, while I'm not surprised the TMPGenc still works great for VCDs (I made a lot of them, along with SVCD and XVCDs, and still play them), getting VFapi to work is good stuff.

should have mutli quoted.

Hmm I do not have that installed on my PC, unless it is part (internal) of the tmpg program?

[racer-x]

Only one question, Why?

I used to like to set valve lash on a solid lifter cam and dwell angle on a dual-point ignition distributor back in the day, but would I want to do it now? Hell no!

The old days are gone for a reason..........

[usually_quiet]

Only one question, Why?

Because he just wants to see if he can do it? I doubt that there is a practical reason.

I know mazinz prefers watching all video on an SD CRT TV, but I'm sure he's aware that converting from Blu-ray to DVD would be an easier and higher quality solution for watching movies using a ODD player with analog video out.

[mazinz]

Only one question, Why?

I used to like to set valve lash on a solid lifter cam and dwell angle on a dual-point ignition distributor back in the day, but would I want to do it now? Hell no!

The old days are gone for a reason..........

don't take this rudely but did you read my first few sentences of this topic?

:myself

Tmpg 2.56 and feeling vcd nostalgic in 2016

I was looking at many of the (original) vcds I still have left and felt an appreciation for them after all these years. Made me a bit nostalgic and I wanted to create one now from something in the realms of a bluray source

Because he just wants to see if he can do it? I doubt that there is a practical reason.

I know mazinz prefers watching all video on an SD CRT TV, but I'm sure he's aware that converting from Blu-ray to DVD would be an easier and higher quality solution for watching movies using a ODD player with analog video out.

You nailed it on the head. Have not made one in many many years. I opened up a drawer where all of my old originals and some burns still live. Felt all nostalgic and said "let's make one today"

Totally not against Hd tv's and I do snag some 4k blurays ( if you are into horror and a Sci-fi, the releases that a few companies are cranking out these days with all new 2 and 4k scans has been amazing - You can still see that nice transfer even in a crt).


In the end it was for fun and vcds do look much much better from a Bluray super source

[racer-x]

OK, to each their own. Have fun creating something only you can appreciate.

Maybe one day I'll get the urge to build a Flat Head V8 or an an old Pan Head Harley. Maybe not.

[mazinz]

OK, to each their own. Have fun creating something only you can appreciate.

Maybe one day I'll get the urge to build a Flat Head V8 or an an old Pan Head Harley. Maybe not.

sometimes you feel like a nut sometimes you don't.

The one benefit using a PC nowadays was what used to take like 2 days to encode now took about 90 mins checking the "pipline" options in tmpg. So even with filtering and "slowest speed" 90 mins-

[vhelp]

The real funny part was how much info I did not remember after making a ton of them so many years ago that I found myself looking a few things up.

Yea, i just started TMPEnc 2.5 the other day, hadn't used in probably five years. It took me a moment to remember how I used it and encoded to MPEG. But also, now I can't remember how to author a dvd. Not trying to put a movie or anything like that on a disc. Just a .VOB or .ISO file onto a DVD so i can test a vcr's performance. Anyway. I'm in the guides now, but can't find anything. I thought it was IfoEdit (remember that?) but its not what I need. Still searching as I type this. Anyway. Nothing wrong with nostalgic moments.

[eots]

I was looking at many of the (original) vcds I still have left and felt an appreciation for them after all these years. Made me a bit nostalgic and I wanted to create one now from something in the realms of a bluray source

The real funny part was how much info I did not remember after making a ton of them so many years ago that I found myself looking a few things up.

Tmpg 2.56 (mentioned in a post on here recently as the "undead encoder") sort of works in windows 74 64 bit. It may load your clip after a while but may not properly encode it (may give you a still frame for the length of the clip)

I found a way to get it working with Win 7. Womble (mpeg video wizard dvd 5.0 and other womble products like mpeg vcr), made a vfapi plugin that works with Tmpg's environmental setting (essentially a plugins menu). I opened up womble mpeg video wizard, dropped my clip on the time line and saved the project. I already have the vfapi plug inside the tmpg folder . After I selected the saved project file created with womble as my video source for Tmpg, it loaded up fine in the program. I made my vcd settings (along with the infamous soften macro block noise set to 19) and away we go-it worked fine doing this sort of frameserve. It was kind of nice playing around with Tmpg again after a number of years

I then went looking for something that could author and burn a vcd now (back then we had a slew of software from Adaptec, NTI, Nero, and I think videopack4 also burned a final project for you). Saw here in the tools section cdrtfe. It took my newly created mpeg clip and made my vcd 2.0 disc which worked fine in my dvd player

The source was bluray and I was very curious to see how this would look with a 2pass vcd bitrate of essentially nothing (had it max 1150, min of 1100 and average as 1150) . It surprisingly looked pretty good for the format. Better than the usual crap that most tended to be.

This is most likely helpful to no one except for those that still have tmpg 2.56 and need (for whatever reason) the software to work on win 7 64 bit, but I felt like sharing my story anyway

Me and you must be twins separated at birth =) I used to work at Catco in 2001-2002 and we made 3 Transformers The Movie VCDs from our license deal with Hasbro/Marvel for that time for the SouthEast Asia market. Basically one was a 2 disc VCD (released which is rare) from PC capture, one was a Terapin transfer of D-Theater "master tape" on 2 discs they sent us (I no longer have that tape) and one was not released, which was my version on 1 VCD.
It played on my Terapin VCD Home Player (Best MPEG1 codec ever well maybe tied with tmpg ha but the pickiest seriously terapin is picky).

The source was D-Theater "master" of movie, s video out to s video in of capture card to PC. PC burn (4x speed) played flawlessly in Terapin which got me the nickname VCD King around the office. Now a days I take UHD movies (2000x2000) and squeeze them intro 352x320 VCDs to watch on my JVC XV680B (vcd, dvd etc player) and Oppo 80 player (vcd, dvd, blu ray, usb etc) or regular portable player so if power goes out (no light, no internet) I could still watch a movie on my porch =) What those 2 devices do is upscale the 352 image to 1920x1080p (basically almost restoring 2000 frame) but it looks outstanding. I take WMV (which is the "successor" of AVI but still contains some code which is why tmpg can only transer a avi, asf or wmv file not mp4 etc) at the highest settings to very very specific tmpg VCD settings. Anyway my UHD to VCD transfers look better than VHS, Beta, DVD and almost regular Blu Ray. Imagine that, a 1993 codec on par with regular Blu Ray quality at a 25gb to 650mb reduction.