SVCD Very Pixcelly?

[hipster dufus]

Hi all,

Forgive my ignorance but when ever i try to encode avi to SVCD using TMPGEnc i use all default settings for a Pal SVCD.

Now my problem is in very fast scenes i get a quality of film that is VERY PIXCELLY (if there is such a word). Is that normal? I know it can't be as good as a DVD quality movie but thats why i invested in a DVD that plays back SVCD.

I would like to know from u guyz/gals (that's for the pollitically correct people out there) your PAL settings. Like i said b4 i used the defalut settings for a PAL SVCD.


THANX IN ADVANCE!!!!!!!!!!

[Baldrick]

First tell us what format the avi source is in. Like DivX,XviD, ASF or some captured material like DV, huffyuv,mjpeg.

[hipster dufus]

To be quite honest Baldrick i don't relly know. I got it from the net. It's an avi 1 1/2 hr movie and the size is approx 620 meg. Does that help?

[nickerous]

I've made many svcds with tmpgenc and am going to make many more. Every one of them has this form of pixelation in heavy action scenes. If anyone knows how to get rid of it, I'd be very interested in knowing how.

My AVIs are captured in DV format. My settings in tmpgenc are: Noise reduction, highest motion search, inverse telecine, and I bump the audio to 100%. My bit rate is 2520. The wizard in tmpgenc will not let me go any higher than that. I think that is because if i go any higher, the resulting bit rate of video and audio will be over 2600.

The effect isn't all that annoying. I can live with it, but still would like to get rid of it if possible. It looks like poor vcd quality when it appears, but since it is only in action scenes, it goes away quickly.

[corob4]

I've made many svcds with tmpgenc and am going to make many more. Every one of them has this form of pixelation in heavy action scenes. If anyone knows how to get rid of it, I'd be very interested in knowing how.

My AVIs are captured in DV format. My settings in tmpgenc are: Noise reduction, highest motion search, inverse telecine, and I bump the audio to 100%. My bit rate is 2520. The wizard in tmpgenc will not let me go any higher than that. I think that is because if i go any higher, the resulting bit rate of video and audio will be over 2600.

The effect isn't all that annoying. I can live with it, but still would like to get rid of it if possible. It looks like poor vcd quality when it appears, but since it is only in action scenes, it goes away quickly.

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you can get the bitrate higher by makeing your own template and not useing the standard ones
1. close wisard and load svcd pal/ntcs template
2. load film
3. load > in folder tmpg> extras > unlock, this now unlocks the settings
4. settings > do vbr 2pass> settings > change the max first or it wont let you go above the max
then change average and min to your liking.
use a bitrate calculator for actuall fit or
set the file how you want then click save> save as name.of.movie.mcf
and now you have a template for that movie
you then can use the wisard with your template to get file size right if you cant or dont want to use a extrenal bitrate calculator > you can find a few free one under tools <<< over on the left
i have found useing a made template that the video size under settings> advanced> video arange metod will not stay the same unless its default
so you have to change this on every template , if you want the ratio to be diffrent etc....
hope that helps for bit rate part
one last thing as he said above some players will take it some wont so i would look up your dvdplayer on the left under dvdplayers and see what other users have found works for your player. ultimatly you will have to try it and see if it works for your own one.

[corob4]

To be quite honest Baldrick i don't relly know. I got it from the net. It's an avi 1 1/2 hr movie and the size is approx 620 meg. Does that help?

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theres a program under tools <<< on the left called gspot that will load your avi file and determine what audio/video codecs are use for most file types

[corob4]

for pixelation you can use the two pass and slowest posibble search speed and let that be the only thing going on your comp at the time.
or try cce (muchoo $$$) but has ablity to do many more pass that tmpgs max of two.
still you will always get pixalation at some points in the video but it should cut it down