What if YOU die tomorrow!

[metalslug]

If you have an appointment with the grim-reaper
tomorrow, what would you do today, have sex? Have gay-sex?!?
Try heroine? Rob a bank? Get drunk? watch TV? Nothing?
What would you do?

I wouldn't do squat, because accordingly to this article:
http://www.liberfoundation.com/pressroom.htm life after death is
fact, not fiction, well. Sounds good for me.

What do you think, does it exist, life after death I mean!

[dwisniski]

Although this forum and web site do not seem to host discussion of this topic, and although I'm certain this reply will draw some feedback (negative and/or positive), this is what I believe...

Yes, there is an afterlife. The truth of our exsistence can be found in the Bible. Where you go after death into eternity is determined by how your life answers this one question: Who is Jesus Christ? If you believe He is God incarnate, come to ransom His life for your sin-debt on the cross, you will be with Him when you die. This is God's will for you, that none should perish, but that all be saved.

If you don't believe this, you will not be with Him when you die. My life was forever changed 13 years ago when He revealed Himself to me, and He will do the same for you if you simply ask Him. Thanks

[Treebeard]

Although this forum and web site do not seem to host discussion of this topic, and although I'm certain this reply will draw some feedback (negative and/or positive), this is what I believe...

Yes, there is an afterlife. The truth of our exsistence can be found in the Bible. Where you go after death into eternity is determined by how your life answers this one question: Who is Jesus Christ? If you believe He is God incarnate, come to ransom His life for your sin-debt on the cross, you will be with Him when you die. This is God's will for you, that none should perish, but that all be saved.

If you don't believe this, you will not be with Him when you die. My life was forever changed 13 years ago when He revealed Himself to me, and He will do the same for you if you simply ask Him. Thanks

Well said. Too many prophecies from the Bible have come true to ignore. There is afterlife for everybody, but we wont all be in the same place we make our choice of afterlife w/ our lifes here on earth.

This thread will probably get shut down b/c its going to turn into a religious bashing thread and politics and religion are usually avoided on the forums simply b/c of the arguing that will take place God bless

[tgpo]

ditto to dwisniski's answer. I believe it all comes down to your faith in God.

[tgpo]

This thread will probably get shut down b/c its going to turn into a religious bashing thread and politics and religion are usually avoided on the forums simply b/c of the arguing that will take place God bless

Which really sucks because I love having discussions about this...but someone always has to come and make trouble.

[tgpo]

I wouldn't do squat, because accordingly to this article:
http://www.liberfoundation.com/pressroom.htm life after death is
fact, not fiction, well. Sounds good for me.

According to this the afterlife is real!

[Treebeard]

I wouldn't do squat, because accordingly to this article:
http://www.liberfoundation.com/pressroom.htm life after death is
fact, not fiction, well. Sounds good for me.

According to this the afterlife is real!

Maybe reading is to time consuming, Listen to it instead

[Cyrl]

I'm not really religious at all, I do believe in some form of god but I think the organized religions of the world are not in it for our spiritual protection and enlightenment.. As far as your Link TGPO, I have read the book, I have a copy of it actually that was a gift from a good friend at high school graduation. It has a lot of good things to say, and a lot of interesting stories, I guess I lack the type of faith neede to accept it as something more than a decent book on morality....

I hold nothing against those who have faith in a religion, as long as they understand that others have a right to have their own beliefs and that they understand that as much as they believe, they still could be wrong.. But then again, isn't that kinda what faith is...

[Blank Frank]

If you don't believe this, you will not be with Him when you die. My life was forever changed 13 years ago when He revealed Himself to me, and He will do the same for you if you simply ask Him. Thanks

Which is all well and good. But my problem is that having been bought up in a Christian family (4 generations of evangelical Christians and I genuinely was one myself), I met too many of them to be charitable towards 'em at all.

See, I always understood that "Christian" meant "to be like Christ" but in practice, I rarely came across any that actually were. More like Saddam Hussein or Hitler yes. Racist, homophobic, bigoted, reactionary, sexist and anti-human yes. But like Christ? Not at all. Not a bunch of people I'd want to spend eternity with.

