TDK & Memorex DVD-R skip towards the end of the movie.

[Foles001]

I bought a 10 pack of TDK and 10 Pack of Memorex DVD-R's from CompUSA. I haven't had this problem with all my movies except two that I re-encoded to fit on a DVD-R. I used the Simple DVD2DVDR (dvd2svcd) method then I used DVD Maestro to master it and then Instant VOB CD+DVD to burn. I really don't think the problem is the method I use or the DVD-R's. Maybe it's the burning program (hmm...)?

When ever I play these two DVD-R's in my Pioneer DV-444 settop player they tend to skip towards the end of the movie (to the point where the DVD player will freeze). Sometimes if I turn the DVD player on after it being off all night the part where it skipped the night before will play fine. This only lasts about 10-15 min and then the skipping starts again. When I put the DVD into my DVD-ROM drive and playback w/ PowerDVD it plays fine with no skipping at all. These are not cheap DVD-R's and it's not a cheap DVD player. Keep in mind that this has only happened to 2 out of 7 of my re-encoded DVD-R's. If anyone has any idea of why my DVD player is doing this please help. I you have any questions regarding this please reply.

ps. tried the dvd-r's in another pioneer dv-444 and the same problem came about 10 min after great playback...
one of the movies was SWEP2 DVD-R (I'm sure one or two of you has their paws on this DVD-R 8) ... It starts to skip around chapter 45)

[IremainAMisterE]

Yup, this is the exact same problem i had on day 1 when i got my Pioneer DVR-104.
I had purchased a 3 pk. of Memorex DVD-R and tried burning a single layer DVD-5 movie.(Wierd Science-4.02gb) I successfully did a full back up and everything looked great! Then when there was about 20 minutes left of the movie, that's when the skipping started and then finally froze.

I have come to the conclusion that Memorex sucks ass!
I asked the guy at my local COMP USA about it and he tells me that there was probably a problem writing to the outer layer of the CD. So i said to him, so what you're basically saying is Memorex is cheap garbage and doesn't hold what it says it does on the box. The man smiled and was like pretty much.

Since then, i have put my full trust in 2x Apple DVD-R's and have not had one single problem. I even did a full back up of My Cousin Vinny, and that movie was a 4.32gb movie.

I would suggest taking a look at these disks. They are very reliable and can be written at 2x. They sell them in 5 pks. for $25 at COMP USA. I've even heard that the Apple disks are really Pioneer disks relabled.
Good Luck!

[mazinz]

it is funny you mentioned this. I am too going through the same situation i have used memorex and tdks for god knows how long without any problems till now. i am working from a 10 pack and just for thsi one film it does it.

the first time i thought the disc was faulty so i did another same problem, next i tried it with a memorex dvd-rw disc and it worked fine. This led me to think the dvd-rs were faulty. i burned another film today from the same 10 pack and that is fine. Well just a few minutes ago i copied the one messed up film from the dvd-rw and tried to reburn it again, no dice same problem. So i am also wondering what exactly it is, im sure i have not been unlucky enough to pick all 3 bad discs from the pack using them for just this one film. Well either way the dvd-rw is now my new master for the film

I own the pioneer dvr-104 burner

[freebee22]

mazinz, have you tried watching the movie you burn that was bad on your player and play it on your computer....

I too have the same problem and at first I thought it was the way I burn it but looks like the trouble is the media compatibility with the player, I use the memorex dvdr-rw to try the movie first when it comes out good then I re-burn it on the dvd-r's and I have trouble of skip, freezing and pixelation... but it plays fine on my computer...

Iam going to try Apple dvd-r's as I have read alot of good things about this disk.. like IremainAMisterE said, and the problem went away..

just my 2 cents

[mazinz]

i will give it a try, i still have the 3 messed up discs, as im sure i can copy the items off them and reburn onto another media (it has worked before with faulty low budjet store bought dvds, you know, mainly bootleg stuff).

but if this helps i tried it in my pioneer 525, and the 606d, as well as an apex player all with the same result. i have close to 60-70 memorex dvd-rs that i have never had a proboem with. Again this makes the first time, and its just really ironic that it worked fine on the rw disc and that every other film i made from the same 10 pack has worked fine, but i will give it a try and post it here---

[Foles001]

Well, thanks so much for this input. I backed Resivor Dogs to a Memorex DVD-R last night and watched it. No skipping and it played great. I am starting to think that it is the MOVIE and the DVD-R combined. I tried to burn another copy of SWEP2 on a Memorex (orignally on a TDK) and the same problem came up. Like I said the movie is absoulty fine when I watch it on my computer. I guess that Memorex and TDK DVD-R's have the same problems. These only problems come up (for me) with 2 authored movies (so far i have 20+). This is VERY odd... VERY odd.... I wish i could try a DVD-RW but i only have a DVD-R/RAM... Maybe i should just try the apple dvd-r's... $5 bucks!! heh heh heh

[freebee22]

well guys, this is what I have found out, I don't know if anybody can try this...I tried burning the movie to the same type of media that Iam having problems with skipping, freezing and pixelation on playback with a standalone dvd player and plays fine on my computer. This time instead of using NERO to burn it , I used GEAR DVD PRO to burn it and guess what .... Iam not having those problems now......

