my first rip doesn't look so good...

[vcd4me]

Ok I did my first rip and followed sefty classical newbie guide

First i used Smartripper 2.41 then I used DVDx 2.0 ripped to vcd format

All went well
Then I watched it and like I said before, it doesn't look that great.

Did I do something wrong?
or
Can I get better quality by frameserving then encoding?

any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance
VCD4ME

[Absolom]

When you said it didn't look good what do you mean?? was it really blockie (pixilated) or did you get lines through it?

If it was really blockie i have found that encoding it on its slowest settings really helps. it takes a long time but is worth it.

I use dvd2svcd, it has all the programs in one and you just hit go to start it. really good for newbies

[musher70]

what did ya want fora vcd???dvd quality?

[vcd4me]

Absolum,

I do mean pixilated, I'll try the slower setting but how much slower is it. I have a 1.8 amd with 512k (laptop)

musher70,

I've seen better downloaded movies. I also have a terapin, which everyone around here bashes to death and well to be honest the picture was worse than the terapins' product.

Anymore suggestions comments
Thanks in advance
VCD4ME

[Heavensent]

vcd has a low bitrate, and in action movie the result will not look
very good. add to that the fact that the dvdx encoder is just not that good in terms of qulity.

my advice is - go for svcd, even with dvdx it will look much better
because of the higher resolution and bitrate.
if you HAVE to make a VCD, i whould use tmpeg because it has
much more qulity in the mpeg - 1 encoding.
its not so hard to use it, but you have to work a little bit more to
get the subtitles in.

and its faster too!!!

if you need more help - post a reply.

[Super Warrior]

Ok I did my first rip and followed sefty classical newbie guide

First i used Smartripper 2.41 then I used DVDx 2.0 ripped to vcd format

All went well
Then I watched it and like I said before, it doesn't look that great.

Did I do something wrong?
or
Can I get better quality by frameserving then encoding?

any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance
VCD4ME

Try useing a better encoder.Personally i don't like DVDx at all,its just weird.Try useing TMPGenc to encode your DVD files to VCD/SVCD.Much better in my opinion.

Even when making normal VCD,i hardly get any blockiness as long as the encodeing quality in TMPGenc is set to high.

[vcd4me]

Heavensent ,
please let me explain this better to you. This rip I made is probably the worst vcd movie file I have ever seen. I have up until now only downloaded vcd (movies that aren't worth buying- I have around 50 vcds)). I do own a lot of dvd's (around 50) and I understand the diffrences from vcd and svcd and dvd . Now I want to learn to rip my own. Case in point my 5 yr old son has now decided to learn all about how to play dvds...LOL. I think he has mastered the vcr and just wants to get his hands on some better quality movies. The problem is that i don't want him to scratch them up and ruin them. The first movie I ripped was Stuart Little 2 , the reason is because it's under 80 minutes and will fit on a single cd-r if I use vcd quality. For the movies i watch you bet I'll make them into svcds.

Heavensent and Star Warrior,
So you think I should follow the guide and use these steps:

1. Copy - Smartripper
2. Frameserve - DVD2AVI
3.Encode - TMPGenc
4. Burn - Nero

Thanks in advance
VCD4ME

[MicoMan]

Heavensent ,
please let me explain this better to you. This rip I made is probably the worst vcd movie file I have ever seen. I have up until now only downloaded vcd (movies that aren't worth buying- I have around 50 vcds)). I do own a lot of dvd's (around 50) and I understand the diffrences from vcd and svcd and dvd . Now I want to learn to rip my own. Case in point my 5 yr old son has now decided to learn all about how to play dvds...LOL. I think he has mastered the vcr and just wants to get his hands on some better quality movies. The problem is that i don't want him to scratch them up and ruin them. The first movie I ripped was Stuart Little 2 , the reason is because it's under 80 minutes and will fit on a single cd-r if I use vcd quality. For the movies i watch you bet I'll make them into svcds.

Heavensent and Star Warrior,
So you think I should follow the guide and use these steps:

1. Copy - Smartripper
2. Frameserve - DVD2AVI
3.Encode - TMPGenc
4. Burn - Nero - VCD Easy gives you Chapters!
Thanks in advance
VCD4ME

I alwayed used DVDx when I had Win 98 but since I updated to XP the quality of my DVDx rips has not been good?
I have now gone on to use the above method and even though it is more involved it is worth it! I always liked TMPGEnc and it does give the best VCD's I have made.
Only thing is TMPGEnc will only decode Mpeg 2 for 30 days and then you need to Pay!