In fact it engendered a white-hot hatred of Christians, one that has only slightly abated in the almost twenty years since I turned my back on what I ferevently believed then.

It it works for you, then I'm glad. But don't count me on board.

[Conquest10]

If you don't believe this, you will not be with Him when you die. My life was forever changed 13 years ago when He revealed Himself to me, and He will do the same for you if you simply ask Him. Thanks

Which is all well and good. But my problem is that having been bought up in a Christian family (4 generations of evangelical Christians and I genuinely was one myself), I met too many of them to be charitable towards 'em at all.

See, I always understood that "Christian" meant "to be like Christ" but in practice, I rarely came across any that actually were. More like Saddam Hussein or Hitler yes. Racist, homophobic, bigoted, reactionary, sexist and anti-human yes. But like Christ? Not at all. Not a bunch of people I'd want to spend eternity with.

In fact it engendered a white-hot hatred of Christians, one that has only slightly abated in the almost twenty years since I turned my back on what I ferevently believed then.

It it works for you, then I'm glad. But don't count me on board.

i'd just like to say that there are hypocrites (sp?) in every religion. that's where most of the stereotypes come from, though. so that's what most people feel the religion is all about.

[alenhard]

Well, Frank, I guess that is what's so great about religion. God doesn't force anyone to do anything. We all get to choose for ourselves between right and wrong. A person who preaches Christianity and doesn't try to live what he preaches can not be counted as a Follower of Christ.

Unfortunately thare are hipocrites within Christianity, just like in any other religious group. Islamic terrorists? That kind of behavior is not taught in Muslim doctrines. The TV preachers begging for your money and promising miracles? That's not what Jesus taught.

Any religious group must be judged by its principles and doctrines, not by the people who belong in name, but not in heart.

"By their fruits ye shall know them." To see what power a religion may have, closely examine the lives of those people who actually live it.

[alenhard]

Gumby beat me to it, and said it much better, too!

[Blank Frank]

"By their fruits ye shall know them." To see what power a religion may have, closely examine the lives of those people who actually live it.

I appreciate what you're saying, but by quoting "by their fruits ye shall know them" it just backs up exactly what I was saying. I mentioned THEIR own 'fruits' in my original posting (racism. bigotry etc) and I KNEW and understood them so well. THAT'S why I turned my back on all that. That and a complete lack of anything resembling love or compassion for anyone outside their own beliefs/mindset.

Oddly enough, (before I get accused of "this bloke has personally been through all of this") I was never personally a recipient of any of the above. But saw it happen again and again to friends/associates of mine, perpetuated by people who I'd previously held as up as fine Christians. Not just once but over a period of years. And observing that sort of repeated behaviour produces a learning curve.

By their fruits indeed.

[alenhard]

Hey, no worries Frank. Trust me, I know where you are coming from.

"By their fruits ye shall know them."

When Jesus said that, he was warning his disciples against the exact behavior you are talking about- "false prophets in sheep's clothing." In other words, He was saying to watch out for people who would proclaim to believe in Him, but were really not his followers at all.

You're not the only one who has felt disappointed by the behavior of supposedly "God-fearing" people. So what does their behavior tell us? That they weren't really like Jesus and didn't really fear God (respect him).

Again, to see what a religion is really like, you have to look at the lives of people who really do what their religion requires of them.

In that same chapter, Jesus later said, "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Fatherwhich is in heaven."

Just professing to believe in Christ without really keeping his commandments is hipocritical. True Christians DO the will of God. "Faith without works is dead."

And again, the great thing about all of this is that we can all choose for ourselves!

