I'd like to rip my blu ray collection to my pc

[jin37uk]

Hi, I'd like to rip my blu ray collection to my pc, and just have a few questions

1) First and foremost, I don't even have my blu ray reader yet I've been looking at a few, but am not sure which to get - am i best off just getting one with the fastest read speed? (was thinking of the LG CH10LS20...any good?)

2) I have terabytes of free hard drive space and a 5.1 speaker set up so am hoping to rip in high quality, with the DTS 5.1 audio. How many extra GB does the DTS audio take up?

3) Finally, how long does the entire process take per movie? I have an overclocked i7 at 3.6ghz, 6gb ddr3 running at about 1450mhz and a 4870x2 if that's any use lol, running windows 7 64bit

thanks

[redwudz]

You won't get many answers unless you provide a clear title that relates to your problem. Your title won't work. But I will change it this time. In the future use a better title.

Moderator redwudz


Other than that, you have several options. What I do is process the BDs through AnyDVD HD, then to RipBot to 2 pass 8GB MKV files. This takes about 6 hours on my 3.4GHz quad CPU computer. With your specs, maybe 5 hours. I do them overnight. The quality is quite good. BD Rebuilder is another option, and there are other methods, depending on what you want to use and the file size you want to end up with.

Concerning BD readers. In my experience, all work about the same. I have a faster BD ROM reader. It works at the same speed as my slower BD reader. Maybe just my experience, but no matter which reader, they will take a fair amount of time, usually less than an hour with any of them to read a BD to your HDD.

DTS audio takes up a lot of space. True-HD takes a couple of Gigabytes or more. But not many setups will play it. I use AC3 6.1 at 640Kb/s and it sounds fine to me. If your players can handle DTS, use it, but expect very much larger file sizes.

And welcome to our forums.

[jin37uk]

thanks for the reply and improving the title

I seem to be able to follow most the method, but what does it mean "to pass 2 8gb mkv files"? Size wise, I don't mind 20gb per movie, 25gb to 30gb at a push, the main thing is the visual quality and the dts audio. How would I ensure that the dts audio is ripped alongside the movie - would I need another program for this?

thanks

[wulf109]

BD Rebiulder might be a better choice since it can do full disk backups in addition to movie only. Since your willing to use 20-25Gb's I would chose BD25 mode and it will shrink to 22-23Gb's. You could in the future burn them to BD25's if you chose.
In it's Settings menu there's an option to keep HD audio for BD25's. You might also use HighSpeed BD25 encode mode. On my i7-920 running at 3.6Ghz it takes 2-2.5 hours to convert BD disk.

[jin37uk]

so would I need to use anydvd first, and then bd rebuilder? Or just bd rebuilder from the start?

[redwudz]

You would need to decrypt the BD disc first before you can do much of anything with it. There are only a handful of decrypters out there and AnyDVD HD is the most dependable.

Two pass encoding makes the first pass to assess the compressibility of the video file, then the second pass does the actual encoding. MKV is a container that can hold several audio and subtitle formats, besides the movie. But as wulf109 said, if you don't need small file sizes, BD Rebuilder may be the better choice, especially if you want the menus and extras.

[cal_tony]

You mentioned initially that you wanted to rip BDs to your pc hard disk and that size wasn't of that much importance. Since I have backed up my BR collection of about 50 movies something I thought about before I began the process was how I would use the backups. I copied mine to external hard disks so I wouldn't have to keep looking for my collection on different shelves or bookcases. I made up my mind that I would want to play these from the hard disk and I would use the new HD media players for this purpose. These media players are simple devices with few enhancements but they will play just about anything. I settled on converting them to MKVs (no menus, just movies). MakeMKV works very well. It is a ripper as well as a BR converter. It can rip and convert most BRs to MKV in between 20 to 50 min. The movies will be the same as the origionals ( no scaling down) but with MakeMKV you can eliminate all extraneous audios and extras if you want. You can also use the new version of DVDfab7. It will rip and convert BRs to a number of formats. If you want to play movies on your TV from your hard disk than HD Media players are the way to go and I think MKV is the format to use.

Tony

[jin37uk]

cheers for the replies,

redwutz:

You wrote about keeping the menus and formats - would this mean that the movie that i ripped to my HDD would not me 'movie file' (eg .mkv, .avi, .mpeg etc etc), but would in fact be a 'disc image'? -

unless there actually is way to include menus into standard video formats such as .mkv? (hope that makes sense)

cal_tony:

mkv format is interesting, I have a few movies in this format and the quality is nice - does the 'makemkv' program allow ripping of dts audio?

thanks again

[redwudz]

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redwutz:

You wrote about keeping the menus and formats - would this mean that the movie that i ripped to my HDD would not me 'movie file' (eg .mkv, .avi, .mpeg etc etc), but would in fact be a 'disc image'? -

unless there actually is way to include menus into standard video formats such as .mkv? (hope that makes sense)

If you rip the whole disc, then you would have the whole movie. I'm not sure if you remove extra video, extra audio formats and subs if the menus would still all work properly. But it you want to keep the DTS audio and the 1920 X 1080 HD video, and the extras, and just remove the AC3 audio, the lower definition video and some languages and subs, that won't make the file all that much smaller anyway. But it depends on the particular BD.

RipBot will just give you the main movie, high quality audio and subs. No menus. I'm not really familiar with BD Rebuilder, so I'm not really sure how it handles menus.

[fritzi93]

In BDRB, you can specify in settings which audio and subtitle streams to keep, and can limit each to one stream. If you choose "English", for example, it will keep only the first English audio stream and the first English subtitle stream. (Other audio streams are typically director's comments, etc., apart from streams in other languages). As an alternative, you can select/deselect whichever stream you wish in the input streams pane by clicking on it. You can even "force" subtitles by right-clicking on the stream and selecting "On". (This only works in movie-only mode).

In full-disc mode you *cannot* deselect titlesets, as distinct from streams.

Unless you're *quite certain* you won't want to burn to disc, I'd use BDRB as opposed to other alternatives. At any time, you can "rewrap" a BDRB re-encode to MKV with MakeMKV (or other app), and it will already be at the size you want. It's a bit harder going the other direction, i.e. authoring to Blu-Ray from the contents of an MKV, and forget the original menus doing it that way.

A MakeMKV rip will not convert the subtitles, ergo they won't display in many PC software media players, e.g. MPCHC. MakeMKV will rip the subs (*.pgs) but you can't use them. Dunno if this also holds true for hardware media players/servers like the WD Player. OTOH, HDConvertToX can take a BDRB encode and "rewrap" the audio/video/subs/chapters to MKV without re-encoding, so it's a quick process. It will automatically convert the subs, so an MKV made with HDConvertToX has subs that will display in MPCHC. I suppose RipBot can do the same. They're both front-ends for essentially the same tools.

Good luck.

[jin37uk]

thank you for your help I decided to give ripbot a go, all seems to be going well but I'm stuck on the audio part. My speakers are the logitech z5500, and so I want to keep high quality audio - which of the following would be the best to choose? I chose the highlited option, but don't know whether I should have chosen ac3 instead. Also, i left the flac box unticked - should i have ticked this?



Also, what is the best quality to save as? .mp4, .mkv, or avchd?

thanks