[vcd4me]

Thanks MicoMan,
I forgot to mention I am using windows xp. That is good to hear that I should be able to get it too look better

Anymore suggestions keep them coming

Thanks in advance
VCD4ME

[Cecilio_87]

Thanks MicoMan,
I forgot to mention I am using windows xp. That is good to hear that I should be able to get it too look better

Anymore suggestions keep them coming

Thanks in advance
VCD4ME

ok this is what you will need
1) DVD2SVCD
2) Bitrate Calculater(i use Furball6969's DVD Bitrate calculater version 0.675 RC1)

ok listen no one is giving you good advice. ok look forget about vcd and forget about svcd have you ever heard about CVD. its simple and man do the rips look clear even at a bitrate like 1,800 they look like the dvd with no blocks. i know your probably saying but you dont wanna waste more than 2cds well thats what the calculater is for. you just put the lenght of the movie the audio bitrate and you put 2 80min cd-r and press calculate and it will give you a max video bitrate you could use too get the highest quality possible in 2 full cdrs. for example if a movie last 90 minutes you can encode the movie at a video bitrate of 2,200 and audio 128. i mean think about it if you are gonna make a vcd your gonna need 2 cds and there gonna look crappy and your 2nd cd has alot of space left. so what you do is a CVD with good bitrate and only 2cds.

ok now let me show you how to do a CVD in case you dont know.

First go to where it says frame server and on the bottom put CVD 352*480/576.

Then go to the MISC tab and where it says DVD2SVCD Level put advanced.

Next go to audio and i use 128 for bitrate it sounds pretty good. you can have 2 audio sources on a cvd. if you want 2 audio sources check the box where it says audio priority 2 and insert the language you want the second language to be.

Next go to cd image and check the box VCDXBuild i mean if you want your movie to have the original dvd chapters check this box.

Now check the length of your movie. then use the bitrate calculator and try to see what your video bitrate will be.

ok hold on 1 last thing go the tab where it says Bitrate and then if you have 74 minute cdrs well put cd size 740 on all the boxes. and if your cdrs are 80 minute put 800 MB on all boxes.

now what ever it said on the bitrate to put as a bitrate put it on all the boxes on the bottom.

Next go the Tab where it says Encoder if you have tmpegenc check that one. if you have CCE then check that.

ok now the final step is on the TAB where it says conversion click on the folder and open the IFO with the movie. now what you do is where it says movie lenght click on it and then all the movie chapters will come out with check marks. now click none and then they will uncheck. now manually check the first second third.............. untill you get to half of the movie. EX. if the movie is 90 minutres only check the first chapters till you get to 45 minutes or a little bit more or a little bit less. but if its more use the bitrate calc again just so that you wont mess up. oh and where it says Aspect Ratio always put 4:3.

oh and sorry one more thing. go back to the Audio tab and on the very bottom theres a box that says audio downsample 48>44.1 khz uncheck both boxes.

ok now go back to the conversion box and click on go.

ok once its done in the program files go to DVD2SVCD and then the MOVIE folder and you will see a bin/cue file. well ok this is the one you wanna burn.

ok if you have nero just open nero up and go to file and then where it says burn image click on it and then go to the dvd2svcd folder and then the movie folder and then select the bin/cue file that is there. and now you will have a good looking movie with original DVD Chapters and 2 Different Audio Sources and even removable subtitles if you want.

[Super Warrior]

Heavensent and Star Warrior,
So you think I should follow the guide and use these steps:

1. Copy - Smartripper
2. Frameserve - DVD2AVI
3.Encode - TMPGenc
4. Burn - Nero

Thanks in advance
VCD4ME

No,at least not the DVD2AVI garbage.

Try just this:

#1-Rip the Vobs with Smartripper or Vstrip.
#2-Encode vob files to the proper format you like with TMPGenc.
#3-Burn with nero.

No need to use DVD2AVI,Besweet,vcdimager or any of those other unnecessary programs.TMPGenc is pretty good enough to handle encodeing both video&audio nicely all on its own.

Although i'm only saying how to simply make quality Mpegs for VCD/SVCD.Not high-tech stuff,like fitting a whole movie onto 1 CD-R with excellent quality and retaining the DVD chapters.Can't help ya there.

[Absolom]

Well if you weren't too confused before i bet you are now

i would just recomend using DVD2SVCD. one programme that does it all. it has links to help pages and that sort of stuff. I have done 200 movies and it is the best i have used.

Stick with it mate.

[MicoMan]

#1-Rip the Vobs with Smartripper or Vstrip.
#2-Encode vob files to the proper format you like with TMPGenc.
#3-Burn with nero.