So I guess is not only the media that needs to be taken a look at but also the software to burn it .....

If somebody try it , can you plz post your result ..

thanks

[IremainAMisterE]

Well when i had the problems with Memorex DVR-R's, i was using Nero to burn. Since then, i have been using RecordNow MAX and i have absolutely no problems.
Maybe Nero was the problem? But i heard that some media have problems burning towards the outer layer of the disk. I guess you just gotta be careful with your media choices.
I also heard that Nero doesn't make compliant DVD's, which is why some people have jumped to alternate programs other than Nero.

[Robert Simandl]

Apparently the problem is some sort of combination of substandard media and how tolerant each player is.

I have the same problems with Memorex DVD-R's in my Toshiba SD-K710 and Toshiba SD-K700. Have them even worse with VivaStar DVD-R's from tigerdirect.com. Exchanging the players (gotta love Costco's return policy) didn't help.

Those same discs play fine in my friend's Toshiba SD-K610. No problems. What's really maddening is, his player is a lower end model in the same prodict line as mine!

BTW, DigitalMedia DVD-R's from Circuit City also have those problems, not only at the end, but in the middle and at the beginning, too! Definitely the worst of the bunch.

Right now I'm trying Optodisc DVD-R's from shop4tech.com. Done four so far and (knock on wood), no problems yet. Even on the one that took 4.2 gigs.

[mazinz]

ok SUCCESS!!! I dl'ed another software (record it now max) and tried the same film again with another dvd from the 10 pack. it burned flawlessly. So it still leaves with with this

1. did i indeed get a hold of 3 faulty disc and now i have one that worked
2. Was it something to do with nero that caused the problem

[Foles001]

I think it is defiantly the recording program. I guess Nero and Instant VOB are not very trust worthy (w/ Memorex and TDK at least). I think I'm going to use Record NOW Max (which is a later version of prassi primodvd because it is made by the same company). Here is another question ... if you were to burn using Nero and maybe a Pioneer DVD-R or an Apple would you get the same result (skipping on playback). That would be the ultimate test to see if it actually is the program causing the problems. For now if you want a flawless copy and you have a Memorex or TDK do not use Instant VOB or Nero!! Thanks so much for the input guys. I thought I was the only one w/ this problem.

[rsuave5]

i sell bootleg concerts on dvd and i use only memorex dvd r. i have sold over 200 of these and i have yet to get a reject not one coaster!! thats right not one! ive tried other media and most had compatability issues or errors after hours of work!! memorex jams and mister e was duped by a 17 year old dvd expert i also dont burn dvds with nero just copy them with great results

[mazinz]

well dont back off nero, again i have made close to 70 plus dvds with nero and this is the first time i had ever had a problem

[IremainAMisterE]

ROTFL @ rsuave5.....Hahahaha O-K brovah!

[igornt]

Well. I use only Pioneer DVD-Rs (burnt about 20 of those), DVRA03, and a SONY DVD player. I burn discs with Prassi Primo DVD. Until recently have had no problem at all. However, my three last discs skip starting from the beginning of the movie all way through. Who, do you think, is to blame in my case? Thanks.

[mazinz]

IT'S THE DISCS!!! Not the software!!!!
i just picked up the panasonic dvd recorder (dmr-hs2, with built in HD). Anyway i made a disc last night with the last rmeaining disc from that 10 pack and i got the same problem towards the end (skip/gltich).

so this means that possibly memorex and tdk dvds are made at the same plant, or usually when defectives do go out, they go out in bulk, meaning all dvd-r's from this date to this date were devective. it could be that most of us picked up these disc. I bought another 10 pack yesturday (best buy is where i get them) and i am burning a disc now (in the panasonic). if it does it again, im bringing them back and letting memeorex know on Monday. this also means i will have to try another brand, has anyone had any experience with verbatim dvd-r's?? I have used their cds in the past and those were fine

[Robert Simandl]

IT'S THE DISCS!!! Not the software!!!!

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this also means i will have to try another brand, has anyone had any experience with verbatim dvd-r's?? I have used their cds in the past and those were fine

Haven't tried Verbatim, but Optodisc DVD-R's from shop4tech.com are working great for me so far (8 discs and counting).

[igornt]

OK, I could understand Memorex, I could understand TDK. But Pioneer DVD-Rs? Out of 10 disks in the box, 5 turned out to be crap! Expensive crap! Each disk skips and freezes every minute.
I have 5 Verbatum. All of them got burned OK.

[mazinz]

so far the verbatims i picked up work fine. it looks like i might then switch to them from memorex

[freebee22]

mazinz,igornt,Robert Simandl can you tell us what burning software did you guys used that have this skipping..

