anyone seen AvP Requiem yet ?

[cyflyer]

Ok in the slice n' dice dept but they've made it so bloody dark that you really strain to understand what is going on during most scenes that are not shot outdoors ! Anyone else ?

[guns1inger]

Haven't watched it yet. The nicest thing I have read about it is that it might be the film that kills off the franchise (the reviewer wrote this as a good thing). AvP wasn't exactly art, and really bailed out in the end, and given the directorial heritage, and the lack of budget, my hopes aren't high.

Honestly, to do AvP justice requires a big budget and a director with no shame - Michael Bay - and it needs to be unrated.

Edit :

OK. Just tried to watch it. Made it through to the 56 minute mark before turning it off. It was a truly awful movie. No actors, no characters, no plot. It basically re-runs every death and half-cool shot from the previous Alien and Predator movies, slips in snippets of audio to try to tie it into the familial line, and produces, well, nothing at all to show for it.

I love Alien. Greatest haunted house movie in space ever made. And while the characters might not have been the strongest, the cast was first class and made them more than what was on the paper. The direction was A grade, the production design brilliant, and the movie became much more than the sum of it's parts. Aliens took this even further, and showed that great sequels could in fact be made. Again, great cast (real actors), strong story, great direction. Alien III was ill-fated, with too low a budget and too much studio interference. Had David Fincher been allowed to make the movie as written, it would have been much better than it was. As it stands, you no longer care about the characters, so the rest doesn't matter. Alien : Resurrection suffered from this even more, because you no longer cared about Ripley, who had guides the audience through all the preceding films.

I lover Predator. Made when John McTeirnan was the go-to guy for a grade action films. Again, not too heavy on charactisation, but carried by the weight of it's stars. It is a great example of how to pull off a simple premise in a way that makes even the critics have a good time. Predator II . . . . a noble failure. Trying to take the Aliens approach to sequels, this one was simply too ambitious for budget and technology of the time.

AvP: Requim has no characters at all beyond token cliches. Worse, nobody in it can act worth a damn, so you don't even like them as people. There is no plot, because the two main protagonists The aliens and the predators) have no personalities, and no motivation beyond carnage. Now, if the carnage had been bold, inventive and new, this might be enough justification to drag out the franchise for a new run. But as I stated earlier, what we actually get is simply a roll-call of the great deaths form all the preceding Alien and Predator films. There is not one new idea in this film at all. Not one. And worse, the direction is simply tick the box paint-by-numbers stuff. Have we seen an alien yet ? Tick. Have we seen a afce hugger ? Tick. Have we seen a predator ? Tick. Have we killed a human ? Tick. Have we established the ******* jock yet ? Tick. Have we killed the ******* jock yet ? Tick.

Sorry, but if being too dark was the only problem with this film, you might have a valid complaint. As it stands, the lack of lighting is a) the least of it's problems, and b) probably a blessing in disguise. No-one should ever have to pay full price for this movie. If you feel you must see it, wait until it hits the "Free to a good home" box at the local video store, then take it home and use it as a coaster. It is the closest to useful it will ever come.

[Hardcoreruss]

I thought the trailer of this looked great.

The movie, is toilet, 2/10.