[Quigonsean]

Wow a bunch of brothers and sisters hang out here, how cool. Just watch CNN, we'll be gettin a new body soon, thank God mines wore out. Yup Jesus is coming back, and he is coming back soon, and I can't wait!!! I saw in a post above somone said this will probably turn into a religeous bashing thread, well let it. Just remember where our eternity is, they can bash all they want their gonna burn forever, whar more would you have of them? Let'em bash, I know in whom my faith is in.
Sean

[Quigonsean]

See, I always understood that "Christian" meant "to be like Christ" but in practice, I rarely came across any that actually were. More like Saddam Hussein or Hitler yes. Racist, homophobic, bigoted, reactionary, sexist and anti-human yes. But like Christ? Not at all. Not a bunch of people I'd want to spend eternity with

Which is exactly why we need a Savior. As for spending eterity whith the above mentioned "Sexist etc..." Hypocrites etc... Come on in there is always room for one more. If only riteous people went to heaven it'd be an affully lonely place. It's his (Jesus') righteousness, not mine, thank God might I add.

Well thats my 2cents
Sean

[birdygal]

Heaven to be with Jesus

[sterno]

I've found that a lot of people (regardless of religious beliefs or lack thereof) like to believe in an afterlife because they find it comforting. They find the idea that they will cease to exist outside of the memories of the living to be very disturbing.

Personally, I take great comfort in believing that my existence had a definite beginning and will have a definite end. Brings a bit of a sense of closure to things, you know? Also, the idea of a one-shot deal makes life mean a little more to some people - some people ask how life can have any real meaning if there isn't anything "beyond", others ask how life can have any real meaning if there is.

I have to admit, I find the idea of reincarnation a little frightening. I hate the idea of having to go through all this again. It's not just a rat race, it's a rat race where we're all running in little metal wheels and keep getting hit in the head so we forget everything....

[leebo]

I find it interesting that NOT ONE of the replies answered the original question - what they would do if they were to die tomorrow.

What would I do? Nothing.
Unless I suddenly became psychic I would have no way of knowing what was going to happen tomorrow!!!

[tenders]

for me, i would spend what little time i had left trying to make sure that my kids were taken care of,and doaling out my memories(photos,airlooms,etc.). and of course we mustent forget my movie collection


BTW> great question!

[bbb]

Regarding your first question (you do realize that you posted 2 different questions--one in title and one in poll--sorta confusing):

You really couldn't do anything much different.

First, how would we know if we were going to die tomorrow? In practically all cases, we couldn't do much if we were convinced we were going to die. For example, if we were sick with a terminal illness with vital signs dropping dangerously, we would be lying in bed waiting. If we were on death row, we would be in the cell waiting. If we were bleeding profusely from an injury or an attack with no way to call for help, we would be bleeding profusely to the end. In other words, if we truly knew we were going to die tommorow, we would be physically compromised--too sick or shackled to do anything about it.

If someone said "I forsee that tomorrow is your last day on earth," most of us would ignore him and go about our lives.

In other words, there's no point to the question ... we are all fated to die and there's nothing to be done about it ... at least until science allows us to regenerate cells with undamaged dna or if we were to slowly interface with machines/computers in which case the question would be still be pointless.

[Conquest10]

I find it interesting that NOT ONE of the replies answered the original question - what they would do if they were to die tomorrow.

What would I do? Nothing.
Unless I suddenly became psychic I would have no way of knowing what was going to happen tomorrow!!!

actually we have been replying to his question.

[alucard2050]

omg, religion?Hmmmm...how interesting...is it not Gods will that this world is this way? for he created man to display to his angels his attribute of mercy...it is by his will that there is "sin"....without sin how can he show mercy?so many faiths in the world which one is right? if i were in China i would say Budda is God. If i were in Pakistan i would believe in Muhammed...and so on and so on...seems to me religion is what people make it...how many people say they believe in God, Jesus, and the Bible yet pick out parts of the bible that they like and don't like...the things they don't like of the bible they don't believe in...how hypocritical...they have made God in their image as to their lifestyle......to answer the question, sex is daily so that wouldn't be anything new..rob a bank would put me in jail and that would probably waste my day...i do have a couple of people i'd like to knock off...i'd problably do what i've always wanted to do...become someone like Judge Dredd or the Punisher for the day...Judge, Jury, Executioner....I AM THE LAW.......he he he......