I just think that the companies who are manufacturing this disc are using a different dye and it is causing the burning software to do this....


thanks

[anaboland]

Over a period of time i've burnt dozens of movies for my friends
and i've used various types by various manufactures in an attempt to find the holy grail of DVD-r.

my conclusion so far is that it DONT yet exist, the problems seem to be down to the combination of player ,and dvd-r media used.

i can burn a movie on one make of dvdr which playes fine on 8/10 players
but jumps on the other 2, then the same movie burnt onto another make dvdr plays fine on a different selection of the same players .

i've even had it that two of my friends have the same Sampo player and the one will play a movie and jump, but the other one plays it fine,
the same happens with two identical Sony players ???

the media i've had least come backs with have been FWS gen3, 3 problems out of 50 discs burnt but they played fine on other friends players, and Datasafe Classic gen 3 discs.

i guess if your burning backups for yourself find a make of dvdr that works well and stick to it. and if burning for other people expect some compatability problems along the way.

reminds me of the problems with the first cd-r several years back,
things will get sorted eventually

[mazinz]

the software i use to burn was nero. in the past i have burned close to if not more then 70 dvds with nero a good 95% of them were memorex disc. I NEVER had a problem with them till now and even then some out of the 10 pack were ok. the defective disc was proven even further when i used one in the pansonic dvd homedeck recorder and got the same gltich, skip towards the end that occured on the pc.

i bought another 10 pack this friday also from bestbuy, first disc tried same problem i brought them back and tried verbatim and they work fine.
I really do not think the software has much to do with it. it is highly possible that a group of defecitves were shipped out from one date to another and its also quite possible a bulk of them ended up were i am buying them, things like this do happen often.

i will wait a few months and try the memorex again, if the same problem occurs it might be safe to say they changed the plant or dye of the disc and this could account for the new problem.

[MAXBOOST]

Dear all,

Was having exactly the same problem using BULKPAK & TRAXDATA DVDR and burning with latest NERO.

Friend mentioned about having a clean H/D and setting writer as MASTER, so i reformated P.C and put PIONEER 104 on own IDE and since then have had very few problems.

In last 3 weeks have burnt near to 200 discs.

This said, there is definately an argument on DVD PLAYER compatability.

[Robert Simandl]

mazinz,igornt,Robert Simandl can you tell us what burning software did you guys used that have this skipping..

I just think that the companies who are manufacturing this disc are using a different dye and it is causing the burning software to do this....


thanks

I've had the skipping on Memorex and VivaStar DVD-R's burnt on my DVR-104 burner and played on my Toshiba SD-K700 *and* SD-K710 players. Oddly, the same discs play fine in my friend's Toshiba SD-K610, a lower end unit in the same product line. The bigger the disc image (as in more gigabytes), the more the skipping.

Software used to burn them has been Ulead DVD MovieFactory, Ulead DVD Workshop, and Dazzle DVD Complete. Memorex and VivaStar DVD-R's I've burned with all three programs have skipped and locked up.

The last week or so I've been using OptoDisc DVD-R's with DVD Complete and so far, so good.

In my case it's definitely been the discs making the difference, not the authoring software. The fact that my discs that screw up in *both* my players play fine in my friend's machine is still a mystery, however.

[igornt]

mazinz,igornt,Robert Simandl can you tell us what burning software did you guys used that have this skipping..

I just think that the companies who are manufacturing this disc are using a different dye and it is causing the burning software to do this....


thanks

I have been using Prassi Primo DVD from the very beginning till now (over a year already) and, as I have mentioned, never had any problem before. It is definitely media. So we cannot trust even Pioneer now!? I will try to switch to Verbatim now.

[Robert Simandl]

Oops, just had my first Optodisc skip. Disc image was about 4 GB, 91 minute movie, picture and sound both froze at the 59 minute mark for about 5 seconds, then picked up again. Damn, thought I'd had this thing licked.

[Robert Simandl]

Oh now THIS is interesting.....

I was at my local Costco today and guess what?

Their Toshiba SD-K710 display model was skipping just like mine's been doing on Memorex, VivaStar, and Optodisc DVD-R's!

Only thing is, the display wasn't playing a DVD-R, it was playing a studio DVD (Shrek, to be specific)....

Seems my particular problem might be player-related as well as disc-related.....

[swdefdvd]

I only use Pioneer or TDK (which incidentally, Apple use for their branded DVD-R's). I also swear by NERO but make sure you get the newest version as they are improving their DVD compatability with every release

[mazinz]

i thought i had it beat too using verbetim but i found another problem. it will play fine then at some point during play it will have trouble reading the disc. if i clean the machine, etc and do everything else it still has trouble on the same exact part, i can skip past it and its fine.

So i was looking at the verbetim disc and notcied they are pretty thin and you can really see through them when holding them up to the light (memorex are thicker), usually disc like that are not the best made. So i was thinking that maybe the disc is a little too light (as in see through wise not weight), so i put one of the cd blank labels on the disc making it a bit darker and it played through fine. Either way i am going to return them as im not going to put lables on every dvd i make. I think this time i will get store credit and just wait a while.

has anyone tried maxells dvd-rs???

[igornt]

Anyone tried the new double-sided 9 gigs DVD-Rs? I wonder how good they are...