can you write to differant regions

[addertay]

heres the thing and i do appologize for such a question that may seem silly to a lot of people

i know on internal players you can choose a region and then you are set with it

im looking at getting a dvd writter i had tried vcd but i want to have better quality so im taking th plunge

the thing is i do a lot of camcorder footage and i want to transfer to pal so that would be region 2 for sending to my parents in england

however im in the usa so naturally i would like to keep my player region 1
is there a way you can record using a writter to region 2 just to send the stuff for england i dont want to have to buy two writters

any help would be greatly appreciated

thanks

Adam

[flaninacupboard]

when you burn your own dvd-s they are whats known as region 0. i.e. they have no region coding whatsoever. these will work fine on both a R1 NTSC player or a R2 PAL/NTSC player.

[3dcandy]

yeah, current dvd writers don't support region codes, CSS protection or Macrovision copy protection, so it doesn't really matter!

[BJ_M]

yeah, current dvd writers don't support region codes, CSS protection or Macrovision copy protection, so it doesn't really matter!

yes they support region coding on writing -- at least the pioneer 104 does if you have the right authoring software . as for macrovision i can add that if i write to DLT and send it out with our key .. or write it as a master on a pioneer dvr-201 (which alsos upports CSS) ..

[3dcandy]

Yeah, but both those options aren't with the dvd writer are they? I'm sure that even with the correct software, the 104 doesn't write region coding

[BJ_M]

yes the 104 does region coding ... its a bit set in the multiplex ..

you can do it with maestro or scenarist (maybe reeldvd also - not sure)

[3dcandy]

Kewl.....

Learn something new every day!

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There is no need...


But, buy a expensive S201 and you can author as hard as you want and do this stuff you meant.
Take a "standard" dvd-recorder and it s not able to perform that, cause they cannot write on authoring media thats needed to do that.

[Nolonemo]

You can also do macrovision with Maestro and A104, I tried it out. I could copy the DVD onto a VHS tape OK, but when I tried to record the DVD into a mini DV cam, the cam recognized the macrovision and gave me the "I won't let you do this" message. . . . (If anyone cares about this ...)

[Falcon500]

When I copy a DVD using a general DVD writer you still retain the macrovision of the original DVD if you choose not to disable it in the ripping stage. Wouldn't it be possible to also add CSS to a disc as well?

[BJ_M]

When I copy a DVD using a general DVD writer you still retain the macrovision of the original DVD if you choose not to disable it in the ripping stage. Wouldn't it be possible to also add CSS to a disc as well?

to add CSS you have to have to author to DLT or a pioneer 201 .. ussually only DLT tape ...

to add macrovision you need a key which is sent to the stamping facility along with your DLT , which is set with the correct block structure for macrovision when you set up your authoring - but not added (macrovision itself) during the authoring phase. most facilities would already have your master key as you would have dealt with them or it would be sent to them on your behalf. hard to explain - other than its not a do it yourself at home project.

[flaninacupboard]

im curious to know why css or macrovision is useful to any of you, given that one click in a DVD ripper is enough to kill them......?

[BJ_M]

because some clients pay us to have it on there ..

[Falcon500]

Will the pioneer 201 allow you to put css and macrovision on the authoring disc? Or does the flag get enabled and a production facility then adds the two to your pressed disc?

[BJ_M]

Will the pioneer 201 allow you to put css and macrovision on the authoring disc? Or does the flag get enabled and a production facility then adds the two to your pressed disc?

macrovision yes - you could do it on the 201 acually (maybe even the 104 - never tried) , i stand corrected. you have to have an agreement which comes from the pressing plant or macrovision though first for legal reasons and we have a ID added to the disk - i guess it would work without the ID being added . I was thinking there was something the pressing plant does also different (as the DLT is also encoded at this point). maybe its all smoke and mirrors.

CSS is added at the plant -- you just format for CSS (block size i think and something else) , its a one box check off in the authoring program ..

sector size is different if you add either or both to the disk .. extra 8 bits..

P.S -- i just tried it , it appears our ID/key has nothing to do with it as macrovision can be enabled without it being entered . replication would be not legal though at this point.

[Falcon500]

Thanks for the info BJ_M...
I am just curious as I would like to add macrovision to discs that I distribute (mainly so the people don't copy it to vhs and ruin the quality). I don't have a pioneer 201, just a 104. So I am interested to find out what software would add it (either legally or illegally)?

[BJ_M]

maestro and scenarist

[Falcon500]

Thanks....I just noticed those two that you listed higher up in the thread....

I will have to do some experiments to see how it works...

Cheers