The above method wont work! You need DVD2AVI.

You only use DVD2AVI as a frameserver for TMPGEnc as it can only decode each VOB file separately. DVD2AVI just makes a WAV file of the audio and another D2V file which tells TMPGEnc that all the vob files are in order, so it converts the whole film.

[vcd4me]

Absolom,
Your right I am confused even more.

STAR WARRIOR Wrote

No need to use DVD2AVI,Besweet,vcdimager or any of those other unnecessary programs.TMPGenc is pretty good enough to handle encodeing both video&audio nicely all on its own

and

MicoMan wrote

The above method wont work! You need DVD2AVI.

You only use DVD2AVI as a frameserver for TMPGEnc as it can only decode each VOB file separately. DVD2AVI just makes a WAV file of the audio and another D2V file which tells TMPGEnc that all the vob files are in order, so it converts the whole film

Now star warrior the guide says exactly what MicoMan posted

The problem is that I am still not sure what all the terms mean like frameserving, vobs.I also don't quite understand what all the things actually do. All I know is I asked someone about terms before on another subject and they said just follow the guide it's a step by step instruction.

However if someone wants to explain what vobs and frameserving means and how it really works... well... I am all ears

Thanks in advance
Signed
Confused VCD4ME

[Cecilio_87]

ok this is what you will need
1) DVD2SVCD
2) Bitrate Calculater(i use Furball6969's DVD Bitrate calculater version 0.675 RC1)

ok listen no one is giving you good advice. ok look forget about vcd and forget about svcd have you ever heard about CVD. its simple and man do the rips look clear even at a bitrate like 1,800 they look like the dvd with no blocks. i know your probably saying but you dont wanna waste more than 2cds well thats what the calculater is for. you just put the lenght of the movie the audio bitrate and you put 2 80min cd-r and press calculate and it will give you a max video bitrate you could use too get the highest quality possible in 2 full cdrs. for example if a movie last 90 minutes you can encode the movie at a video bitrate of 2,200 and audio 128. i mean think about it if you are gonna make a vcd your gonna need 2 cds and there gonna look crappy and your 2nd cd has alot of space left. so what you do is a CVD with good bitrate and only 2cds.

ok now let me show you how to do a CVD in case you dont know.

First go to where it says frame server and on the bottom put CVD 352*480/576.

Then go to the MISC tab and where it says DVD2SVCD Level put advanced.

Next go to audio and i use 128 for bitrate it sounds pretty good. you can have 2 audio sources on a cvd. if you want 2 audio sources check the box where it says audio priority 2 and insert the language you want the second language to be.

Next go to cd image and check the box VCDXBuild i mean if you want your movie to have the original dvd chapters check this box.

Now check the length of your movie. then use the bitrate calculator and try to see what your video bitrate will be.

ok hold on 1 last thing go the tab where it says Bitrate and then if you have 74 minute cdrs well put cd size 740 on all the boxes. and if your cdrs are 80 minute put 800 MB on all boxes.

now what ever it said on the bitrate to put as a bitrate put it on all the boxes on the bottom.

Next go the Tab where it says Encoder if you have tmpegenc check that one. if you have CCE then check that.

ok now the final step is on the TAB where it says conversion click on the folder and open the IFO with the movie. now what you do is where it says movie lenght click on it and then all the movie chapters will come out with check marks. now click none and then they will uncheck. now manually check the first second third.............. untill you get to half of the movie. EX. if the movie is 90 minutres only check the first chapters till you get to 45 minutes or a little bit more or a little bit less. but if its more use the bitrate calc again just so that you wont mess up. oh and where it says Aspect Ratio always put 4:3.

oh and sorry one more thing. go back to the Audio tab and on the very bottom theres a box that says audio downsample 48>44.1 khz uncheck both boxes.

ok now go back to the conversion box and click on go.

ok once its done in the program files go to DVD2SVCD and then the MOVIE folder and you will see a bin/cue file. well ok this is the one you wanna burn.

ok if you have nero just open nero up and go to file and then where it says burn image click on it and then go to the dvd2svcd folder and then the movie folder and then select the bin/cue file that is there. and now you will have a good looking movie with original DVD Chapters and 2 Different Audio Sources and even removable subtitles if you want.

[MicoMan]

Its great making all these "Non" standard VCD's but when your starting out its better to stick to the standard.

You also will find that if you want to make copies for mates there DVD player may not play it properly or at all!

VOB's, Frameserve, it dont matter. You dont need to know how a car works to drive it! so dont worry how it works just that it does.

Just follow the guides and you should be ok. Get as few rips under your belt then have a look around this site for the info, its all here.