HD DVD

[donzelli]

Hi all,

Does anybody knows any 'region free' HD DVD player?

Another one,
I have a Sony HDR-HC3 camcorder and I can put the HD recording on a standar DVD.
However, I cannot play this DVD in a standard DVD player, but I can play it on my computer.
Does anybody knows if I could it play in a HD DVD player?

tante grazie
ciao

[BJ_M]

HD-DVD is region free

#2 - probably not

[yoda313]

regarding the second one I thought I read you could put maybe a half hour of high def on standard dvd??? Though I don't know about playback compatibility... also I don't have any high def players so no way to test it....

probably a forum search might turn up something.

[guns1inger]

Roxio and possibly some of the new Ulead tools do allow for limited HD authoring to standard DVD blanks. Yes, the running time is limited due to capacity. No, they will not play in standard DVD players because they are not standard DVDs. They are HD DVD format, and require a HD DVD player. If you want HD footage to play on a standard DVD player then you have to encode and author it to DVD specifications.

[jman98]

regarding the second one I thought I read you could put maybe a half hour of high def on standard dvd???

This is like saying you can only fit "2 hours of a video on a single layer DVD disc". It all depends on the bit rate. You can certainly fit more than 30 minutes of HD video on a standard DVD if you drop the bit rate. Whether doing so is a good idea or not is a valid question, but there are no limits like what you read implies. A bit rate of about 20100 Kpbs would allow for about 30 minutes of video on a single layer DVD, but if the bit rate was 13000 you could fit 45 minutes on a disc and so on.

[edDV]

...but there are no limits like what you read implies. A bit rate of about 20100 Kpbs would allow for about 30 minutes of video on a single layer DVD, but if the bit rate was 13000 you could fit 45 minutes on a disc and so on.

But it won't play on anything but a computer.

DVD must meet DVD standards to play in a standard player.
https://www.videohelp.com/dvd
Non-standard Xvid/Divx solutions are limited by the specific player's specs.

You can make a DVD-5 or DVD-9 to HD DVD standards and it will play in a HD DVD player.
Follow the middle right column on this chart. Standard DVD is the right column.

http://www.dvdforum.org/images/Forum_HD_DVD_Universal_24.pdf

[donzelli]

Thank you all guys for your teaching.
I really appreciate that.

[theewizard]

there is a big difference between writing/storing the camera's file on a data DVD and creating a video DVD

the files are entirely different formats and different specs

to but HD on video DVD to play in a dvd player it must be converted to the lower res of 720*480 and then authored

it will no longer be in HD format

I have NO idea, if and HD player will play a standard DVD or if it will play a st DVD disc with HD files on it

[GeorgeW]

I have NO idea, if and HD player will play a standard DVD or if it will play a st DVD disc with HD files on it

When you burn HD-DVD format to regular DVD5/9 discs, they call it "3X DVD" I've used Ulead's DVD MovieFactory 5 Plus (now 6 Plus) to burn HD-DVD format to DVD5 discs (which played as HD-DVD in the Toshiba HD-DVD Players).

Regards,
George

[theewizard]

interesting, the run time must be extremely limited if the material is in 1080i

[Cornucopia]

Boy, I wish they'd stop calling it "3X DVD", that's just a stupid name!
Why don't they follow historical precedence and use "Mini HD-DVD" or just "MiniHD"?

BTW, all HD and BD players thus far (and likely ALL future players) support DVD playback (it's trivial to include, as it constitutes a "subset" of their specs).
and...
Run time on available disc space is ALWAYS a function of bitrate.

Scott

[theewizard]

Run time on available disc space is ALWAYS a function of bitrate.

yes.. but whats the use of putting hi-def on DVD if your going to reduce the bitrate and make it look bad ( might as well convert to std DVD format ) and get better overall results

a hi-res grainy picture ( low bit rate ) is still a grainy picture

and yes I like min-HD-dvd better than "3x dvd"

[Cornucopia]

Overall, I agree with you, theewizard, but it's also dependant upon actual program material.

For example, you could get away with a HiDef "slideshow" using quite low bitrate, since the only thing that might change would be the slides' transitions.

Or similarly, a Music-only/Music-priority disc...

Scott

[donzelli]

BJ_M,

Are you sure about region free HD DVD?
I was doing some search and I found the Toshiba HD-A2 is not region free.
Could you please tell me where did you get that information?

cheers

[videopoo]

Do you have a link?

[BJ_M]

there is no region encoding - currently .... afaik

a google search says much he same thing

things could always change

[pepegot1]

Buying this HD stuff is like buying a Hydrogen car (assume you can get one.) Where do you get the fuel for it? What about repairs? Discs, recorders, software, etc., are in their infancy, or non existent, vis-a-vis this new technology. It's like getting Vista and expecting all your software, new and old, to run smoothly on it. It takes time before this technology matures. I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole-Now! Yet these rapacious vendors push on to create organized chaos. Then, you hear complaints as to why this or that does not work properly. Patience, will yield marked improvement and lower prices.

[skaterboii]

HD DVD discs aren't region encoded, but Bluray discs are, so there you go.

[Nilfennasion]

Given that region coding is easier to defeat than CSS, it should not be used as the great point of decision between the two in any event.