A good program to join a wave file to a video file ????

[Draven]

I'm looking for a easy program to join wave with a mpeg file.I do music videos and want to add the original audio to it.I've tried with TMPGEnc and de-multiplex the original mpg file and then converted it with the wave(original) file.But the audio is sooo out of sync , and yes i know i can use the "audio gap corrector" in TMPGEnc .But that solution is undoable.So is there a program there you could change and listen etc...to the result before you save????Anyone help please ... or am i wasting my time????

[dinesh]

I am not sure you can use Audio Gap correction in TMPGEnc while multiplexing.
Try the following method.
Open the Mpeg file in VirtualDub.
Select Audio-> WAV Audio and select your wave file.
Select a small range in VirtualDub where the sync may be prevalent and preview your video.
Select Audio -> interleaving and set the Delay value (-ve or +ve).
Preview and correct till you are satisfied. Note down the final delay value(ms).
Open your WAV file in a sound editor and if you have a -ve delay value cut off that much range from the begining. If you have a +ve value add that much silence.
Save your wav file, convert it to mp2 and multiplex.

[Draven]

Thanks man. I'll try it .....

[dumwaldo]

now i could be wrong here but i think you are suggesting more than needed.

since you can not multiplex wav audio with mpg video i am guessing you are re-encoding to join your audio and video.

first what you need to do is get rid of the wav audio. convert it to mp2 with cool edit or something like that.

there is no need to de-multiplex your original video, just open the mpeg tools in TMPGEnc and use the "Simple Multiplex" tool. select your mpg file for the video source, this will automatically fill in the audio feild because you have audio currently attached to the file. that does not mean you HAVE to use that audio source. just click browse and find your mp2 file and load that as the audio source. then all you need to do is name the output file and hit the run button.

this should take far less time than needlessly re-encoding a file that already has VCD compliant video. i think your problem has been that you havent previously converted your audio to mp2 and you are using TMPGEnc to re-encode both the audio and video when you dont need to and there are better options for converting the audio.

in the situation i think you described above there is no need to do anything more than a simple multiplex using TMPGEnc, and there definatley is no need to bring VirtualDub into it if you are looking to make a VCD. just prepare your audio file in the correct format and im sure you will have no problems.

[dinesh]

dumwaldo,
The method I suggested was to overcome the desync problem. TMPGEnc does not have an audio correction while multiplexing. The audio should be corrected before multiplexing. The method I suggested only outlines what one could do to check and sync your audio. VirtualDub is being used only to derive the audio time delay.It is not at all used to reencode. I have mentioned a step to correct this audio using a sound editor. I have not detailed a multiplexing step and you have filled that gap.

[Draven]

It worked fine to adjust the wave in virtualdub then edit it in easy cd creator and then convert the mpeg with the wave in TMPGEnc.But when i deal with music videos from live concerts etc... you can't get the wave file to sync with the video can you???(if the original video isn't from that specific concert that is) .So is there any way to get a better audio performance in the original mpeg video??
And anyway thanks for the suggestions..

[dumwaldo]

dumwaldo,
The method I suggested was to overcome the desync problem. TMPGEnc does not have an audio correction while multiplexing.

you are correct there however you CAN NOT multiplex wav audio so he must be re-encoding the file. my point is that to multiplex in the first place you need to convert the audio to mp2 and by the posters repete refrence to his wav files i have to figure he didnt do that.

now just to be clear... .wav is a non standard audio stream for VCD's, it CAN NOT be used to create a VCD. you MUST use mp2 audio to create a VCD. if you use wav audio then you have no choice but to re-encode your mpg again and because you are using a non standard audio stream you will loose sync. the answer is to USE THE CORRECT AUDIO STREAM and you can multiplex the way you are suppose to instead of re-encoding the video.

the point you are missing i think is that this person is not multiplexing, he is re-encoding. you can not multiplex a wav file.

draven could you please explain CLEARLY what the hell you are doing. include the steps you have followed. it now sounds to me like you were trying to use the audio from one concert and the video from a different concert. if thats the case then of course they dont sync. they are from different performances and have completely different timing.

BTW
"So is there any way to get a better audio performance in the original mpeg video?"
my psychic abilities are on the fritz today, if you could explain what you are doing in the first place i might be able to suggest ways to improve the audio but since you didnt explain what you are doing any better i cant really offer help. i think you can see from the replies you have here that your question is confusing and lacks important information. if you could explain what you are doing with at least the level of detail dinesh used in his reply i am sure we could offer you decent answers and help

[dinesh]

Oops!! I am sorry if I was wrong or misleading. From Draven's first post this is what I assumed. He had a mpg file whose audio was bad and wanted to use the "original" wav file. Here the original I assumed was perhaps a better audio of the same song and a different source say CD.
My post explains how to use the video and the "other" audio source and derive the sync difference. Draven, if this is not what you were looking for, please ignore my post.
dumwaldo,
You had mentioned,

you can not multiplex a wav file

Yes That's why I have also mentioned that in my first post,last line that the wav be converted to mp2 and multiplexed.

[Draven]

Sorry if my questions are confusing , but dinesh got it right from the start, so i really asked him the other question to. My problem is that i really want to get a better audio quality from my music videos. And as i said with non "live" music videos, it goes fine with dinesh suggestions.And if the original audio comes from a cd and you convert it to mp2 it come out with the best quality i've heard so far.... And back to the "live" videos... of course if i don't have the original "live" cd from that concert ,only God could convert it.. So.. i've heard that if you increase the bitrate in the mp2 file that comes with the "live" music video you get a better audio performance ,but on the other hand the sync problem may then be a problem again... I've got a pretty expensive audio equipment here backhome that's way i'm wasting my time with this right now...And thanks again dinesh ..i've got some pretty old videos with a good digital sound now.....

[dirk67]

It all depends on your standalone DVD player. Just try using a higher bitrate. If your player supports, it, fine, if not, you just have to keep 224 kbps.