Edited with VRD now need music?

[mccoady]

I'm new to video editing so bear with me if I have the wrong forum (if so maybe it can be moved). I'm trying out VideoReDo to edit 8mm home movies and it seems to work well and not too hard for me... although kind of expensive.

Anyway I've edited my movies into ISO files but now how do I add music to them because it appears VRD can't do that?

[usually_quiet]

I'm new to video editing so bear with me if I have the wrong forum (if so maybe it can be moved). I'm trying out VideoReDo to edit 8mm home movies and it seems to work well and not too hard for me... although kind of expensive.

Anyway I've edited my movies into ISO files but now how do I add music to them because it appears VRD can't do that?

VideoReDo's editors are designed to work with multiplexed video and audio. They are mostly used to edit recorded TV shows or video game captures which often have defects that tend to cause difficulties with other editors. The only thing VideoReDo TV Suite H.264 can do with elementary streams is multiplex them with the Elementary Streams Multiplexer in its Tools menu. VideoReDo Plus doesn't include a multiplexer.

You probably want to use other software if you need to edit separate video and audio tracks at the same in one program. Look at Sony Movie Studio 13 Platinum. It has a beginner mode and an advanced mode.

[mccoady]

Usually_quiet is there no free software that can take my ISO file or DVD of the movie (or I can convert to something different) and let me add some MP3 files to it as a soundtrack?

[aedipuss]

first you'd probably be better off going back to the original source files and starting over. but inside the iso are the files you could pull to re-edit. either use something like isobuster or winrar to open and extract the video_ts folder or burn it to dvd and copy the files off that. that's assuming you made a compliant dvd to begin with.

to add audio. first you need to know mp3 is not allowed on dvd. it has to be ac3 or pcm audio if there is only one track.

here a list of editors that might do what you want. i've been using vegas so long i no longer check out any others. a couple are freeware, but some of the big names used to offer 30 day free trials you might look into something like vegas studio or any of the others. https://www.videohelp.com/software/sections/video-editors-advanced

[usually_quiet]

Usually_quiet is there no free software that can take my ISO file or DVD of the movie (or I can convert to something different) and let me add some MP3 files to it as a soundtrack?

There is nothing that can add music to an existing burned DVD, DVD ISO, or DVD file and folder structure.

You will have to do the following.
1. Convert the video from the DVD to one or more elementary m2v files.
2. Edit the mp3 and/or the m2v file(s) to be the same length.
3. If you want another DVD at the end of the process, the audio has to be converted from mp3 to either ac3 or wav. mp3 is not permitted by the DVD spec.
4. The video and audio have to be multiplexed together in one or more files or authored as a new DVD.

Steps 1 - 4 above can be done with free software and VideoReDo, but you will have to use multiple tools, and I (or someone else) will have to write a detailed guide for you. That may take some time to get done. It would be easier to get the video and adio matched up using the free trial of a good commercial editor.

[mccoady]

@aedipuss
It would pretty easy to have VRD export my movie as a video_ts folder (instead of ISO file) if that's what you mean.

I burned the movie to a DVD RW but guess I haven't tried to play it in a DVD player yet just computer just assumed it would play.

What I was wanting to do with the music was add several songs as a soundtrack to my home movie.

@usually_quiet
Are you saying Movie Studio trial will let me do all I want? Using VRD I was able to create & name Chapters the way I want it will this stay intact?

[usually_quiet]

@usually_quiet
Are you saying Movie Studio trial will let me do all I want? Using VRD I was able to create & name Chapters the way I want it will this stay intact?

Try the free version of VOB2MPG on the DVD once you have unzipped it from the ISO. I suspect the resulting mpg file (or files) from VOBtoMPG will be easier for most editors to work with than VOB files.

I mostly edit TV shows that I have recorded and don't try to add my own audio, so VideoReDo and similar are all I really need. Although I have not used it personally, I know that Movie Studio Platinum allows adding multiple audio files to create a single audio track and would make it easier to align the video and music.

Sorry, but I doubt that you can keep the chapters, unless they were authored on the DVD as separate titles.

[mccoady]

@usually_quiet
Are you saying Movie Studio trial will let me do all I want? Using VRD I was able to create & name Chapters the way I want it will this stay intact?

Try the free version of VOB2MPG on the DVD once you have unzipped it from the ISO. I suspect the resulting mpg file (or files) from VOBtoMPG will be easier for most editors to work with than VOB files.

I mostly edit TV shows that I have recorded and don't try to add my own audio, so VideoReDo and similar are all I really need. Although I have not used it personally, I know that Movie Studio Platinum allows adding multiple audio files to create a single audio track and would make it easier to align the video and music.

Sorry, but I doubt that you can keep the chapters, unless they were authored on the DVD as separate titles.

