Rebuilder 2in1 movies

[asiafan]

There are movies that include 2in1 on 1 disc like example Zohan theatrical and directors cut

is there possible way to compress such movies using only version which we want ? or rebuilder will reeconde both versions?

i know that i can remux theatrical or dc using TSmuxer and then reencode but i wana know both bersions have each 22 /23Gbs so both can be done without reecoding.

[fritzi93]

I get the impression you believe that both versions are there are the disc, each complete. And therefore each version, theatrical or director's is less than 25 GB.

That's almost certainly not so. Any elements common to both versions will be there only once. The disc structure will reference the relevant m2ts files for a version once it's selected from the top menu.

If you only want one version, extract it first, then re-encode with BDRB. Anyway, branched discs have always been iffy for BDRB.

[Kerry56]

I just got through with one of these. Using ClownBD to separate them into two movies, each one wound up being 25.2gb or so. And the original disc is about 44.6gb.

So Fritzi has it right. They share certain m2ts files.

All you can do is try it and see what size they are when separated.

[asiafan]

"that both versions are there are the disc" its only sentence that makes really any sense?


both versions have same menu and addons too? so we cant save both things Unless we reeconde full disk?

[Kerry56]

Both versions share extras and the menu, yes. They also share other sections of the movie that do not differ. Therefore, the size of each movie is unlikely to fit onto a single layer bd without being re-encoded. But it is possible.

If you are only using BD Rebuilder, it will re-encode both versions. So the best practice is to separate them before trying to use BD Rebuilder, check their size, and then use BD Rebuilder only if necessary. I did this by using ClownBD to find the mpls (playlist) for each movie, then used the specific mpls as input into ClownBD to extract each movie in turn.

[asiafan]

But does it mean u can secure whole content with menu addons [if they exists i still didnt checked content yet] AFTER separating theatrical version from DC?

[gonca]

You can do movie only by selecting the proper playlist, other movie only playlist. You can also do full disc with blanking to select which playlists you keep or don't keep.

[Kerry56]

What do you suggest using to blank items gonca? There used to be a hidden option in BD Rebuilder to blank streams, I think it was ENABLE_TEST=1 added to the ini file, but I've never used it, and that applies to m2ts files, not playlists. It isn't listed in the Hiddenopts text file anymore.

BDEdit or ClownBD Copier perhaps?

When I separated by playlist, I got main movie only. Which is fine for me, since I never keep menus. But asiafan seems to want the menu and extras.

I tried an experiment with the only movie I have that has two versions included on the disc (Alien). I compared the m2ts file list of the theatrical release mpls and the director's cut mpls and then deleted the m2ts files that were only in the theatrical release, but kept the shared files intact. This gave me a movie that was 13gb smaller than the original and the director's cut worked perfectly well. The menu also worked, except when trying to access anything related to the theatrical release. This experiment seems a bit crude and I have no idea if it will work well as a general rule.

[gonca]

It is ENABLE_TEST=1. It actually applies to playlists, because M2ts files can be shared across multiple playlists. I don't think that this one ever made it into the hiddenopts text file. This works with full disc.

[fritzi93]

Well, no harm in trying it. But again, BDRB sometimes has trouble with branching discs. And the hidden option for blanking is hidden for a reason, that reason being that jdobbs doesn't consider it to be reliable enough...yet.

Think about it though. The difference between the two versions is not going to be all that much. A few scenes perhaps. And if it's the longer version that's wanted, you may save no space at all.

Anyway, I'm with Kerry. I do main movie unless it's an episode disc. Getting rid of the junk, i.e. trailers, menus, and warning screens is why I back up my discs. Plus some discs are getting ridiculous as to load times. Dredd is a really bad one among recent releases.

[gonca]

I do movie-only as well. I never watch the extras anyway.

[asiafan]

When BD have no extras i dont touch such movie i just go for 4.7gb matroska.

Movie which i am trying to find correct playlist got dozens of files it will take me few hours to find 2 files responsible for proper version.

[gonca]

What decrypting software are you using? Which movie is it?

[fritzi93]

When BD have no extras i dont touch such movie i just go for 4.7gb matroska.

Movie which i am trying to find correct playlist got dozens of files it will take me few hours to find 2 files responsible for proper version.