For great spiritual enlightenment visit www.landoverbaptist.org :P :P

[tgpo]

For great spiritual enlightenment visit www.landoverbaptist.org :P :P

Not funny.

[rkr1958]

Is God the sum total of the Universe? Or is God more than the Universe? That is, does God exist both in and out of the Universe? Either way, God to us is infinte and, therefore, we only grasp a projection of the infinite onto the finite. I believe that our understanding of God, Religion and the Afterlife are shaped by are life experiences. I believe that no one has it right when it comes to understanding these ... and I also believe that it doesn't matter AS LONG as we Love Our Neighbor as Ourselves and Love Our Lord God with all our hearts and all our mind.

[LanceSteel]

Sure death is final, thats why its called death. When your physical body dies (aka your biological functions stop) you are considered dead. What would I do if I was going to die tomorrow? I would give away all my stuff (I don't need it anymore) and probably just wait it out.

Is there an afterlife? NO ONE can say for sure. I know and never heard of any one who has died and returned from the afterlife. Now I'm not talking about the people who die and are 'dead' for 4 minutes and return to life and say they saw past loved ones when they were out. I see past loved ones sometimes in my dreams at night but I don't claim to have gone to heaven to see them.

On a Side Note:
Religion is a touchy matter. People get upset when you say you don't believe in God. They get even more upset when you say you don't believe in their God. I was brought up Lutheran and after looking at the facts and thinking for myself, I found that the Bible probably isn't too reliable a source. Its a wonderful piece of fiction which has some really great moral teachings in it but I'm not going to believe in the God depicted in it because it says to do so. I'm a chemist by trade and an amatuer astronomer. I've seen some pretty remarkable things in both fields which makes you believe that there is something 'bigger' out there. I believe there is a God but its just not the God in the (insert religious book here.) I live my life doing good. I'm kind to people and help others in need. I live my life very 'christian-like' but do not believe in Christ. The bible says I'm going to hell because of that. If God is so egotistical that he would punish 'good' people simply because they refuse to worship Him then I wouldn't want worship Him in the first place.

PS
alucard2050, I thought the link was ok.

[Musty5ohh]

I know and never heard of any one who has died and returned from the afterlife.

I sure know of someone who has. If I was going to die tomorrow I would be going to see him.

To those who have seen people claiming to be "Christian" but not acting like it. No one perfect. God knows that and that is why He sent His son to die for our sins. We can't be exactly like Christ, but we sure can strive to be. Anyone who has truly accepted Jesus into their hearts and wants a change in their life will strive to be good. These so called Cristians aren't portraying what it is to truly be a Christian.

I am a bio major finishing up my senior year at college. To take all of the classes and see the depth of life and the intricate detail applied to every part of the universe can only have been done by God. There has to be a creator. I really could not picture just being dead, but I can picture the joy I will have when I reach Heaven.

God bless.

[Faustus]

IMHO After death we all be nice worm host like everything else. I'll leave it at that and not go any further as to NOT start a intense debate/flamewar, and I could, but I like not being banned here so I'll leave it at that.

As far as what I would do? Answer is obvious, delete the porn on the hard drive, who wants the family to find that?

[Blank Frank]

For great spiritual enlightenment visit www.landoverbaptist.org :P :P

Not funny.

And
On the contrary, I thought it was very funny. It's merely satirising an extreme version of the sort of people I grew up with. Except of course, this being Brits, we would lack the guns.

EDIT: And in answer to what I would do if I died tomorrow? DO? Not much really, other than get shuffled off to the local morgue.

[sterno]

Hmm, look at it this way. If you know you're going to die tomorrow, you know you aren't going to die today. That means that you can do mind-bogglingly stupid things all day long and some incredible coincidence will keep you alive. Just be careful and only do things that would be sure to kill you instantly, it would be such a waste to spend your last few hours as a drooling vegetable before expiring tomorrow.