Here's how I made my DVD with Chapters. My 83 year old mother had quite a few 8mm tapes of home movies and we sent them in to a company that transferred them all to 7 DVDs. I then used VRD to pull segments out of each DVD to make a home movie that included just my uncle's family. I saved each segment individually so VRD would make everyone of these it's own Chapter.

I have the menu just the way I want but you are saying to add music it might all change, correct?

[usually_quiet]

@usually_quiet
Are you saying Movie Studio trial will let me do all I want? Using VRD I was able to create & name Chapters the way I want it will this stay intact?

Try the free version of VOB2MPG on the DVD once you have unzipped it from the ISO. I suspect the resulting mpg file (or files) from VOBtoMPG will be easier for most editors to work with than VOB files.

I mostly edit TV shows that I have recorded and don't try to add my own audio, so VideoReDo and similar are all I really need. Although I have not used it personally, I know that Movie Studio Platinum allows adding multiple audio files to create a single audio track and would make it easier to align the video and music.

Sorry, but I doubt that you can keep the chapters, unless they were authored on the DVD as separate titles.

Here's how I made my DVD with Chapters. My 83 year old mother had quite a few 8mm tapes of home movies and we sent them in to a company that transferred them all to 7 DVDs. I then used VRD to pull segments out of each DVD to make a home movie that included just my uncle's family. I saved each segment individually so VRD would make everyone of these it's own Chapter.

I have the menu just the way I want but you are saying to add music it might all change, correct?

Sorry. but none of this information is helpful to me. I don't use VideoReDo to author DVDs. I use other software for DVD authoring. Try VOBtoMPG on the DVD and see if it extracts each "chapter" individually in its own mpg file, or if all of them together make up one mpg file.

[mccoady]

Ok thanks!

[glenpinn]

Steps 1 - 4 above can be done with VideoReDo, but you will have to use multiple tools, and I (or someone else) will have to write a detailed guide for you. That may take some time to get done. It would be easier to get the video and adio matched up using the free trial of a good commercial editor.

Yes you are correct, 2 tools at least, in my case VRD and Audacity.

I am a Beta tester for VRD, so i know the workings of its Elementary and Multiplexing tool, and it can be very tricky for a beginner to learn, once learnt, it becomes 2nd nature.

You must create your video in VRD in whatever format you choose, then you create an Elementary stream from that video which splits the video and audio track into 2 files, you then delete the audio track and retain the video stream without its audio track.

You then have to find the exact duration of the video, and then use an audio tool such as Audacity to create a single AAC, AC3 or WAV audio track which is the same duration as the video (it can be slightly shorter, but not longer) and it can be created using multiple music tracks to gain the desired duration, and the reason for creating one single audio track is because the VRD Multiplexing tool only lets you import one audio track.

Once your audio track is done, you then use the Multiplexing tool in VRD to import the Elementary video file and your audio track and output to whatever format you like.

The process for doing what mccoady wants to do can be done, but not from an Iso, but it can be from a Dvd folder, but it will be quite strenuous and time consuming.

In this case with Dvd, i suggest extracting the Dvd folder from the Iso, then use the Quick Stream Fix tool in VRD to create a single Mpeg2 program stream from the dvd folder, then create an Elementary video stream from that, and get rid of the original audio track, then find the exact duration of the video (as explained above) and then create an AC3 music track to fit the video.

You then multiplex those 2 files back to an Mpeg2 program stream using the built in Mpeg2 program stream profile, so no need to create your own.

Then you can open the Dvd creation tool, and output the Mpeg2 file to Dvd (Authors the Dvd) and if your music track is not Dvd compliant, VRD will convert the audio to the correct Dvd compliant format, depending if its Pal or NTSC.

VRD then creates the Dvd folder, and you can burn it to disc using the built in burning tool, and i think you can save the Dvd as an Iso if that is your preference, me personally i just make the Dvd folder.

VRD has a wonderful User Forum that is manned by the Developers, and they are always there to help out, as too are other very active and knowledgeable users of VRD, including myself when i have the time.

Cheers

[usually_quiet]

I just looked at the multiplexer for VideoReDo TV Suite H.264. AC3 is listed as an import option for audio. In NTSC countries like the USA, technically mp2 is not allowed as the only audio track for DVD video, but AC3 and WAV are. WAV isn't used much because of the size, but I know there are free AC3 encoders that can convert WAV to AC3.

[glenpinn]

I just looked at the multiplexer for VideoReDo TV Suite H.264. AC3 is listed as an import option for audio. In NTSC countries like the USA, technically mp2 is not allowed as the only audio track for DVD video, but AC3 and WAV are. WAV isn't used much because of the size, but I know there are free AC3 encoders that can convert WAV to AC3.

My apologies, i got a few things mixed up there, yes VRD will import AC3 and WAV as well as AAC, and if you create your video using a non compliant audio format then VRD will convert it to the correct format when it creates the Dvd.

I will correct my notes in my previous post.

Cheers