Nah, Kerry gave you the answer in his first reply. Use Clown_BD while running a driver-level decrypter (like AnyDVDHD or DVDFabPasskey) in the background and it will show you the playlists, longest one first. It will automatically highlight the longest one, but you can select another one. I'd just rip both versions and save myself the aggravation. You can view them afterwards.

Or you can use BDinfo to find out the longest playlists. Then right click a playlist (mpls) file and view that version with MPCHC to see if it's the one you want.

[Kerry56]

To find the files that fit each of the playlists, open the movie with ClownBD. It will show you the playlists and the m2ts files in each one of those playlists.

How on earth did Fritzi beat me to the punch my one minute?

[fritzi93]

How on earth did Fritzi beat me to the punch my one minute?

You must be an even slower typer than me.

[asiafan]

ok then so what about such move?

remove all files that contain theartical files and leave only from DC? will it save menu? i saw that i have some extras there

LOL

[Kerry56]

I said it was a crude method. Which is why I mentioned ClownBD Copier or BDEdit earlier. ClownBD Copier is a finicky beast to use apparently and I've looked at BDEdit a few times. It is not a simple program, and there aren't any guides for what you want to do with it.

[gonca]

In BD_RB enable blanking. Then just blank the playlist that contains the theatrical release. NOTE that you will save very little,if any, space using it for this purpose. Normally there are NOT two different movies on the disc, just extra m2ts files to make up the directors, on extended, or unrated cut.

[Kerry56]

Adding ENABLE_TEST=1 to my ini file does not work to enable blanking in my copy of BD Rebuilder, Version 0.42.08. Right clicking on any of the listed m2ts files gives Preview, but Blank this item is greyed out. And these are NOT playlists. They are m2ts files.

Playlists on my Blu ray are numbered from 00001 through 00888. M2TS files in the Streams folder are numbered 00983 and above and it is these that show up in BD Rebuilder.

[gonca]

You can also use Movies and Menus in the mode section. If you are using Full Disc double clicking on the title should put you in edit mode. I don't believe that BD_RB allows the blanking of m2ts files directly, as some can be shared across multiple mpls files. You must actually blank the mpls file that applies to the item you wish to blank. In asiafan's case that would be the mpls for the theatrical cut.

[gonca]

@Kerry56
Time for me to eat a little crow, ketchup anyone?
BD_RB will allow you to blank the m2ts files directly in edit mode under full disc backup. The greyed out issue might be caused by a m2ts that is shared by multiple mpls files, not sure and crow is a little dry. To achieve this ENABLE_TEST=1 > Mode > Full Back up > double click on input name in stream window. Sorry about my previous goof earlier.

[Kerry56]

Ah, thanks for the tip to double click on the name of the movie. As I said earlier, this is not a feature I've tried in BD Rebuilder.

[gonca]

I rarely use it myself, hence the goof up. I prefer Movie-Only > MKV

[asiafan]

In BD_RB enable blanking. Then just blank the playlist that contains the theatrical release. NOTE that you will save very little,if any, space using it for this purpose. Normally there are NOT two different movies on the disc, just extra m2ts files to make up the directors, on extended, or unrated cut.

I will try your method


but u are very wrong when u r tellin that there are not two diffrent movies its one movie but 1 is shorter 2nd is longer
check Fearless with Jet Li diffrences between TC and DC

[gonca]

My Fearless disc has three versions, DC, UR, TC. The unrated and theatrical cuts are NOT two separate movies. The director's cut was authored completely differently, hence no English. I believe I said "normally" and you are picking two out of three versions on one disc to try and prove your point. If I wanted to waste some time I would look up a bunch of seamless branching movies, 2in1 as you call it. Not gonna waste my time, so do it however you wish.

[asiafan]

U are in Canada and fearless directors cut is for HK market but it contain english subtitles and its 1 movie only on that disc [HK version] diffrent than yours

http://www.yesasia.com/global/fearless-blu-ray-directors-cut-hong-kong-version/1012493...0-en/info.html

i personally own DVD version and watched that but when i read that there is DC i wasted mine time but for luck it was long time ago i will catch this movie again and will watch DC version .

btw ENABLE_TEST in rebuilder is working but when i used Clown it makes only movie even when i mark menu too just movie was demuxed.Whole content was under 25 so it will fill 25gb disk easly

i didnt knew that such option is available and i hate UR and DC and TC all in 3 too many movies was realased like that.

one of them LORT but i didnt liked any of them i dont like fantasy movies but i was reading that fans was forced to w8 for EC version few years .