It's all over in CANADA

[susie]

The Internet or Internet related industry in Canada is heading down the tube. First, Internet Service Providers impose a bandwidth cap and at the same time also raise the monthly fee. Second, the Canadian government is adding Tax Levy on all CDRs, CDRW, MiniDisc, DVDr, DVDRW, Flash card, memory stick, mp3 players, Hard Drive etc etc for the second time in a row. (Tax Levy will be added on Jan 1st, 2003)

When all the ISPs imposed bandwidth cap they lost so many customers but the lesson was not learned from that and now it is the manufacturing industry time to pay the price when most customers will stop buying stuff that has Tax Levy added.

Go Canada Go.

"When you become too greedy, you will end up with nothing"

[yg1968]

Apparently most countries impose a special tax on CD-R, etc blanks.

I asked Bell about the bandwith limitation. They told me that limitations were being imposed throughout North America. The funny thing is that they still advertise it as unlimited internet access.

[Baldrick]

I think it is same in many countries. Many internet providers here in Sweden have added bandwidth limits and also raised the feeee. We also have extra taxes on recordable media.

[tenders]

hmm....never heard about the tax? guess i'll have to stock up

as for bell....gone at the end of the month,and i was already hooked up with another provider. apparently i can now have up to 3 dsl connections on one line. i think you will eventually see a cap all over tha world.

[Greg12]

i would pay a tax on CD-R's to make file sharing legal


a REASONABLE tax.

[tenders]

i would pay a tax on CD-R's to make file sharing legal


a REASONABLE tax.

i would go for that also.

[susie]

Yes it is true that Bell Sympatico Highspeed has bandwidth cap and they
do charge their customers who cross over the limit but Rogers Cable Internet has bandwidth cap only on paper and they don't penalize their customer no matter how much they download. And Bell lied about Bandwidth cap throughout North America. I know the U.S wants to have similar bandwidth cap but has not implimenated it yet. I doubt the U.S will have such a bandwidth cap...you know the "freedom of speech" stuff down there.

Apparently most countries impose a special tax on CD-R, etc blanks.

I asked Bell about the bandwith limitation. They told me that limitations were being imposed throughout North America. The funny thing is that they still advertise it as unlimited internet access.

[susie]

I think that sucks. They are doing more harm to themselves than to the average customers.

I think it is same in many countries. Many internet providers here in Sweden have added bandwidth limits and also raised the feeee. We also have extra taxes on recordable media.

[susie]

Don't stock up yet because the Canadian Government has to review the implimentation next month (Jan , 2003) before they actually impose it.

hmm....never heard about the tax? guess i'll have to stock up

as for bell....gone at the end of the month,and i was already hooked up with another provider. apparently i can now have up to 3 dsl connections on one line. i think you will eventually see a cap all over tha world.

[susie]

Even if you are willing to pay the Tax Levy on recordable media, it still won't make file sharing legal.

i would pay a tax on CD-R's to make file sharing legal


a REASONABLE tax.

[susie]

You shouldn't.

Why ? The more you give the more they will ask for.
They got the Tax Levy added to recordable media in 1999(I think) and now they want to add more tax levy on top of what they have already added two years ago. And if they do get what they want this time I am sure in 2004 they will want another tax levy and another tax levy in the year after that and on and on.....

i would pay a tax on CD-R's to make file sharing legal


a REASONABLE tax.

i would go for that also.

[vcd4me]

susie

If that is your real name and real picture .
I will get you any movie or cdrs that tou need and drive them to your house.

On a serious note that stinks about the bandwith cap and cdr tax.
Hope it fails to go into effect

Good Luck Canada
signed
VCD4ME

[Greg12]

i said a reasonable tax, not government reasonable, ppl reasonable.

[ChrisX]

I am from Australia; here we pay the normal 10% tax on just about everything we buy. There is no levy imposed on computer hardware, software or any recording media, just the normal 10% tax.

