ripped VOBs compared to actual movies

[dimtim]

Ok so I ripped some widescreen VOBs with DVD decrypter and I played them on my tv out card through one input and watched the actual dvd on another input. I flipped between them and the actual DVD has smaller black bars on the tops and bottoms than the VOBs. Is this the player or what? I would like to be able to rip dvds to my computer and play them on my TV through my tv out card with the same size as the original. Do I need to change the aspect ratio of the VOBs when I encode them to MPEG4 or what. This was weird because I thought VOBs were the exact same thing as the original movie.

Thanks a ton
Tim

[manono]

Hi-

Assuming that the vobs are being played with proper AR on the computer using video out to the TV, I'd guess this is just an overscan issue. That is, you always lose video that's not shown on the TV screen. To confirm, you might also check carefully to see if you're losing video off the sides when playing the DVD through the standalone, and you're not losing any, or are losing less, when using the video out.

[dimtim]

Ok so I found out that the DVD was cutting off the sides of the movie and the VOBs that I ripped weren't. Why is that? I bought the widescreen dvds so that I could get the full picture and my tv or dvd player is automatically resizing it or something. Any of you know how I can fix this?

Thanks
Tim

[thecoalman]

Ok so I found out that the DVD was cutting off the sides of the movie and the VOBs that I ripped weren't. Why is that? I bought the widescreen dvds so that I could get the full picture and my tv or dvd player is automatically resizing it or something. Any of you know how I can fix this?

Thanks
Tim

Probably the DVD player, look in the menu. there's usually selections for the default display.

[dimtim]

Ok so I found out that the DVD was cutting off the sides of the movie and the VOBs that I ripped weren't. Why is that? I bought the widescreen dvds so that I could get the full picture and my tv or dvd player is automatically resizing it or something. Any of you know how I can fix this?

Thanks
Tim

[manono]

I hear an echo in here.

It's the TV overscan. All TV sets (the old fashioned standard interlaced ones, anyway) have it to a greater or lesser degree. It's common to lose 5-10% of the picture. Unless you're willing to go into your service menu and adjust the overscan a bit (not for the faint of heart, as you can really screw things up by doing that), I'm afraid you're stuck. Also, some DVD players crop the picture even more, making a bad situation even worse. There are some DVD players that allow you to adjust the size of the picture in small increments (one of the Malata's, I believe, and maybe others), so you can get rid of the overscan.

And it has nothing to do with the vobs you ripped. Your TV out allows you to see the entire picture without the overscan.

[monzie]

Some (read MOST) TV-Outs (from the gfx card) downsize the video displayed on the TV (by adding borders) to enable you to see the Windows "START" button ....if they didnt 'typical' TV overscan would never let you see it as it would be 'masked'......most CRT based TV's overscan by around 10%.....(in other words the outer edges of the TV picture is never seen on a typical TV, regardless of its source)....which would cripple pc to TV via TV-out........the START button would be missing from the TV display making the exercise pretty pointless.

[TooLFooL]

yeah i agree with monzie, it's probably your card's tv-out. play the DVD on your PC using the tv-out and see if it's different