How can I Stream 3D from computer to Samsung "3D Ready" DLP TV

[SonnyVids]

3D formats and all are still new to me and I'm trying to make the following work:

I've downloaded 3D, mp4 files which are HSBS (side by side) and am trying to play them to my Samsung LED DLP, 3D Ready TV
(model HLT-5687S) which reads "checkerboard" format. I have a Panasonic BMT310 which outputs in checkerboard.

So, I thought playing the file through my computer through the HDMI out port on the video card to the TV would work but it's not.
And I'm not sure that its because I don't have a video card that outputs in 3D.

I play the file through either PowerDVD which outputs checkerboard or Tridef player which also outputs checkerboard. Im using the correct glasses for DLP-Link which works when I use the Panasonic player.

So can someone tell me what I can do or what I'm doing wrong.

My next step is to re-encode the mp4 to AVCHD and copy that to DVD to see if playing that through the player will work bypassing the computer.
The TV does not sense that 3D content is entering because the "DLP 3D view" does not light up.
This is all still new to me, thanks for any help.

[Cornucopia]

First, you should understand that the model you are talking about (Samsung HL-T5687S) is a DLP TV, not an LED nor LED/LCD TV. There is no such product available as a LED DLP TV.

Second, that model is likely one of those checkerboard formats (which existed in earlier models just when 3D was becoming available, but which did NOT exist in later models), however there is no easily available manual addendum that goes into detail about any of the 3D capabilities of that whole class of products (the standard owner's manual has a total of 2 useless lines "see..."). So I'm going by historical knowledge of the general class of those 3D devices.

Third, are you attempting to play the file in the PC but using the BDPlayer as a passthrough? I don't think it allows that.
If you are attempting to play the file directly to the TV but using the checkerboard viewing output format, and that is not working, then there does seem to be something wrong. Does you HTPC support HDMI 1.4? (It is necessary). Does any of this work when outputting directly as HSbS?

It is very possible that because it is coming from a file player and using checkerboard, that the player software might not be including the 3D SEI signalling necessary for automatic engagement of 3D. This is likely because the 3D SEI was really only mandated once the 3DBD spec became in effect, and this was subsequent to common usage of the checkerboard format. Thus, when outputting in checkerboard formatting, since the models of TVs intended to use checkerboard don't expect SEI, the programmers of the software might have chosen to not include SEI during the output of checkerboard.

If that BD player supports AVCHD, that is a good way to check, but it wouldn't really rule out the possibility of the TV seeing the SEI or not.

Regardless, you should still be able to output as HSbS (via either device) and manually engage your Samsung TV to 3D mode (using the "Side-by-Side" input mode).

Scott

[SonnyVids]

Thank you Cornucopia for some insight.
The TV really is an LED DLP (uses a Red Blue and Green LED to output the color) and it does not allow me to manually set it to 3D. It appears that it has to read that the content is formatted for 3D and then it lets me turn on the IR emitter.

That's the main issue I believe. I just used multiAVCHD (works incredibly well and fast) to convert the SBS 3D files to AVCHD. Which I then played on the Blu-ray player but it appears the TV did not sense it is 3D and just played the file "as-is" which is SBS, the Panasonic 310 did not convert it to checker board, which it is capable of doing.

Granted I copied the file to a DVD+R. If I play the Disc through my computer - CyberLink's PowerDVD outputs in checker board whether it reads formatting or not I believe. But I cannot view through my monitor as it is not 3D capable.

So I basically want to know if the procejure I am using is correct with taking a 3D SBS mp4 file, then converting with multiAVCHD to output that SBS to disc where the BR player should then see its a 3D file, convert to checker board and turn on the emitter on the TV.

In multiAVCHD I am checking off that it is SBS L/R and to output SBS (as it does not offer checkerboard.

Just trying to convert these files successfully to checkerboard .. maybe Im also going wrong because Im copying to DVD.. I just don't know and need educating.. thanks again.

[Cornucopia]

You were correct: that tv IS a LED DLP. A rare breed indeed. Sorry for doubting you.

Here is a 3rd party document about setting up for 3D with checkerboard 3D DLP TVs (both Samsung & Mitsubishi). Hopefully it will guide you in the right direction. One thing I note of importance: you need to be using the HDMI3 port. http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&sqi=2&ved=0CDkQFjAE&url...,d.aWw&cad=rja

One thing you should NOT be doing with your conversions is encode a file as checkerboard. The checkerboard is a 3D uncompressed transmission/display format only. Modern MPEG codecs would/will ruin the 3D picture because the alternating viewpoints causes the blocks to not follow standard optical similarity from pixel to pixel, wreaking havoc with motion search, etc.

Hope that helps,

Scott

[SonnyVids]

Thanks Scott for your help. I see you try to help many which makes you a valuable asset here and it is very much appreciated.

yes, I have also seen this doc. which helps. But I seem to be missing part of the puzzle with the file or conversion to disc as something is not telling the TV it is a 3D file coming in to turn on the 3D function.

I would love to hear what steps someone takes to successfully take a 3D file (like an mp4) transfer it to a DVD for playback on a Blu-ray and have the TV recognize it.
( in my case with the older 2007 "3D Ready" DLP process) thanks