SVCD one Disc

[MrDilemma]

I read a thread in this forum that you can reencode a svcd so that it will fit one one disc and it will be standard compliant. Somebody help me out.

[Sefy]

SVCD can be "standard" compliant in many ways, but the SVCD that is known as 480x(480 or 476) @ 2520kbps Bitrate and 16bit, 44.1khz, 224kbps Audio, will not fit into a single CD, you might beable to put upto 40min of movie, but no more then that.

All the miracles you see, are just SVCD using below the settings i've mentioned, and will not give you the same quality as a true Super VideoCD.

Lastly, each movie reacts diffrently to compression, so any SVCD on one CD will not apply to every movie out there., some might look good, others will look hurrible.

If you still insist on doing it, check out the 120min movie on a CD, that should help you out

[MrDilemma]

Thnx for the fast reply Sefy, but i have just one question......the 120 min SVCD on one disc template that is one this site............does it make a "Standard Compliant" SVCD?

[kinneera]

Yes, SVCD specifications allow for variable-bitrate encoding. Thus, a template that sets an average bitrate low enough to fit 120 min. of video onto one disc is technically "standards compliant", although the majority of viewers will not be at all satisfied with the quality.

[Sefy]

As mentioned, the SVCD standard is flexiable, however, that does not guarntee the playability on every DVD Player, I would strongly suggest you first use a CDRW to see if it accepts that format, some DVD Players are very stubborn and migh not be so kind to the flexibility.

[MrDilemma]

How is the quality? Is it worst than a svcd converted to a vcd? I am not too picky about quality. If it looks like a vcd from a dvd source then im fine.

[Sefy]

The quality differs from movie to movie, and it also depends on how much movie you will be putting into one CD, and how much bitrate you wiill be giving a certain resolution.

[MrDilemma]

Ok take for instance a 90 min dvd-rip in svcd form. If I use your temp Sefy for say for instance 91 min..........how would it look? On average.

[Sefy]

My Template will give you VCD quality, and some say sometimes better then VCD, but that would be your average quality, but do know, not all movies get the same amount of compression, some do and some don't, it's mostly a trial and error kinda thing.

[MrDilemma]

What about using Shizzon's temps? Have you tried them? For compliant SVCDs.

[Sefy]

I have not tried them, so I cannot comment on them, I prefer using VideoCD standard, cause I know it will play on everything, and I like it's quality, and it will even play on portable Video-CD Players.

[hitechjunkie]

i recently purchased an Apex standalone for my son and decided, FOR THE FIRST TIME, to try the TMPGEnc SVCD template with "What's The Worst That Could Happen" and was very surprised that the mpeg2 file was small enough for one disc. i then tried it again with another movie, "Don't Say A Word", and the mpeg2 file was even smaller!!!

"so, what's all the talk about 2-3 disc SVCDs?", i asked myself.

well, after closer investigation i discovered it was the quality setting of "50", with the encoding method of "CQ", that was creating these really small mpeg2 files. although both movies fit on one disc, there were visible signs of blocking (if u looked close enough) in the picture when played back and viewed on my 32" TV.

i played around a little more with the quality setting and have settled on "65" to produce, one disc SVCDs of movies which look pretty decent on playback. keep in mind that these SVCDs are encoded from 23.97fps, letterbox sources, with the borders clipped to reduce the image size, to a 23.97fps mpeg2 to minimize the number of frames/sec the bitrate/sec is averaged over, thus providing better video quality than a 29.97fps mpeg2 encode. the playback smoothness of 29.97fps is still achieved, though, thru the use of the "3:2 pulldown on playback" flag, but handled by the player. gotta love that SVCD...

[baker]

with cce you can put 60mins+ on one cd without loss of quailty especcially if it is widescreen

Baker

[hitechjunkie]

i heard that about CCE - three pass VBR, right?

[kevlar69]

What is CCE?

Kevlar69

[baker]

cce is an encoder.

And i use 1pass+vaf

Baker