Adding subtitles to a VCD/SVCD movie?

[Pcslider]

I need ONLY ones who have managed to watch VCDs/SVCDs on their DVDs with subtitles to help me, cause i need to know that what they did actually works and is not just a theory.
Now, my question is: How can i add subtitles, which i download (usually .txt or .sub and so on), into my avi movies so i can than later on convert the movie into DVD comatible mpeg (normal converstion with TMPGenc) such as VCD and SVCD.
OR
How can i add subtitles into my already converted mpegs (VCDs/SVCDs) so i could play the movie in my DVD and have the subtitles OR have an option to choose the subtitles preffered.

Any help will be mostly appreciated. Thx in advanced.

[Truman]

Why do you believe that these subtitle guides are just a theory?

[Pcslider]

I wasnt saying that the guides are "theories" ... u should read more carefully. I was saying that i dont want guys who never did such a thing telling me how to do what they "think" should work.
I need someone who already managed to add subtitles into a SVCD/VCD movie successfuly.
Btw, i tried the tutorials but they arent very ez and i would like it very much if anyone's got a better/faster way.
Thx for the interest... not alot of people are helping me with this. I thought the pro's would help me quickly

[Shabubu]

Ok, to add the subs permanently you'll need to re-encode using avisynth sub method or something similar.

To have switchable subs may be a bit harder, you need to convert those text subs to pics with the appropriate config file and then mux them in (SVCD subs aren't text, they're pics). I think Maestro SBT may do it, or the built in subtitler in I-author. I don't actually know cause I've only used text subs in DivX films.

Good luck

[Pcslider]

1) I downloaded avisynth 1.05 and installed it. Its not a program, its a registery entry file. Now, after its installed how do i use it? plz explain a little more cause i could really just use 1 perm' subtitle and thats it, thx.

2) What is the appropriate config file (where is it?) and what program do i use to mux the subs with the movie. Submux? I got it, but im not sure how to work it, altho its not very complex... more nifo would be appreciated, thx again.

[Shabubu]

http://www.doom9.org/mpg/d2a-mpeg2dec.htm (also read the instructions at the homepage).

You'd do the subs with http://www.doom9.org/vobsub.htm. The DirectVobSub plugin can be used with avisynth.

Again I can't tell you exactly cause it's a nasty way of doing things (can't be avoided once the rips already been done). You'll just have to read up all the docs.

[Truman]

I tried to explain that stuff. If you are willing to read a guide (I am not sure), try this:

http://forum.vcdhelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=87065

[Pcslider]

I'll read all the links u gave me, thx. Hope ill manage to work something up.