Sony to Release first Blu-Laser Recorder

[sammie]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=569&ncid=738&e=1&u=/nm/20030303/tc_nm...ch_sony_dvd_dc


TOKYO (Reuters) - Japan's Sony Corp (news - web sites) said on Monday it would start sales next month of the world's first DVD recorder that uses blue laser light and can pack a two-hour high-definition TV program onto a single disc. It won't be cheap, with a retail list price of 450,000 yen ($3,800) while low-end DVD recorders using conventional red lasers go for as little as 50,000-70,000 yen.

Ouch on the price.

[davideck]

I found the following part of the announcement particularly interesting;

Sony's Blu-ray machine will be able to play red-laser discs using the DVD-R and DVD-RW formats, but not those using the DVD-RAM or DVD+RW formats.

What does this mean for long term DVD+ compatibility?

[sammie]

Good question davideck, but don't know. I suppose it depends if this is a technology limitation or just a first generation thing, or just a business choice by Sony. Probably way too soon to guess.

[MrSnake]

No, that's just for the Blu+ray format which comes later on.

Just kidding, but hey, who knows uh?



- or +R, whatever is gonna be the standard, that's why I'm happy with my DUAL writer.

Frankly, I don't think - and + will last long enough to become a standard.
Technology is evolving too rapidly.

MrSnake

[Xtasy2002]

Sorry but -R is already the standard for recordable DVD.

[2573]

I think DVD RAM is the format for recordables DVD maked by Panasonic and others.

DVD-RW format was made by sony and Philips.

[energy80s]

Sorry but -R is already the standard for recordable DVD.

No its not! If it were, then there would be no arguements about formats!!

[RAAGAAman]

Sony is playing the Political game with the Other Forum Members that support -R/RW. "Hey we need your help to make a truck load of money so we won't support a non-forum format". Also, there is the MPAA that thinks that +R/RW has less copy protection than -R/RW. Sony Pictures probably has some pull in this. There is no reason technically that a drive that can read -R/RW cannot read +R/RW. The Data is essentually layed out the same. This is just a F/W change to support. RAM is a different. That usually requires more specialized Optics. I think that you will see +R/RW supported eventually by Blu-ray when consumers start bitching about it not being supported.

RG

[HyperYagami]

Sorry but -R is already the standard for recordable DVD.

No its not! If it were, then there would be no arguements about formats!!

those are what we called *competing standards*. yes they're BOTH standards. What you're refering is called "the standard that wins".

[yg1968]

RAAGAAman said:

Also, there is the MPAA that thinks that +R/RW has less copy protection than -R/RW.

Neither +R/+RW or -R/-RW have copy protection. I am not sure that I understand what you mean by this?

[thxkid]

your all wrong again, ever read a Panasonic DVD-R recorders manual, it is in Black and White, "Does not support or play +R format". Yeah thats why I can play my +R's in both of my DMR-E10 and E20 and they play also in any other -R format that quotes it will not play a +R, they will just come out with another newer version of this bitsetter I use so you can, by the way if you -R people ever read anything on +R format you will find its made to read just like a dual layered stamp DVD, so blue ray would have to stop red laser dual layered DVD's before killing off the +R format and if you believe the crap sony puts out then you must also believe that blue ray is not hackbale also.
Plus in 2-3 years before a blue ray recorder can come afforable to a few select epopel who knows where that format and other new format will be, even at the high $600-$1000 3 year later DVD recorder prices are still not affordable to the masses, now with Philips announcing that it will offer its entire +R DVD recordering guts for $100 to any company wanting to build a standalone around it, hey Apex $250 DVD+R recorders will out sell $3800 blue ray recorders at that point. If people buy $50-100 DVD players and VHS recorders then you bet their gonna look at a $250 recorder over a $3000 one.

[yg1968]

I have to other agree with some of the other posts. Even if Sony says that it is not tested for DVD+R doesn't mean that it will not work. I would be surprised to find that their recorder doesn't work with DVD+R but somehow magically works with DVD-R.

The article may have assumed this fact because Sony did not mention DVD+R and +RW compability in its press release (which apparently is not surprising given that +R is not much of a factor in Japan):

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=146660

http://www.dvdplusrw.org/cgi/forum/ikonboard.cgi?s=414e3f4e0e3131f6c1b1fdc717082dcc;ac...=ST;f=3;t=5725

http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/urltrurl?lp=ja_en&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sony.j...3%2F03-0303%2F