Can I get more than 82 mins on a DVD ?

[bob haines]

I have a stack of VHS tapes and want to burn them onto DVD. They are old and are nowhere near DVD quality. Is it possibly to record them onto DVD at a lower quality rate and therefore get more minutes than usual on the DVD?

Many thanks

[resnullius]

all you need to do is use a lower bit rate or cq or vbr any of these should do the trick...

[Greg12]

Yes, try using DVD's Mpeg 1 spec

I believe it is 352x240
48,000 audio bitrate


Try to find a program that allows MPEG audio and doesn't change it PCM.

I know that alot of the progs change it to PCM but a few allow MPEG audio.

[bob haines]

Thanks for the answers.

If I encode a different format will it still play on a standalone DVD player ? Will it autorun etc ?

[Greg12]

Different format?

DVD supports 4 different resolutions.

I'm not exactly sure what they are, but it allows the use of MPeg 1 at VCD resolution.

[Stansell]

ULEAD Movie Factory (30 day demo available to try, only $50.00 to buy) will support MPEG audio.

One thing to keep in mind though is DVD audio has a 48 Khz sampling rate, so be sure to convert to the right audio format.

My suggestion is to use TMPGenc's latest version and try the DVD wizard. It will show you up front your encoding choices and how much you will fit on a DVD at the various rates and with either PCM or MPEG audio.

[kwag]

I have a stack of VHS tapes and want to burn them onto DVD. They are old and are nowhere near DVD quality. Is it possibly to record them onto DVD at a lower quality rate and therefore get more minutes than usual on the DVD?

Many thanks

Don't spend your money on DVD-R's for this.
Save your DVD-R's for DVD quality high resolution captures, etc.

Capture your VHS videos with VirtualDub at 352x480 and use the method explained here to encode:
http://www.kvcd.net

You'll be able to fit not 80, but 120 minutes ( or more ), in a single 80 minute CD-R and retain your VHS quality.

You'll have to Inverse Telecine your tapes to 23.976fps for best quality and compression.

Give it a try. You won't regret it.


kwag

[bob haines]

Thanks for that Kwag, I will go and have a look.

I have a 100hz tele which I have always found pixelates (!) (blocky) when trying VCDs, is this usual ? And does the 100hz tele make the situation worse?

Thanks again

[kwag]

Thanks for that Kwag, I will go and have a look.

I have a 100hz tele which I have always found pixelates (!) (blocky) when trying VCDs, is this usual ? And does the 100hz tele make the situation worse?

Thanks again

That shouldn't make a difference.

It depends on many factors. Quality of MPEG decoder in your DVD/VCD player, quality of your TV, type of TV ( CRT, Plasma, Rear Screen Proj., etc. ) size of screen, etc. And of course, the quality of your VCD

kwag

[bob haines]

Ok.

I generally use Premiere for editing adn have a Canopus box for Analog to firewire. I then have been using Ulead Moviefactory for blowing VCDs , do I have enough here to get a decent result ? I have looked at the long list of tools on your site and I am now unsure as to whether this newbie can get a good result with what he has ?

Any advice gratefully received (including what to say to the missus as to why I am spending another evening messing with video!!)

[kwag]

Ok.

I generally use Premiere for editing adn have a Canopus box for Analog to firewire. I then have been using Ulead Moviefactory for blowing VCDs , do I have enough here to get a decent result ? I have looked at the long list of tools on your site and I am now unsure as to whether this newbie can get a good result with what he has ?

Any advice gratefully received (including what to say to the missus as to why I am spending another evening messing with video!!)

Substitute your MovieFactory encoding with TMPGEnc 2.54. It blows away Ulead,as far as quality is concerned.

kwag

[bob haines]

Kwag, thanks for the advice, I have tried the TPMGEnc decoder and it works great, no more DVDs for me !

I was wondering if you can help me a bit further ?

When I edit an AVI in Premiere I am left with a project file not an AVI , which I obviously cannot decode witht he TPMG decoder. So I exported it as a movie adn decoded it within Premiere to a Microsoft DV AVI format , but this will not load into the TMPG decoder , it says it won't support file format, although it is an AVI ! There is another AVI call Microsoft AVI but this seems to want 3 hours to decode 2 mins of video. Any thoughts ?

The process works fien , I just need to be able to use it with edited video.

Many thanks again.