should i be getting faster ripping times?

[REDi]

I just upgraded from a 1gig tbird to an xp 1600+, anyway I just encoded a 108min flick, and it took 7 hours. this is using dvd2svcd with 4 pass vbr using cinema craft encoder, dvd is pioneer 16x. I was getting the same time using my old tbird. does this sound about right? or coudl i get this faster?

[Jam_Bo]

Hi,

yes, switch down to 2PassVBR. The result you get is quite similar to 4PassVBR.
btw. you can increase your system speed by usin DDR-Ram Bars (well you won't do this until now)

Greetz
Jam_Bo

[donalo]

An AMD XP 1600+ is still only 1.4ghz so the speed increase wouldn't be that much over your 1ghz chip. 108 mins is quite long for a movie so I'd say 7 hours all in was pretty good.

[Movman]

I needed five hours for copying a 102 min movie. All settings high quality.
But I use TMPEG 2 pass vbr.
I got an 2.2 Ghz P4 with 512 DDR 266 and SIS 645 DX chipset.

But you have to matter that CCE is much faster than TMpeg.
But I normaly use CQ its much faster and brings nearly the same quality like 2 pass vbr.

[REDi]

DDR ram bars? What's that? you referring to ddr ram over sdr?

[wulf109]

Changeing ram will not increase encodeing speed. Video encodeing is cpu and hd intensive. I have an XP1600 and it takes about 4x time to encode in Tmpeg 2passVBR. A 45 minute encode taking about 3 hours. My Duron 1Ghz takes about 6x to encode. Make sure you have DMA turned on for your HD.

[Digifreak]

I wouldn't jump to that conclusion. My machine at home is a 1.6 P4 with PC2100 DDR RAM and it encodes SVCD about 50% faster than my machine at work, a 1.6 P4 with PC133 SDRAM. What else could explain that?

[wulf109]

There are two different 1600 P4's 512 or 256?,what's the speed of the HD.7200 or 5400? Is DMA on or off? Many things will effect encodeing but ram is not one of them. I've run the same XP1600 with DDR and SDRAM.128,256 MB's. No difference in encodeing speed was noticed by changeing the ram. It's only my expierence but I will repeat ram does not effect vidoe encodeing speed.

[REDi]

Yup, that's why i stuck wiht my pc133 ram. i already had 384, so it made more sense to top it off to 512 rather than go out and spend around $200 (cdn) on 512 ddr. I've got a WD 8meg cache 80gig drive that i'm using, and yeah i have dma 100 enabled. so i guess my times are fine

[pimp80]

redi your time sounds about rite I have an 1700XP and i get roughly around your same time. A better way to check if your speeds are on par is probably to quote your cce speed. I get a cce speed of 1.452.
Also your probably aware of this but by doin 4 passes ur actually doing 5 passes and ive read that there isnt much difference in terms of quality between 4 and 5. hope this helps.

[REDi]

so how many passes should i be using? is 4pass vbr best quality? I don't mind my comp taking more time to encode if i'm gonna get the best quality outta it. If I move down from 4 is there any difference in quality?

[Digifreak]

With 60 min SVCD video per disc, 2 pass CCE gives occasional macroblocks on high motion. I use 4 pass with no macros on 60 min. discs. I can squeeze 100 min. per disc with no macroblocks with 6 pass, but contrasting edges get bleedover (like an overcompressed JPG picture). Beyond that I have noticed no difference. Setting my image quality priority down to 10 gives me better bit distribution when pushing 60 min. + per disc. though default gives good results under 60 min. In my opinion, 4 pass is well worth the wait.

[REDi]

ok 4 pass it is. you fit 60mins of svcd on one cd?? What settings are you using in dvd2svcd? I'm currently averaging around 45mins per disc (80min cdrs).

[Digifreak]

On the DVD2SVCD "Bitrate" tab you could set it as follows:

0-60 1 cd 800
60-120 1 cd 800
120-180 1 cd 800

Audio at 224 kbps and Encoder(CCE) Image Quality Priority 10 4 pass gives pretty acceptable results. If you really want to push it try this:

0-100 min 1 cd 800, audio 128kbps, 5 or 10 image quality priority, 6 pass. With this much on 1 disc I'd recommend under "Frameserver" tab "edit avisynth script file" "edit when dvd2avi is done" to change resolution from 480x480(SVCD) to 352x480(CVD). This allows more bits to improve quality without a noticeable loss in resolution. This is extreme, but it plays on almost any SVCD player and most of my family and friends are quite happy with it while saving me boxes, labels, and discs. I just got done with "40 days and 40 nights" around 103 minutes of video on 1 disc, 128 audio 6 pass, 352x480 resolution and by god it doesn't look/sound too bad and plays on my player(DVD2SVCD defaults min. bitrate to 300 so it doesn't cause playback problems). Tinker and decide what makes you happy.

[REDi]

redi your time sounds about rite I have an 1700XP and i get roughly around your same time. A better way to check if your speeds are on par is probably to quote your cce speed. I get a cce speed of 1.452.
Also your probably aware of this but by doin 4 passes ur actually doing 5 passes and ive read that there isnt much difference in terms of quality between 4 and 5. hope this helps.

my speed seems to hover around the 1.31 mark. I'm gonna try raising my FSB to see what kinda speeds I can get with a faster clockspeed.

[REDi]

On the DVD2SVCD "Bitrate" tab you could set it as follows:

0-60 1 cd 800
60-120 1 cd 800
120-180 1 cd 800

Audio at 224 kbps and Encoder(CCE) Image Quality Priority 10 4 pass gives pretty acceptable results.

What exactly does image priority do?

[pimp80]

1.31 speeds sounds pretty good to me i dont think you can much faster than that for ur cpu tell me how u go but.
digifreak i didnt think u could get 60mins on a cd using svcd format

[Digifreak]

Redi, the CCE image priority works this way; the smaller the number, the more bits from the bitrate are allocated to the more complex scenes. This will improve motion scenes (no blocks) but degrades still scene quality(graininess, edge bleeding). CCE default is 40 I believe. Its a trade-off, 10 is a good avg. for me since I squeeze a lot of time on the discs and don't want any macroblocks. The graininess and bleeding tend to be less noticeable than macroblocks on a CRT like your television.

In my previous post, to fit 60 min per disc, I meant to say on the Bitrate settings:

0-60 1 cd 800
60-120 2 cds 800
120-180 3 cds 800

This basically will fit up to 60 min on 1 80 min cd, between 60-120 min. on 2 cds, 120-180 min. on 3 cds. The nice thing is DVD2SVCD maximizes the bitrate to EXACTLY fill each cd maximizing quality if the movie is between 60-120 or 120-180 giving you the best quality that will fit the number of discs you have chosen. If I were you, I would keep stretching out the amount of time you fit on each disc up until the point you find it unacceptable, everyone's limt varies.