Regarding the ISP extra charges, most providers do impose a download limit on a monthly fee, then per megabyte fee over the limit. This is an example of the extra charges, 20 cents per megabyte over the 400 megabyte monthly allowance.

Fortunately for me, I only pay the normal monthly rate and no more.

Lately the Australian Government have imposed levies on a number of things, airline tickets, milk products, sugar, insurance and many others. The extra levies are getting more and more lately. We are getting to the stage of enough is enough of the extra charges and taxes. Businesses and the consumers are suffering. When will this stop.

"When you become too greedy, you will end up with nothing", this is what they get. This applies to any corporation, any business and Government with paying extra for everything. The Australian Government will get nothing from me.

[susie]

Although I am no longer a HighSpeed Internet user but one of my classmate is still using DSL and if I wanted anything (movies, ISOs) I usually borrow them from him.

If you do watch porno movies, you will know that the girl in the picture is Jenna Jameson.

BTW, should I remove the picture ? Because people will think that it is me.

susie

If that is your real name and real picture .
I will get you any movie or cdrs that tou need and drive them to your house.

On a serious note that stinks about the bandwith cap and cdr tax.
Hope it fails to go into effect

Good Luck Canada
signed
VCD4ME

[susie]

So the GST (General Sale Tax) has finally being implimented in Australia?

You are lucky in Australia than in Canada where you have to pay 15% GST on everything you buy.

And every since 9/11, Canadians are being charged addition $25 per trip on airline tickets. The reason for such a charge is security for passengers but you never see any extra guards on patrol.

I am from Australia; here we pay the normal 10% tax on just about everything we buy. There is no levy imposed on computer hardware, software or any recording media, just the normal 10% tax.

Regarding the ISP extra charges, most providers do impose a download limit on a monthly fee, then per megabyte fee over the limit. This is an example of the extra charges, 20 cents per megabyte over the 400 megabyte monthly allowance.

Fortunately for me, I only pay the normal monthly rate and no more.

Lately the Australian Government have imposed levies on a number of things, airline tickets, milk products, sugar, insurance and many others. The extra levies are getting more and more lately. We are getting to the stage of enough is enough of the extra charges and taxes. Businesses and the consumers are suffering. When will this stop.

"When you become too greedy, you will end up with nothing", this is what they get. This applies to any corporation, any business and Government with paying extra for everything. The Australian Government will get nothing from me.

[susie]

Oops

i said a reasonable tax, not government reasonable, ppl reasonable.

[tenders]

in this country,there are still isp's that have NO CAP.
check this out: http://www.canadianisp.com/cgi-bin/ispsearch.cgi

[susie]

http://www.canadacomputes.com/story.asp?tag=81&sb=121&id=9656

Canadian campaign targets music copying levy

[vcd4me]

susie wrote

If you do watch porno movies, you will know that the girl in the picture is Jenna Jameson.

so susie now I am more curious
Your not telling me your a porn watcher are you ?

just kidding with ya
VCD4ME

[susie]

Everyone loves "porn" and so "does" Susie. LOL
nah...Jenna Jameson was on Entertainment Tonight and thats how I know who she is.

susie wrote

If you do watch porno movies, you will know that the girl in the picture is Jenna Jameson.

so susie now I am more curious
Your not telling me your a porn watcher are you ?

just kidding with ya
VCD4ME

[yg1968]

Most coutries levy such a tax (even the U.S.):

http://neil.eton.ca/copylevy.shtml#other_countries

[susie]

If you compare the U.S to Canada, Americans are living in PARADISE !

I paid $350 Canadian plus tax for my Apex AD-700 while it was selling in the U.S for $90 ( equal = $135 Canadian).

Now lets talk about the Tax Levy on CDRs. Starting next month (Jan 2003) Canadian will have to pay 21 cents more on each CDRs.

Even if there were no tax levy in Canada, the prices are still more than 2 times that of the U.S.

