Using subtitles from DVD on BR

[RoyGBiv-inRI]

I have the DVD of "The Quiet Man" and just got the BR of the same movie. Unfortunately, the BR movie has no subs. The DVD does. Is there a way to use the subs from the DVD for the BR? If so, can someone point me to a short tutorial on how I might do this? I am not a complete newbie but have not done this before. I have used DVD Fab and AnyDVD to rip discs to my computer and regularly use BDRebuilder and other programs to change their size or sometimes to other formats, so I have some experience working with discs.

TIA

SMK

[videobruger]

Your intentions is a bit unclear to me. How do you intend to play the BR+subtitle? Any encoding involded to get smaller size or is that not an issue?

Anyway if it was me I wouldn't use the subtitle from the DVD as is; that is in IDX/SUB format as those (IMO) are rather pixelated but perhaps first make an OCR in Subtitle Edit to get a textual format and perhaps make PGS if needed.

There is no guarantee that a DVD and a BR version of the same movie is identical (but probably are in this case) so I would also look at the net for BR subtitles. I would start here (In RI I take it that it's english subtitles).

But without knowing more of your intent I can't get it any closer.

[RoyGBiv-inRI]

Thanks. My plan is to make a new BR with the BR video and audio and DVD subs. I don't know anything about subtitle formats, and I do recall that the subs on the DVD didn't look great. I can live with that, though, as my wife is very hard of hearing and needs them (especially with the strong Irish accents, if you know the movie). It is an old movie and as far as I know nothing was changed in making the BR other than the image quality. Yes, I do need English subs. I will look at the site you mentioned and go from there.

SMK

[videobruger]

So I take it you'll burn a BR to be played in a BR stand-alone player.

You can use MakeMKV to turn your BR into a MKV file with the video/audio part kept unaltered.

You may find a subtitle you can use from the link I gave. It may need to be synchronized. Subtitle Edit can synchronize subtitles to be shown ealier/later or it can use Visual sync where you synchronize the first and last subtitles and then have all the others automatically sync'ed (In SE use Options -> Preferences -> Video Player -> select VLC if you have that installed. It'll avoid problems with codecs).

Then you can bring the MKV and subtitles into tsMuxer and select muxing to Blu-ray.

[Cornucopia]

Subs on DVD and subs on BD are not compatible. There are conversion programs you could use (pictureType1->pictureType2, pictureType->OCR->textType), but it is impossible to use them as-is.

Scott

[manono]

BDSup2Sub should be able to open the VobSubs (IDX/SUB) or SUP file from the DVD , upscale them to Blu-Ray size, and then export them as a Blu-Ray SUP file for use in tsMuxer as suggested by videobruger. As mentioned earlier, though, there's no guarantee they'll synch up with the Blu-Ray. Never know till you try.

[Cornucopia]

Remember: NTSC DVDs are 29.97fps (or 23.976, but really no different in overall time). Some BDs are those, but some are true 24fps. It's possible the source won't match the target, so you may have to adjust the subs' timescale.

Scott

[RoyGBiv-inRI]

Sounds like a lot of work and not a guarantee of getting something useable. I guess I'll just have to turn the volume way up when my wife and I watch the Quiet Man again.

Thanks for all the info.

SMK

[jman98]

I found the following subs with a simple search which claim to be synched for BluRay.

http://subscene.com/subtitles/the-quiet-man/english/702925

They're SRT format, which is a text format, so you'll need to either just rip the movie into MKV and add them to that or convert them to BD format and burn a new BD disc, but assuming they got synched correctly this would at least save you the trouble of having to get them from DVD and get them working. Do note that I don't own the movie and have no way to test them, so if they aren't really synced with your film, sorry.

[RoyGBiv-inRI]

Thanks. I'll give these a try.

SMK