DV to NTSC SVCD using 3:2 pulldown is jumpy - any advice?

[tonypro2]

I am trying to convert DV to NTSC SVCD using the 3:2 pulldown trick to increase video quality. I am using TMPGENC - I selected 23.9 fps with 3:2 pulldown on playback option. The DV is interlaced, 29.8 fps from a digital camcorder. Straight 29.8 fps conversion looks good, but the 3:2 pulldown version plays back with better quality but seems jerky or flickering. It hurt my eyes to watch it, and I had to go back to the normal straight conversion with the slightly less quality.

Does anyone have a step by step guide to how to use the 3:2 pulldown technique with DV to NTSC SVCD using TMPGenc? Is the flicker something you just live with to get the better quality? If so, then I prefer the straight conversion, as I am very sensitive to flicker.

[adam]

You can only store your video as ntscfilm (23.976fps) if it originated as that fps. I believe that some of the more expensive DV camcorders will let you record at 24fps. You could then convert this to ntscfilm and use the 3:2 pulldown. However most dv camcorders only record in pal or ntsc so an inverse telecine (conversion from 29.97fps to 23.976fps) is not possible. You just need to keep your movie at 29.97fps interlaced.

[vhelp]

tonypro2,

>> Does anyone have a step by step guide to how to use the 3:2 pulldown technique
>> with DV to NTSC SVCD using TMPGenc? Is the flicker something you just live with
>> to get the better quality? If so, then I prefer the straight conversion, as I
>> am very sensitive to flicker.
Absoluttely NOT!! You've missunderstood the whole 3:2 pulldown process, as I've
explained in another post/thread elsewhere, on a different date - couple days ago.

Anyways, DV is NOT film. DV is 30 frames (29.970) per second. That's it!
No Telecining/3:2pulldown can be done. Cause non was used!!
Again, DV is (for NTSC) is 30 frames. The 32 puddown is used for film that was
actually shot at 24 fps, and then telecined to 29.970 for TV viewing. When you
find a movie that was processed this way, you CAN reverse this process of
telecining 29.970 back to 24 (or 23.976) fps, but your DV is not film, and is
not shooting at 24 fps, rather it's shooting at 29.970 that is why you are
getting the jumppyness. Best to stick with 29.970 and encode using:
* interlace
* Interlace or (Inverse32 will work, at least on mine it does) and save a few
megabytes

If you had a PAL versoin DV cam, then you wouldn't have that problem, as it
would be videoing at 25 fps (I believe)
But, us unfortunate NTSC'ers, we don't have it that easy, unless they came out
w/ a multi FPS versoin DV cam, which I haven't heared of as of yet, and even
if it were in existance out their, you can count on it being pretty expensive.

-vhelp