Everything in Canada is super EXPENSIVE.

Most coutries levy such a tax (even the U.S.):

http://neil.eton.ca/copylevy.shtml#other_countries

[ChrisX]

Everything in Canada is super EXPENSIVE.

Yes, I agree susie. I experienced how expensive Canada was while traveling North America during the summer of 1994. I couldn't buy anything much in Canada and have to wait until I returned to the US.

I even crossed the border from Vancouver to Seattle just to post a vacation card to my friends and relatives. Even their postage was taxed. I was in Seattle to explore the city and enjoyed the bus trip.

I am from Australia, we are also a bit too expensive and not too bad. This is due to our low Dollar compared with the US Dollar that makes things dearer. Computers especially as they are imported into Australia and in the US a lot cheaper to buy.

The Australian Government isn't helping by adding levies into some goods and services. The Government thinks the levy isn't a tax, it is an extra tax.

susie, why don't you cross the border to the US to buy a few things there. A lot cheaper in the US.

Merry Christmas.

[susie]

CJGS, the Canadian Business Community lobbied the government to tax people who cross the border to shop. So if you buy something in the states for a cheaper price then you will have to pay the difference when you come back to Canada at the customs. So in other words, you don't save anything if you buy from the U.S. I remember back then a lot of people used to drive their vehicle with only a little gas left in their tank across the border and then come back with full tank of gas but the business community complained and got the government to give people who want to buy gas from the U.S a hard time. So retailers in Canada can hold a gun to your head and tell you that they want $100 for a pack of potato chips and if you don't like it then you will just have to starve.





[/quote]

susie, why don't you cross the border to the US to buy a few things there. A lot cheaper in the US.

Merry Christmas.[/quote]

[MOVIEGEEK]

"A revolution now and again is healthy"*
Thomas Jefferson
3rd US President

*-tell your MP your position

Happy Holidays

[ChrisX]

CJGS, the Canadian Business Community lobbied the government to tax people who cross the border to shop. So if you buy something in the states for a cheaper price then you will have to pay the difference when you come back to Canada at the customs. So in other words, you don't save anything if you buy from the U.S. I remember back then a lot of people used to drive their vehicle with only a little gas left in their tank across the border and then come back with full tank of gas but the business community complained and got the government to give people who want to buy gas from the U.S a hard time. So retailers in Canada can hold a gun to your head and tell you that they want $100 for a pack of potato chips and if you don't like it then you will just have to starve.

Susie, this is blackmail. This isn't freedom and this isn't democracy. Where is free trade and where is competition?

The Australian Government supports free trade and to remove tariffs and barriers between countries. I feel the Canadian businesses are just too greedy.

You might well leave Canada and settle in the US.

[susie]

CJGS,
I wish I could leave Canada and head down south to the U.S

Unfortunately it is easy for Americans to come here but not easy for Canadians to move down south. Hey maybe it would be easy to move to Australia

[resnullius]

BTW susie the GST is actually Goods and Services Tax. it is not 15% it's 7% PST makes up the rest of the taxes(provincial sales taxes). If you bought a dvd player at such a mark up you don't shop enought. i generally buy what ever i want at about the same amount i'd buy it in the states... except for cigarettes (and that's just because i'm too lazy to find an native ) i'm not talkingillegally buying i'm talking 100cd-r's at the local computer shop for 30$ and ao5's at 400$. don't be afraid to use
http://computers-canada.com/ and then walking to your local futureshop and saying: hey i saw this less expensive there. As for bandwidth caps there are alot of providers that don't have caps AEI is one in montreal. If you bitch enough you can even get sympatico's caps removed .
Merry Christmas and good shopping.
ps i don't see why you think it,s hard to move down south i've done it before and regreted it so i came back.

[BJ_M]

AEI is in ontario also - no caps , cheap rates , reliable , hope you speak french if you need service same day ...
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